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Old 08-08-2014, 12:52 PM   #1
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So they lose hundreds of thousands on each car they build and sell - no profit - nada - nuthin.
Yet they have the balls to update and build more that go faster and harder ?? These guys are NUTS - I love it.

Wish Ford USA had the same balls for FOA. Minimal sales , no profit , GT goes like $%^& off a shovel.......stuff it - keep buiding em , the people want em. The Falceyron.......
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Are there any of these in Australia? How would they be serviced, or any of the supercars? I bet the cost of servicing would make Ford dealer services look cheap, maybe.
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Are there any of these in Australia? How would they be serviced,any of the supercars? I bet the cost of servicing would make Ford dealer services look cheap, maybe.
I reckon the cost of servicing would make a new GTF look cheap


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So they lose hundreds of thousands on each car they build and sell - no profit - nada - nuthin.
Yet they have the balls to update and build more that go faster and harder ?? These guys are NUTS - I love it.

Wish Ford USA had the same balls for FOA. Minimal sales , no profit , GT goes like $%^& off a shovel.......stuff it - keep buiding em , the people want em. The Falceyron.......
Two XR6T Motors or Two Coyote's in a well sorted chassis should be able to match a Veryon at a fraction of the cost though Can't stand the looks of the Veryon, looks like a Nissan GTR that has been on a Sumo wrestler diet..
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Two XR6T Motors or Two Coyote's, doubt it would make it far to heavy and big!, maybe 2 x GTR engines could do it
But your talking about beating an engineering Marvel that apparently Grandma could drive even though it is ugly. that I agree with.
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Two XR6T Motors or Two Coyote's in a well sorted chassis should be able to match a Veryon at a fraction of the cost though Can't stand the looks of the Veryon, looks like a Nissan GTR that has been on a Sumo wrestler diet..
If only it was that easy...
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Can't wait to see this next beast they make, I love the look of the Bugatti
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Lambo hits 427kph in 21 seconds in 1 mile.
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Lambo hits 427kph in 21 seconds in 1 mile.
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And how does this relate to the next Veyron?
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Lambo hits 427kph in 21 seconds in 1 mile.
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Unreal stuff.
One handed for a bit of the run too if ya don't mind!
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And how does this relate to the next Veyron?
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Love it.
Love the Veyron, I think it is a good looking vehicle, smaller than I thought it would have been.
It is an engineering marvel, it just goes to show what can be had with talent and $$.
The comments about adding multiple XR6T engines together to beat a Veyron are just laughable at best.
The Veyron has no competitor, Hennessy can build a faster car but it doesn't have the quality, the refinement nor the drive-ability that the Veyron has.
The Veyron is more than just speed, it is a whole experience, it is a car at the top of the automotive food chain, a car that can be driven each day, masking that insane power.

I applaud you all at Bugatti (thank you VW for taking the chance once again).
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Veyron is not about maximum acceleration - it is about maximum speed. A 20 year old McLaren F1 will out accelerate a Bugatti Veyron from a standing start.

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Love it.
The Veyron has no competitor, Hennessy can build a faster car but it doesn't have the quality, the refinement nor the drive-ability that the Veyron has.
The Veyron is more than just speed, it is a whole experience, it is a car at the top of the automotive food chain, a car that can be driven each day, masking that insane power.

I applaud you all at Bugatti (thank you VW for taking the chance once again).
Have you forgotten SSC?
http://www.sscnorthamerica.com/tuatara.php

Supercar that has all the creature comforts, and the most power to weight ratio ever.
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Have you forgotten SSC?
http://www.sscnorthamerica.com/tuatara.php

Supercar that has all the creature comforts, and the most power to weight ratio ever.
Doesn't look it has been tested to validate its claims.
I doubt it would have the quality of the Bugatti.
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^^^ There are others out there, even better the Koenigsegg Agera one to 1.
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Veyron is not about maximum acceleration - it is about maximum speed. A 20 year old McLaren F1 will out accelerate a Bugatti Veyron from a standing start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXqSedWSu2k
No it won't, Hammond later admitted that he let off to not embarrass the F1.

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Veyron running a 10.1 @ 139.4 on street tires, skip to 2:45 for the run.
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Doesn't look it has been tested to validate its claims.
I doubt it would have the quality of the Bugatti.
Neither has the 2016 Veryon??

Good assumption, have you sat in a Veyron, or a SSC?
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Neither has the 2016 Veryon??

Good assumption, have you sat in a Veyron, or a SSC?
But the current one has and is proven.

No, have you?
I have seen enough footage, enough documentaries, articles, etc to see the effort, the materials, engineering and the $$ put into the Veyron. The amount of R&D spent to ensure the car can meet the expectations set for speed AND everyday drive-ability I sincerely doubt others would do the same.

I am happy to be corrected, that the SSC is on par with a Veyron in terms of performance and refinement.

The Koenigsegg Agera 1:One is pure hyper car, built for one purpose, speed/performance and I don't doubt anything they say.
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Work is in progress.

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two electric turbochargers...!
VW engineers have been surfing ebay and fell for the oldest trick in the book.


This post was written in jest! please see it for what it is intended to be. No actual statement of fact or opinion was or is made or implied by making this frivolous statement.


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Seriously.. whats the point really it's not as if you will ever reach that speed. lol
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Any one of the supercars cars mentioned on this page would do me just fine.

I wouldn’t care less if someone told me it’s doesn’t have the highest top speed or the fastest acceleration as I doubt if anything someone said could ever wipe the smile off my face.
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I reckon if you feel the need for that much speed take up top fuel...
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What a stupid car, I am sure it will get its *** handed to it again by the BAC and Pagani on a track. When I think there is a purpose or a time and place I could realistically drive at 460km/h for 10-15 minutes, and that such experience is worth $1 million, I will start admiring the Veyron. If I were racing, I'd be going for a BAC or Pagani. I admire the McLaren F1 way more than the Veyron.
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Its like the Challanger Hellcat of the supercar scene...which is a good thing.
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People that say it will get its **** handed to it are missing the point.
It is the most refined super/hyper car there is.
If you go on the other forums where people own Pagani Zondas, The Agera R and these will tell you that it is such a different beast.
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People that say it will get its **** handed to it are missing the point.
It is the most refined super/hyper car there is.
If you go on the other forums where people own Pagani Zondas, The Agera R and these will tell you that it is such a different beast.

Some just don't get it. An engineering masterpiece which had no shortage of issues to overcome in it's design.

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