Schumacher critical

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by MrZ

Wtf is a "stone"? I think my grandmother used to refer to her weight in those terms. Aren't we in 2015 now?

Most people in Australia still refer to their height in feet, how is that any different?

[Sioso]

What about tyres, metric, metric, imperial - 245/35/19
Then put in air with imperial measurement also - psi

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by MrZ

Wtf is a "stone"? I think my grandmother used to refer to her weight in those terms. Aren't we in 2015 now?

Well it is an English article where they still use pounds and stones for body weight.

You didn't comment on the fact that they also use '£' in their monetary system despite it being 2015

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Well it is an English article where they still use pounds and stones for body weight.

You didn't comment on the fact that they also use '£' in their monetary system despite it being 2015

And MPH for speed. The imperial "Ton" is far better than 100 clicks.

[Brodes]

Is this a thread about Schumacher or has it turned into a unit-conversion discussion?

[Syndrome]

http://www.christianpost.com/news/mi...-break-150324/

[Express]

I'm not sure how they get the headline 'F1 legend is improving' when the only quote in the article says 'he's still fighting'.

I hope it's true and I know miracles happen but if he still can't walk or talk the chances of a meaningful recovery doesn't look good.

[mik]

i visited someone in the brain injury rehab for some time years ago , , and some people there had the most terrible horrific injuries, if you saw them on the street you would say, not a hope in hell can that person still be alive , let alone talk and do stuff like the rest of us , but some do, the human body is an amazing thing , maybe one day Michael will just wake up and start talking as if nothing happened ..........hopefully that will be the case anyway.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by mik

i visited someone in the brain injury rehab for some time years ago , , and some people there had the most terrible horrific injuries, if you saw them on the street you would say, not a hope in hell can that person still be alive , let alone talk and do stuff like the rest of us , but some do, the human body is an amazing thing , maybe one day Michael will just wake up and start talking as if nothing happened ..........hopefully that will be the case anyway.

He has the best medical attention money can buy.

[asagaai]

Newspapers should be very careful reporting, and not raise false expectations and report things that may be hurtful to Schumis family.

As I said before, with traumatic brain injuries the major recovery is in the first 18 months, by 24 months what your state is unfortunately at that time is what your are likely to remain with.

I managed a portfolio of catastrophic motor / train/general injured people, brain injuries sometimes coupled with paraplegia and quadriplegia sometimes ventilated quads. By 2 years, you knew what you were facing in terms of permanent impairment and life management requirements with a catastrophic brain injured person.

Schumi is now in that cycle of lifetime care management, which would involve rostered 24 hour nursing staff, at least 1 nurse and 1 attendant carer at any one time to assist with transfers etc. This is what the best care is now engaged with- prevention of livedo and respiratory/urinary infections.

His wife wanting privacy is code for leave us alone to manage Schumi in privacy. I really feel for her and hope she gets strength from her kids.

The fact that it is reported that Schumi cries probably means that he still has cognitive recognition of his situation- awful, feel very sorry for him and his family.

Sorry for the voice of gloom, but it annoys me when sloppy reporting gives false hope. At this time the press and society should respect Schumi for what he achieved, and respect his wife and her wishes for privacy for her family to best manage their life from now on.

And Mik- I also truly hope that Schumi has some remarkable recovery- I truly do, but my experience of these injuries goes against that happening. I also agree about the human body and adaptability of humans, ie functioning with no legs etc, but the brain - 2 years in the litmus test....

[Beastie]

^ Well said.

[prydey]

more often than not, the media don't actually care about the person or situation they are writing about. they are just putting a headline out there designed to attract 'views'.

whilst deep down i do agree that it doesn't look good, i will forever hold out hope that he improves, until the day he dies. where there is life, there is hope.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by asagaai

The fact that it is reported that Schumi cries probably means that he still has cognitive recognition of his situation- awful, feel very sorry for him and his family.

If that is in fact true then that is sad beyond belief.

Schumacher was a very active man and I couldn’t believe for one minute he’d see any quality in this type of existence.

I for one would not wish to be aware the rest my life will be spent as a prisoner in a dead body.

[nstg8a]

A friend of mine had a nasty stroke recently, at the moment she is basically dead from the nose down. Completely reliant on machines to keep her alive.
Worst thing is she's reasonably conscious, but the only communication is by blinking her eyes.
Doctors are hopeful for a reasonably recovery as she has days where she can wiggle a finger
But they are few and far between.
I would not wish this life on my worst enemy, let alone a close friend or someone as accomplished as Michael Schumacher.
It's heart breaking to deal with, and I'm not even family, I cannot imagine what Michaels family are going through.

[Syndrome]

A couple of days ago it was two years since the accident.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

A couple of days ago it was two years since the accident.

Is that the only update? I was watching the news a few days ago with the scrolling headlines along the bottom and I caught the end of a headline that said something about Schumacher but never got the first bit.

Must have simply stated that it's been 2 years I guess.

[Feathers]

Chi Cheng from the Deftones made it 4 years in a similar state before his body gave up.
Chi's Wiki

[LG17]

As hard as it is, I believe that someone in this state should be allowed the dignity to pass peacefully and not be hooked up to machines to satisfy others.

[OzriderXR8]

Originally Posted by LG17

As hard as it is, I believe that someone in this state should be allowed the dignity to pass peacefully and not be hooked up to machines to satisfy others.

You would like to think that in his line of work the family had already agreed on a strategy if this sort of thing where to happen. Hopefully this is what he agreed too.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Is that the only update? I was watching the news a few days ago with the scrolling headlines along the bottom and I caught the end of a headline that said something about Schumacher but never got the first bit.

Must have simply stated that it's been 2 years I guess.

There'd been a few false reports of him walking around that coukd be related to what you saw

[Syndrome]

He is turning 47 today.

[mik]

Hopefully Michael gets a birthday wish.

[buggerlugs]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...6052c2c0d8de9a

[Kingsley]

Very sad.

[Syndrome]

The end is near.

[GTP-814]

I for one must admit I though he was getting better after the German newspaper report from last year & hadnt thought too much about him since - seeing that it would be a long road to recovery. But to now hear that he is still in a coma, I am even more saddened.

not a promising outcome...

[prydey]

its a nothing opinion piece, yet again. there is nothing factual to say he is still in a coma or isn't. that article just speculates that he is.

montezemolo reportedly said his condition is 'not good' but didn't elaborate. of course his condition is 'not good'! and then from those 2 words a whole article is penned.

[Express]

Ex-Ferrari chief Luca de Montezemolo said, “He was the most successful driver Ferrari ever had. He only suffered one accident in his entire career, in 1999, and it was our fault, not his. Unfortunately, a skiing accident ruined his life.”

Fate can be cruel.

[Yellow_Festiva]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/motor...WkA?li=AAgfLCP

Comment: We do not own Michael Schumacher

This weekend I had the good fortune to spend a Saturday at a racing circuit among like-minded motorsport fans.

In the humidity of the Sydney summer day, with a faintly soapy smell lingering in the air – perfume sprayed to mask the smell of the neighbouring tip – conversation invariably converged onto a single question.

“What’s happening with Michael Schumacher?”

On December 29, 2013, Formula One’s most successful ever driver hit his head on a rock while skiing in France. He was hospitalised and placed into an induced coma.

At the highs of his racing career and thereafter, Schumacher mercilessly defended his privacy. This has certainly been true of his family post-accident. Schumacher’s manager and his family’s spokeswoman, Sabine Kehm, has worked tirelessly to maintain that privacy when interest in the Schumachers had been at its highest.

Kehm slowly allowed the public to learn that Schumacher is no longer in a coma, that he was showing “moments of consciousness and awakening”, that he has been repatriated to the family home.

The drip-feeding of information radiated a calmness the media has not – from journalists attempting to impersonate intensive care doctors to news crews flying drones above the family home, the hysteria in the press would be enough for even the most public of personalities to want to shield themselves from the ugliness of the situation.

For this reason, Kehm has stressed that the only reputable updates on the seven-time world champion’s condition are those that come from her. Her statements to the press have been sparse and have stuck only to the very basic facts, presumably to limit the amount of speculative analysis possible in the press and to underscore the seriousness of the situation by refusing to embellish the facts to cause unfounded optimism.

The media, regardless, has filled the vacuum with updates from myriad sources. Some have been legitimate, such as Jean Todt, a close friend of the Schumacher family, who gave little more away than his unhappiness at seeing his former driver injured. Others have been totally bogus, namely German magazine Bunte, which quoted the ever-reliable “unnamed confidant” saying that Michael was walking and talking again.

While Kehm has denied the more spurious of such claims, particularly those of Bunte, which were immediately dispelled and branded “irresponsible”, all other updates, including the exaggerated reporting of former Ferrari president Luca Montezemolo’s “I have no good news” comment, have been left to float without official substantiation. Though they are therefore to be assumed false, it leaves a significant amount of noise in the discussion for fans to pick through.

It is undoubtedly because of this that Schumacher’s former manager, Willi Weber, demanded the family release an update to cut through the growing conjecture.

“I think Michael’s fans would be happy if they were given an honest message about his condition,” he said.

“It would also help the people with whom Michael worked all these years better cope with the situation.”

Emotionally it is difficult to begrudge Weber’s argument. As a childhood Schumacher fan, I sympathise with the many who want to know the current status of the sportsman they admired, if only to know what is not true.

But it isn’t our call to make – nor is it that of Willi Weber, Luca Montezemolo, or any other person on the periphery – because, despite the significant part Michael Schumacher may have played in our lives as Formula One fans, we do not own him.

Justifying the reporting of a high profile person’s private life is a difficult argument to make. While the public can ask for some level of personal transparency from elected officials, for example, it is harder to make an argument that fans have a right to demand the surrender of any level of privacy from athe;, who merely happen to be good at something we enjoy watching.

But in the case of Schumacher, there is no grey area in which justification can be argued.

Even before his accident, Schumacher was a retired driver. His accident was unrelated to his sport and therefore has no bearing on broader Formula One discourse. He has a history of separating his home and work life, rather than there being a precedent for over-sharing.

There is no justification for the reporting of speculation, and there is no justification for putting out any information that is not approved by Kehm. To suggest anything else is deeply disrespectful to a family that continues to struggle through a heart-wrenching situation.

So what is happening with Michael Schumacher?

He is recovering at home. He is no longer comatose. He is on a long and difficult road to rehabilitation, but one with no predetermined end or pace.

That is all we are entitled to know.

Better news to come perhaps?

[prydey]

one of the best articles i have read for a long time. Schumacher and family owe us nothing. we are not 'entitled' to know what is going on. those who are privy to that info will decide when and what, but otherwise we should just accept that he and his family just want to be left alone.

of course i would like to know how he is going, but its not my right to know.

bravo to the author.