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Microsoft is trying to fix what it got wrong with its radical makeover of Windows. It's making the operating system easier to navigate and enabling users to set up the software so it starts in a more familiar format designed for personal computers.
The revisions to Windows 8 will be released later this year. The free update, called Windows 8.1, represents Microsoft's concessions to long-time customers taken aback by the dramatic changes to an operating system that had become a staple in households and offices around the world during the past 20 years. Microsoft Corp. announced it plans for Windows 8.1 earlier this month. The first details about what will be included in the update are being provided in a Thursday post on Microsoft's website. The Redmond, Wash., company gave The Associated Press a glimpse at Windows 8.1 Wednesday. A more extensive tour of Windows 8.1 and several new applications built into the upgrade will be provided in San Francisco at a Microsoft conference for programmers scheduled to begin June 26. Advertisement With the release of Windows 8 seven months ago, Microsoft introduced a startup screen displaying applications in a mosaic of interactive tiles instead of static icons. The shift agitated many users who wanted the option to launch the operating system in a mode that resembled the old setup. That choice will be provided in Windows 8.1, although Microsoft isn't bringing back the start menu. That menu that could be found in the left-hand corner of a computer screen by clicking a Windows logo on all other versions of the operating system since 1995. The lack of a start button ranks among the biggest gripes about Windows 8. Microsoft is hoping to quiet the critics by allowing users start the operating system in a desktop design with an omnipresent Windows logo anchored in the lower left corner of the display screen. Users will also be able to ensure their favorite applications, including Word and Excel, appear in a horizontal task bar next to the Windows logo. The switch should ease the "cognitive dissonance" caused by Windows 8, said Antoine Leblond, who helps oversee the operating system's program management. Windows 8.1 will lean heavily on Microsoft's Bing search technology to simplify things. As with Windows 8, the search bar can found by pulling out a menu from the right side of a display screen. Rather than requiring a user to select a category, such as "files" or "apps," Windows 8.1 will make it possible to find just about anything available on the computer's hard drive or on the Web by just typing in a few words. For instance, a search for "Marilyn Monroe" might display biographical information about the late movie star pulled from the Web, a selection of photos and video and even songs she sang. Anyone who want to hear a particular song stored on the computer or play a specific game such as "Angry Birds" will just need to type a title into the search box to gain access within seconds. The redesigned search tool is meant to provide Windows 8.1 users with "pure power and instant entertainment," said Jensen Harris, Microsoft's director of user experience for the operating system. Applications also can be found by sorting them by letter or category. Other new features in Windows 8.1 include a built-in connection with Microsoft's online storage system, SkyDrive, to back up photos, music and program files; a lock-up screen that will display a slide show of a user's favorite pictures; larger and smaller interactive tiles than Windows 8 has; and a photo editor. In an effort to avoid any further confusion about the operating system, Windows 8.1 also will plant a tile clearly labeled "helps and tips" in the center of the startup screen. Microsoft made the dramatic overhaul to Windows in an attempt to expand the operating system's franchise beyond personal computers that rely on keyboards and mice to smartphones and tablet computers controlled by a touch or swipe of the finger. But Windows 8 has been widely panned as a disappointment, even though Microsoft says it has licensed more than 60 million copies so far. One major research firm, International Data Corp., blamed the redesigned operating system for worsening a decline in PC sales by confusing prospective buyers. Meanwhile, Windows 8 hasn't proven it's compelling enough to put a major dent in the popularity of Apple Inc.'s pioneering iPad or other tablets running on Google Inc.'s Android software. Microsoft, though, remains convinced that Windows 8 just needs a little fine tuning. "We feel good about the basic bets that we have made," Leblond said. It's crucial that Microsoft sets things right with Windows 8.1 because the outlook for the PC market keeps getting gloomier. IDC now expects PC shipments to fall by nearly 8 percent this year, worse than its previous forecast of a 1 percent dip. IDC also anticipates tablets will outsell laptop computers for the first time this year. The growing popularity of tablets is now being driven largely by less expensive devices with 7- and 8-inch display screens. Microsoft built Windows 8 to primarily to run on tablets with 10-inch to 12-inch screens, an oversight that Leblond said the company is addressing by ensuring Windows 8.1 works well on smaller devices. If Windows 8.1 doesn't stimulate more sales of PCs and tablets running on the operating system, it could escalate the pressure on Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. Although the company's revenue and earnings have steadily risen since Ballmer became CEO 13 years ago, Microsoft's stock performance has lagged other technology companies. Investors, though, appear to becoming more optimistic about Ballmer's strategy. Microsoft's stock has risen by 25 percent since Windows 8's release last October, outpacing the 17 percent gain in the Standard & Poor's 500 index during the same period. http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/bre...530-2nf6a.html
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Xp works just fine here
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XP2 was my last Windoze.....
Had a 10inch with 7 on it - crap. Now a full complete Linux convert, system loads, ready for use in 15.8 seconds.
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Bugs aside, a major problem with Windows 8 is that they tried to make an OS for PCs and mobile devices. As with XP and Vista, Windows 7 will remain the OS of choice for some time.
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The best way to fix all Windows problems, is install Apple OSX Mountain Lion on a Mac. After all, that's what Micro$oft are trying to replicate with Windows 8.
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Nothing wrong with windows 8, people just don't like change.
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I have W8 and once you get used to it its ok. Think a BIG smartfone !!!!!! that doesn't talk unless you Skype....
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Windows 8 and Server 2012 running fine here,
i don't mind the new Menu, in fact i actually work faster with the new UI then the older one!
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The changes they've mentioned for 8.1 are a good idea though, like the changes they made to server 2008 when r2 was released. Can't expect a perfect OS off the bat. And I love the linux fanboys...makes me laugh so hard. I guarantee you they spend more time ****farting around on their PC's getting stuff to work than most Mac/Windows users do.
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My 7 loads to desktop within 45 seconds without an SSD and I don't get compatibility issues at all.
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That's all fine and dandy until you want to upgrade or play games or do anything that Apple doesn't endorse.
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The only issue I have is ******* flash sites which occasionally crash or peg my CPU on 100%.
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I Absolutely HATE Apple Machines... Deal enough with them at work, the users are another breed lol... but I run a collection of Linux and VMs at home, so at a server level each is good for different reasons, but as a User Operating System Windows is a little more refined.
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The problem that I have heard with Windows 8 is that it's fine...for touch screen computers...people I know who have it on a "normal" PC or laptop say it's a bit of a pain to navigate.
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I'm Win XP here. It works fine, no reason to change.
I don't like the look of Win 8 at all. ![]() It's a tablet OS and that's all it should be |
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Like I said, people don't like change...but get used to it cos thats the way all user operating systems are heading.
Don't like the tile view? Click on Desktop...not that hard ![]()
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i agree. Using a laptop without touch is difficult. Instead, the slide from touch has been integrated into the pad, so if i slide my finger across to move the mouse icon, from the farthest left section of the pad, i slide to a different app page. Biggest pain in the butthole. I find closing apps difficult and easier to use the task manager. I use the desktop option all the time. May as well be using Windows 7... again.
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I really like Windows 7 so I see no need to go to Windows 8
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Microsoft and simplify in the same sentence just seems wrong...
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Windows 8 works great on Tablets. In the end that's what it's been primarily made for.
I use a Samsung Series 7 Slate which originally came pre-installed with Windows 7. Windows 7 on a tablet was difficult to use and just wasn't right. After upgrading to Windows 8, the tablet actually had a use to the point where it is my daily driver now when it comes to computing at home. Windows 8 on a desktop however... just isn't practical. Microsoft will need to try a lot harder if it wants businesses to continue using their software. |
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not tech savvy . had windows xp , that was great , had vista , that sucked , now have windows 7 , and that changes its mood all the time and tries new things . like automatically changing resolution and screen format , blocking sites that werent blocked before , and changing the main display screen format . hate it .
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Win 8 is fantastic... once you setup the 'Desktop' tile to autorun on startup so you don't have to deal with that godawful 'Metro' interface. Then, download a small program that pins a false 'windows' start button where it should be ;)
I'm not using it on tablets so I find the whole scrolling-with-mouse annoying. |
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I have 3 laptops at home - 2 running windows 8, and one windows 7. And just got rid of a PC running Windows XP. Since we mostly only use the browser with email and the occasional spreadsheet or document thrown in, any of the OS works fine for us.
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Microsoft is simplifying Windows? What, are they re-releasing 3.11..?
I am an avid MS Windows user & supporter, but Win8 has lost me. So ill stick with Win7 64. Hopefully the successor of 8 will prove better. But the Win9x platform will always be my weapon of choice. ![]() |
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win 8 has a good fast kernel that is easy on resources but has a terrible desktop UI. stardock do a little app called start 8 that brings back the old start menu that most users want with all the advantages of 8. I am still using 7 but have used this solution many times for customers with no complaints. I would be happy to see a decent competing OS but it just doesn't exist. linux is not overly user friendly for basic home users and doesn't have the same compatibility level of windows and apple is too tightly ties down with restrictions . if they don't want you to do something you are stuck. generally you can work around most windows restrictions / changes with simple apps or registry hacks
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