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Old 12-03-2014, 09:38 AM   #1
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Twenty-five years ago, the World Wide Web was just an idea in a technical paper from an obscure, young computer scientist at a European physics lab.
That idea from Tim Berners-Lee at the CERN lab in Switzerland, outlining a way to easily access files on linked computers, paved the way for a global phenomenon that has touched the lives of billions of people.
He presented the paper on March 12, 1989, which history has marked as the birthday of the Web.
But the idea was so bold, it almost didn’t happen.
“There was a tremendous amount of hubris in the project at the beginning,” said Marc Weber, creator and curator of the Internet history program at the Computer History Museum in Silicon Valley.
“Tim Berners-Lee proposed it out of the blue, unrequested.”
At first, said Weber, the CERN colleagues “completely ignored the proposal.”
The US military began studying the idea of connected computer networks in the 1950s, and in 1969 launched Arpanet, the forerunner to the Internet. But the World Wide Web was just one of several ideas to connect the public.
Berners-Lee convinced CERN to adopt his system, demonstrating its usefulness by compiling a lab phone book into an online index.
A key aspect of the design put forward by Berners-Lee was that it worked across various computer operating systems. And it offered the ability to click on links to access files hosted on computers located elsewhere.
The Web was not a winner out of the gate. There were rival online services such as US-based CompuServe and France’s Minitel but they involved fees, while Berners-Lee’s system was free.
“It started as a real underdog; no one would have predicted the system would have succeeded,” Weber said.
The Gopher system owned by the University of Minnesota was beating the Web in the early 1990s.
Weber credited former US vice president Al Gore with helping the Web topple Gopher by getting government agencies in Washington to use the system.
The launch of the Whitehouse.gov website was seen as a huge stamp of approval for the Web.
In 1993, the Web system was released free into the public, while those behind Gopher started charging, according to Weber.
“Most people don’t realize that both the Web and the Internet had competitors,” Weber said.
“Had they lost the battles, we would still be going online, but it could certainly be different, a lot more top-down control like the walled garden at Facebook.”
Web competitors were online environments controlled by operators.
Under the Berners-Lee model, people were free to publish what they wished on Internet-linked computers.
Internet titans such as Google and Yahoo were built on helping people find pages of interest as the amount of information being hosted on servers exploded.
“At its birth, many of us were guilty of a lack of imagination and just didn’t see what the Web would do to the future,” Gartner analyst Michael McGuire told AFP.
“The personal computer changed the way we work, but is was the Web that disrupted and changed a lot of industries.”
The ability to freely access files on the Web has shaken traditional business models in music, film, news and more.
“The Internet pushes power to the edges,” said Jim Dempsey, vice president for public policy at the US-based Center for Democracy & Technology.
“Anybody can be a listener and anybody can be a publisher on the same network; there has never been anything like it.”
A powerful underlying tenet of the Web is that it is egalitarian and open, but those principles are under threat, according to Dempsey.
It remains to be seen whether the Web is hobbled with regulations and fragmented by governments walling off portions in countries.
“You will never stop the teenage kid from watching little snippets of cute cats,” Dempsey said.
“The trouble is you could limit the ability of people to criticize the government or make a tiered Internet in which it is harder for innovators, critics, or human rights activists to reach a global audience.”
Threats to a Web based on equality concern its creators, according to Weber.
While the Web unified the Internet decades ago, there is nothing “written in stone” saying it can’t fragment anew, the historian reasoned.
In the US, major Internet service providers have won the right to give some online traffic preferential treatment, and governments have shown willingness to invade online privacy or restrain Web freedom.
A big battle for the shape of the Web could be the effect of billions more people getting online with smartphones in parts of developing parts of the world.
“The Web is really only half built; it is not worldwide yet,” Weber said.
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Old 12-03-2014, 02:35 PM   #2
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I thought 1969(ish?) in a USA University - or was that e-mail?
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Old 12-03-2014, 05:49 PM   #3
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I first started using mine on a daily basis since the late 90`s, the Interent that is, and havnt looked back since.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:27 PM   #5
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And we still have dialup and cat memes.
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Does any one know if pre 1970 (or probably 1960 when telemetry and satellite phone/tv transmissions became a reality), if anyone realised, or explained in a novel even, that the full knowledge of human endeavour would be available, quickly, on something like a mobile phone?
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:11 PM   #7
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25yrs hey! Seems like just yesterday I was waiting 3 mins for it to connect up (singing the bing, bing, bong, zzzzzzz tune) as it did it's thing and then waited 4mins for a photo of a cat to load, 2 mins for a page to load, 1 minute for it to half load...Ahh...those were the days!

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Happy birthday Internet!

Without you I wouldn't have been able to offend so many people in such a short amount of time.
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Old 13-03-2014, 05:18 AM   #9
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Internet is a lot older than 25 years. WWW is what's apparently 25 years old.

Had internet around 1986. Dial into a Unix box and run a remote session. Used to favor Gopher over WWW until SL/IP started and you could put your own machine on the net. Then you could run client side apps which helped the growth of WWW as Gopher as far as I can recall was still only text based.

IRC also predates WWW. Started on that when I went to Uni in ~1988. Several months later, asl was born. :\
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The internet is not 25 years old. It is the WWW protocol which is 25 years old. The internet was born on the 29 October 1969.
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OK - I have a best of Bathurst DVD set. What year did we see the first www mention....?
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I thought 1969(ish?) in a USA University - or was that e-mail?
Late '60's the US military developed the technology as a means of communication.
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The internet was created in 1823 by Professor P.S Hamwell in Norway on the 7th of july at 4:27am. Today he is trying to shutdown facebook with a calculator.
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OK - I have a best of Bathurst DVD set. What year did we see the first www mention....?
Answer: 1996.
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You thread mined to post that?

No. I was looking for something else and this thread appeared. As the question was never answered I thought I'd have a guess.
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And that marks 30 years for "Public" Internet now ... as it was a 5 year threadmine ....
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