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26-08-2013, 02:44 PM | #1 | |||
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Dead set... will be a game changer if it happens here!
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...816-2s1hk.html Quote:
A picture I took in Malta April 2011: 7 years of piece of mind motoring???? Would that finally make you change brands?
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26-08-2013, 04:20 PM | #3 | ||
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Give me 20 years. Still wouldn't buy one. Not a fan.
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26-08-2013, 04:42 PM | #4 | ||
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It will help sales in Australia, it reaffirms that it's a brand on the move and won't back down. Their product has changed significantly over the last five years, has a little,go,refinement wise.
I think it will be a success as less and less Australians buying new cars are concerned with the badge it carries. When in the US last year, the roads were choc full of Kia's!
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26-08-2013, 04:52 PM | #6 | ||
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Some of the new kias dont look half bad...
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26-08-2013, 07:13 PM | #7 | ||
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You're quite right, some of them look great. Kia's head of styling is Peter Schreyer, who learnt his trade for 25 years or so at Audi.
When Kia poach some talented engineers from a German maker, or from anywhere else really, who can actually make them steer and handle properly, then a Kia may be worth considering for a driving enthusiast. Until then they're just a pretty appliance. I wouldn't consider one if they came with a 20 year warranty with free fuel... |
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26-08-2013, 07:18 PM | #8 | ||
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Looks are one thing, driving dynamics are another - but then again that's an area where both Kia and Hyundai are lacking by comparison to some other marques.
Before anyone tries to claim I don't know what I'm on about, I have driven every model in the current Kia line up. |
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26-08-2013, 08:29 PM | #9 | ||
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26-08-2013, 08:38 PM | #10 | ||
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Driving dynamics to a petrol head is one thing, driving dynamics to Jane and Jose bloggs is something else.
We drove a veloster turbo, it was pleasant enough to drive certainly not an ST. But if you wanted a brand spanking new car, with a little poke, plenty of bels and whistles on a tight budget, it would do the trick. Oh a decent warranty as well.
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26-08-2013, 08:47 PM | #11 | ||
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I actually quite like the Optima, good looking four door sedan and is loaded with tech (i think, don't know enough about them). Dunno about the driving experience though as I have never been in one.
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26-08-2013, 08:49 PM | #12 | ||
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Ha ha brilliant said no ford fan ever.
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26-08-2013, 08:49 PM | #13 | ||
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If only they made something worth buying then it might be a damn good thing. But long warranties aren't exactly a massive selling point. It's nice to have but at the end of the day you don't drive a warranty do you?
Maybe they could start by making a car than has more power than a wound up rubber band. |
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26-08-2013, 09:20 PM | #14 | |||
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The average optima buyer is the same demographic that buys camrys and accords, and other 'appliance' cars. When I got my fg my final three I was choosing between was the fg, a ve ss and an ex demo optima. The optima really really impressed me. It drove really nice, sure its no racecar, but its not supposed to be. I just found it boring, although in hindsight I probably should have bought it lol. |
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26-08-2013, 09:39 PM | #15 | |||
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Because the rest of the modern range is pretty much useless.
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26-08-2013, 09:46 PM | #16 | |||
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It will definitely increase their sales..... |
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26-08-2013, 10:10 PM | #17 | ||
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I don't mind their Sorrento, especially the 2.2L diesel, that thing is amazing.
I'd buy one of those. |
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26-08-2013, 10:13 PM | #18 | ||
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How is it a 'game changer' (most over used term going around) when Mitsubishi had 10 year warranty years ago?
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26-08-2013, 10:18 PM | #19 | ||
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My wife has a Kia Optima Platinum and while its certainly no powerhouse it absolutely murders my GT for features. Sat Nav, power adjustable seats and mirrors, heated and cooled seats, panaromic roof are just a few of the features it has that the GT is lacking.
Been a great car so far and can even get from Sydney to Brisbane on one tank of fuel.
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26-08-2013, 10:20 PM | #20 | ||
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I believe Mitsu had a 10 year 'drive train' warranty.
A seven year bumper to bumper warranty is better and would impress me a lot more. |
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26-08-2013, 10:35 PM | #21 | ||
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That article is wrong. Its only unlimited for the first 3 years otherwise its up to 100,000miles (160,000km)
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26-08-2013, 10:56 PM | #22 | ||
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hope so! i just bought a kia, getting it in a month, maybe they will backdate the 7yr warranty?
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27-08-2013, 05:49 AM | #23 | |||
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28-08-2013, 09:52 AM | #24 | ||
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True, but at least this will give you 4 more years to keep pestering them..
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28-08-2013, 12:05 PM | #25 | |||
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Kia should go one up and offer a 7 year replacement guarantee on their disposable cars. Fix all the returned ones up and list them as factory seconds.. |
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28-08-2013, 12:07 PM | #26 | |||
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KIA have come along way in terms of build quality and the fact they can provide all the toys and gadgets as standard is a plus in my book. If they had a performance vehicle in their lineup I would certainly consider one!
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28-08-2013, 12:10 PM | #27 | ||
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Geez 7 years. Why would you bother with anything else if all you want is A to B transport?
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28-08-2013, 12:27 PM | #28 | |||
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Some only a few months out of warranty.... and that was a real challenge. Most repairs were sub standard and it is a poor reflection of the brand when 3 different people at the same dealer can say a problem is 1) A certain problem that is an obvious manufacture fault, 2) Normal sorry... 'characteristic' 3) A problem that I will need to pay for as it's 'wear and tear' when they and I know it really isn't. If anything, it may force the others to up their standard factory warranty. I really think that 5yrs / 160k km should be the norm now. It's really great when new cars have all this high tech mechanics, electronics and safety equipment installed.... what is really bad is when it fails or malfunctions well before it should and customers are out of pocket several thousands of dollars through no fault of their own. I don't believe that Korean cars are the be all and end all. Trust me, but perhaps Ford, and other brands can learn a thing or 2 from their growth in the market place over the last 10 years.
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28-08-2013, 12:31 PM | #29 | ||
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^ The problem is most likely the mechanics have no clue how any of that **** works so they can't diagnose it, especially DSG etc and there would probably be a lack of support with getting information out of Ford Europe.
Dealerships are only really interested in turning over lots of easy jobs, and if it was anything like Honda I worked at, if you turned over more than $10,000 in sales a day across the 5 days of the working week, everyone got bonus. |
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There is nothing really in the Kia range that I'm interested in (in this point in time), having said that, I'm curious if Hyundai will follow as there are a few cars in their range I would be happy to have in my garage.
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