What Would Win?

TomXY · 14-07-2006, 10:48 PM

My mate has just bought an LC torana.4 door with a 202 red motor slightly worked, aussie 4 spd manual, LSD and leather interior for $3000!

My Question is
- Would this Torana beat my XY "250 1v pre crossflow which is slightly worked 'as well', with mild cam, extractors and 2" dual exhausts, 4 spd toploader and LSD"??????

I am hoping that his car will lose but just wont to make sure of it!

Cheers
Tom

BI6TIM · 14-07-2006, 10:57 PM

It will probably smash your xy.

Jock260 · 14-07-2006, 11:01 PM

its a preety close match, it basicly comes down to driver then mate

xbgs351 · 14-07-2006, 11:18 PM

Beat it at what?

TomXY · 14-07-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xbgs351

Beat it at what?

A straight line drag

Falcon_Phill · 14-07-2006, 11:53 PM

Anyone here can say what they want, it makes no difference. The only way to know for sure as you say, is to race him.

TomXY · 15-07-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

Anyone here can say what they want, it makes no difference. The only way to know for sure as you say, is to race him.

I plan on racing him very soon, just want to know what chance i have at winning?

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He rekons it will flog my "piece of **** Ford"! : :gren:

So i would like to know how good red motors are and how powerful they are?

GRNKPR · 15-07-2006, 01:28 AM

i hate saying this but the torrie might have ya

When i got my licence i had an XY 250 2v and my mate had an LJ and off the line he killed me and it took a bit to catch him but i did in the long run but might had a fair bit of work done to it ,power to weight Grasshopper

Scott · 15-07-2006, 01:44 AM

202 & 4spd in an 1080kg (from memory) car would chew you up.

**Falcon Coupe** · 15-07-2006, 02:50 AM

Race him on a chassis dyno

TomXY · 15-07-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GRNKPR

i hate saying this but the torrie might have ya

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

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1TUFFUTE · 15-07-2006, 11:10 AM

mad...sounds like the good old days to me. Sounds like u need to strip your car a little (weight

: ) and get a quicker diff maybe!!!

**Whoosha** · 15-07-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tomxy

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

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2 V head + tripple carbys + mo fo cam = bye bye torry...

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or sneek up to it and remove 2 spark plug leads

1TUFFUTE · 15-07-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoosha

2 V head + tripple carbys + mo fo cam = bye bye torry.... :Reverend:

trple carbys worked so well for the hemis didnt they....do it :thebirds:

16wantsI6 · 15-07-2006, 11:42 AM

yeah deffinately what he said 2V heads would get you started.

TomXY · 15-07-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoosha

2 V head + tripple carbys + mo fo cam = bye bye torry...

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Thats exactly what i have been thinking about for the last few months, i'm looking for a 2v head for a reasonable price, not too sure about triple carbys though, they would use to much fuel! :baby bott
And i've already got a mild cam.
Its got slightly bigger pistons (+ 0.030), dont think that would make too much difference though

Ryan · 15-07-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

Anyone here can say what they want, it makes no difference. The only way to know for sure as you say, is to race him.

Yep I agree.

Although, I reckon the Torrie may win.

The LCs-LJs, are pocket rockets.

My mate has a worked LJ 202, that munched a R32 GTST.

charles_wif_xf · 15-07-2006, 12:23 PM

Your mate has already lost: HE BOUGHT A TORANA!!!!!! Need I say more.

BI6TIM · 15-07-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tomxy

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

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It's not really about power, it's about weight. The Torana is a lot lighter than your xy and those red motors aren't too bad. A race is deffinately the only way to know for sure but I'll tell ya the torana will smash ya.

philstoj · 15-07-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Your mate has already lost: HE BOUGHT A TORANA!!!!!! Need I say more.

Your already saying too much... there are many sheet-box fords that i wouldnt drive compared to a torana.
And from your user name, you drive an xf and complain about a torana? :hihi:

XRQTOR · 15-07-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomxy

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

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Spend 8oo bucks and throw a 5o shot on your's.

Ryan · 15-07-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Your mate has already lost: HE BOUGHT A TORANA!!!!!! Need I say more.

Bathurst 72, 75, 76,78 and 79? :hihi:

Sorry, I'll behave now.

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AC/DC · 15-07-2006, 01:04 PM

The tornana will beat the falcon off the line, , but the falcon should be able to catch it !

The 202 was not a great bore / stroke to "work" The 179 and 186 was better....

Stick a Holley 500 on em, , bore the crap out of them, , work the head as much as possible, , stick a HUGE cam in it, , and it will run on Methanol !,, , , then you will see some action from a Red motor !

AC/DC

**Falcon Coupe** · 15-07-2006, 01:42 PM

Remeber 202 is the biggest engine that the LC came with, you should have a 351 to to be even, then he'd be

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BPXR6T · 15-07-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tomxy

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

:

Your gonna get cained. Red motors can be built damn quick. My bro in law sunk 10 grand into a 202 back in the late 80's earlier 90's in an effort to get 11's out of it. One of his mates had an insane wheel standing four door LC with 202.

I'd be looking at a turbo. Only a month or so ago I was reading in a car mag about a very sedate looking white XP Falcon complete with venetians running a 221ci with blow through turbo setup that does easy 12's.

CAMS290 · 15-07-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tomxy

Damn!!
What can i do to the 250 to be faster then him. Besides a V8????

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Put it in a Cortina.lol

charles_wif_xf · 16-07-2006, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

Your already saying too much... there are many sheet-box fords that i wouldnt drive compared to a torana.
And from your user name, you drive an xf and complain about a torana? :hihi:

Don't get me wrong there are some quick Torana's out there, I just can't stand the blasted things. In my opinion (puts flame jacket on) they deserve to be thrown on the same pile as Leyland P76's, Datto 120Y's, any Commonwhore prior to VR and anything Korean. But to each his own I suppose.

GRNKPR · 16-07-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

Your already saying too much... there are many sheet-box fords that i wouldnt drive compared to a torana.
And from your user name, you drive an xf and complain about a torana? :hihi:

here here i have driven and been in a lot of real quick torana s but very few quick

: XF s

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Full Spectrum · 16-07-2006, 03:47 AM

I was out tonight and a Torana came next to me at the light, Idle was ruff was shaking his car

He gave it a couple of revs and it was wet i was thinking WTF? Does he want to drag or something? In the rain. He took off like he was on ice

My Cousin had a LJ He got plates for it DragLJ. First he had a 202. Slightly worked cam heads done 14's. He then got a 308 got into the 13's. As he was working on his next engine and getting it tubbed he lost interest in it and sold it.

BI6TIM · 16-07-2006, 09:42 AM

If this race was to be fair the 250 would have to be in a TC cortina. Then there would be a competition to speak of. As it is now, there torana will wipe the floor with the falcon without a doubt.