Street Machine - FGX XR6T Sprint - we dove it & we like it

[Sorted]

[Dave R]

Interesting concept, reviewing a road car on the road. The fashionable thing would be to take it to a race track where a C-list racing driver can set hot laps and compare it to an SSV Redline to find the grand champion of doing things that 99% of owners will never do.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Interesting concept, reviewing a road car on the road. The fashionable thing would be to take it to a race track where a C-list racing driver can set hot laps and compare it to an SSV Redline to find the grand champion of doing things that 99% of owners will never do.

You forgot the bit about sticking it on a dyno and publishing figures for the internet experts to argue over

[Rodp]

Took a bloke's bloke to give it two thumbs up.

[STINKY NINJA]

When the healthiest of these stock xr6 sprints are running flat 12s or quicker ill agree its the fastest 4.0 turbo ever... till then ill reserve my judgement.
To say it will smoke any fg f6 is inaccurate.
Yes yes I know qm times aren't everything.
I still say the fg f6 is the king over everything.

[F6RCD]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Interesting concept, reviewing a road car on the road. The fashionable thing would be to take it to a race track where a C-list racing driver can set hot laps and compare it to an SSV Redline to find the grand champion of doing things that 99% of owners will never do.

How do you test the performance of a performance car? Ford guys seem to have no problem taking it to the drag strip but a race track is a no no?

[Rsmedley1234]

Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

When the healthiest of these stock xr6 sprints are running flat 12s or quicker ill agree its the fastest 4.0 turbo ever... till then ill reserve my judgement.
To say it will smoke any fg f6 is inaccurate.
Yes yes I know qm times aren't everything.
I still say the fg f6 is the king over everything.

Put it this way, I dragged my Uncles 6 Sprint in my G6E Turbo (just sold for xr6 Sprint due on 2weeks) and got utterly molested. Kept up with him till about 30kmph and then I was left waving bye bye, at 130 he had 3lengths

[nz13boy]

Originally Posted by Rsmedley1234

Put it this way, I dragged my Uncles 6 Sprint in my G6E Turbo (just sold for xr6 Sprint due on 2weeks) and got utterly molested. Kept up with him till about 30kmph and then I was left waving bye bye, at 130 he had 3lengths

Put it this way, a G6e isnt a F6.

[Sabantien]

Rubbish review.
He didn't even rub up against the plastics.

[Adamz Ghia]

This is so insignificant I'm almost embarrassed to post it, but don't they come with a black roof or is it an option?

[au2000]

Anyone got the link for the xr8?

[GO FURTHER]

I do agree with the reviewer when he says the Sprint "looks too tame" (in exterior appearance).

I think the F6 with its unique front grille and rear end treatment certainly looks tougher.

I also think the black "banana" "6" decal on the rear quarter looks very 1970's and should I dare say ... woggy.

[edchung2000]

Originally Posted by au2000

Anyone got the link for the xr8?

http://www.streetmachine.com.au/news...-and-the-ugly/

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by F6RCD

How do you test the performance of a performance car? Ford guys seem to have no problem taking it to the drag strip but a race track is a no no?

Race tracks are big no nos, in fact they are the work of the devil in car reviews. My opinion, of course. I'd prefer the reviewer's opinion be formed from driving on real roads, ie, where the cars are actually driven. The problem with race tracks is they simply do not represent the kinds of roads that people actually drive on. A great car on a smooth, wide, grippy race track may not be a great car on your favourite mountain road. This is precisely the reason Holden softened up the series II Redline. The series 1 was a great track car, but simply too firm on real roads. Flawed, uneven surfaces are the enemy of a series 1, they start to get very taily and misbehave. Monster rear sway bar and firm shocks will do that every time. It worked great on a race track though. Motor Trend noticed something similar recently- the '14 SS was appreciably quicker around Willow Springs than the '16 SS, yet the '16 was the better driver's car.

If we're strictly measuring performance, again circuits fall over because they're all different. A drag strip, however, is a universal measurement. I can expect to run in the same ballpark at any 1/4 mile drag strip that I visit. Circuits, not so much. Which circuit do we test on? A tight, technical circuit? A power circuit? If we compare an XR6 Sprint with an SS Redline on a circuit like Phillip Island, I can see the SS being in big trouble. On a tighter circuit like Wakefield Park or Marulan? The advantage tips in the SS' favour. Different tracks, different requirements. That's why racing cars are set up differently for each venue. Yet road cars are in a static state of engine and suspension tune. So while an SSV-R may be more competitive at one venue, the XR6/8 Sprint may have the edge at another. On top of that, how do we rate track work? A flying lap? How about 10 laps, flat chat. Which one can actually perform in a track environment? I think it would be foolish to judge the performance of a car based on a lap time from one particular track.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

This is so insignificant I'm almost embarrassed to post it, but don't they come with a black roof or is it an option?

I believe that only the XR8 Sprint comes with the black roof.

[au2000]

Thanks for that

[Express]

He didn’t mention he was sitting too high, it’s a wonder he didn’t get a nose bleed.

[Rsmedley1234]

Originally Posted by nz13boy

Put it this way, a G6e isnt a F6.

Put it this way, to 100 their times are identical

[Brian_H]

Originally Posted by Sorted

Funny, for a mag like Street Machine not to mention the XR6 370Kws overboost at all is strange!

[Brian_H]

Does anyone have the details, from the meeting with Justin last night or otherwise, about the "run-in" period of XR6? Like to know in what ways or by how much the XRTS is restricted during run-in and for how long.

[blackf6]

Credibility of a soggy sanga. Thanks for the lol's.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by BAXRSIX

I do agree with the reviewer when he says the Sprint "looks too tame" (in exterior appearance).

I think the F6 with its unique front grille and rear end treatment certainly looks tougher.

I also think the black "banana" "6" decal on the rear quarter looks very 1970's and should I dare say ... woggy.

The lead designer of the sprint program had a wog name. A couple of wogs made Falcon what if is, if I recall rightly the BA Xr6 was penned by a wog.

[blackf6]

Wogs built the whole country. Helped by spags. Nonna told me.

[Sabantien]

Don't you remember those tshirts? Wogs do it better.

[arronm]

Originally Posted by Brian_H

Funny, for a mag like Street Machine not to mention the XR6 370Kws overboost at all is strange!

At 276rwkw, it's no where near 370fwkw. I reckon this run in talk is a myth. What we need is a sprint owner who had 5000s or so to put theirs on the dyno and or take it down the 1/4 mile. With so many being sold were are they all. Let's see the numbers

I know if I had one it would have 1000ks in the first week and at least 3000-4000 in the first month Down the strip , on the dyno and then dropped off at the tuners for the Xtreme package. Hello to 400+ rwkw.

[mcnews]

What a load of amateurish crap. why did they bother

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

When the healthiest of these stock xr6 sprints are running flat 12s or quicker ill agree its the fastest 4.0 turbo ever... till then ill reserve my judgement.
To say it will smoke any fg f6 is inaccurate.
Yes yes I know qm times aren't everything.
I still say the fg f6 is the king over everything.

Well looks like your can un-reserve your judgement now

Stock FG-X XR6T Sprint was at AFF Drags last weekend and pulling mid-12s all day long on street tyres

The same FG F6's were on drag radials and did not best it

[chris0]

I'm not sure why the comparo's of the fgx sprint to previous model F6 and XR6T/G6ET..Can't we all just appreciate the best ever falcon was infact the last ever produced. And it was a turbo 6...maybe ford knew all along?

[zoomie]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Well looks like your can un-reserve your judgement now

Stock FG-X XR6T Sprint was at AFF Drags last weekend and pulling mid-12s all day long on street tyres

The same FG F6's were on drag radials and did not best it

The best i saw that smoke grey xr6s run at the aff drag wekend was a 12.94 with a 115mph trap speed.

Back in 2012 my then bog stock auto fgf6 (complete with stock 245 dunflop tyres) ran numerous 12.5-12.7 1/4 with trap speeds all around 115-116mph, all runs were done on both lanes but it was noted that the left lane at heathcote seemed better for launching.
Maybe the FG being a bit lighter than the FGX helped there who knows but i think the 2 cars are pretty damn close at the strip overall...

[Grom13]

Originally Posted by arronm

At 276rwkw, it's no where near 370fwkw. I reckon this run in talk is a myth. What we need is a sprint owner who had 5000s or so to put theirs on the dyno and or take it down the 1/4 mile. With so many being sold were are they all. Let's see the numbers

I know if I had one it would have 1000ks in the first week and at least 3000-4000 in the first month Down the strip , on the dyno and then dropped off at the tuners for the Xtreme package. Hello to 400+ rwkw.

Their all in the garage , under their $660 Sprint car covers!!