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Old 05-09-2012, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default Nissans new v8 supercar motor wtf.

How are we going to compete with that?

quad cam beast... aka new godzilla?

Are we going to be running pushrod old engines against that?, iam a bit confussed as i thought they all neeeded to run a generic engine.

I love nissan as i own a skyline but i cant see ford making a new motor like this?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/189282/n...to-fuel-sales/

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Old 05-09-2012, 08:51 AM   #2
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Just means ford and holden have to up their game!
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How are we going to compete with that?

quad cam beast... aka new godzilla?

Are we going to be running pushrod old engines against that?, iam a bit confussed as i thought they all neeeded to run a generic engine.

I love nissan as i own a skyline but i cant see ford making a new motor like this?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/189282/n...to-fuel-sales/
LOL.......The" old pushrod engine " is turning 9800 rpm with 2 valves per cylinder in NASCAR and making 870 hp from 5.9 litres.

What makes you think the japper is so much better????? No hairdryer on these...........LOL
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:04 AM   #5
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The story says the engine will be restricted to be on par with the old push rods in terms of power delivery.

"Nissan’s VK56DE engine, which has been modified by Kelly Racing to fit the ‘Car of The Future’ regulations, will become the only engine in the championship that has any real relevance to road cars. But despite its significantly more modern technology, it will be homologated to ensure that it has no advantage over its Ford and Holden rivals in power and torque output or the way in which it delivers it."

Car of the future.....not.

By the looks of the picture there is no variable valve timing? Is that not allowed in the car of the future rules?
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:29 AM   #6
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Default Re: Nissans new v8 supercar motor wtf.

Apologies - if this is a stupid question.

What body style are they basing their COTF on?
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:35 AM   #7
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Apologies - if this is a stupid question.

What body style are they basing their COTF on?
I think there going for the LONG GRAIN RICE body rather than the short grain
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:42 AM   #8
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Apologies - if this is a stupid question.

What body style are they basing their COTF on?
Probably this

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Repost....

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So we should be seeing this vehicle for sale in Aus relatively soon
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I think there going for the LONG GRAIN RICE body rather than the short grain
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Think Hey Hey might go over his head, lol
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I think this is the best thing to happen to main stream motor racing in Australia for some time, bring it on
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So we should be seeing this vehicle for sale in Aus relatively soon
Yes but the irony is that V8 engine won't be available in that car, only 4cyl and V6 FWD configuration
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Surely they will be running Infiniti's which do have V8's..this is all great news
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no, as ohzone said already it's an Altima.

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no, as ohzone said already it's an Altima.

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Well there you go..so that rule about the car needing to be sold in the configuration is gone out the window then. I look forward to seeing Volvo join soon too.
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Well there you go..so that rule about the car needing to be sold in the configuration is gone out the window then. I look forward to seeing Volvo join soon too.
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How are we going to compete with that?

quad cam beast... aka new godzilla?

Are we going to be running pushrod old engines against that?, iam a bit confussed as i thought they all neeeded to run a generic engine.

I love nissan as i own a skyline but i cant see ford making a new motor like this?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/189282/n...to-fuel-sales/
There's been long discussions about this in the motorsport section already.

Why do you think the other makes won't compete? The cars are built to PARODY, it isn't a manufacturer's technology battle like many people mysteriously believe V8SC is. The category will be an even more controlled formula next year with the new design cars, if it turns out the Nissan engines have a power advantage, they will reduce their power. It's simple.

As for you not seeing Ford doing a new motor, what about the Coyote? That motor is quad cam. Ford could use it as their new motor, although it won't be ready by next year as I've heard the current Ford teams will still be using the same motor.
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Well there you go..so that rule about the car needing to be sold in the configuration is gone out the window then. I look forward to seeing Volvo join soon too.
That rule has been gone for quite some time
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having a little extra power won't do it much good if the chassis isn't right.

give 'em a season or 2 to sort out the combo and let's see what happens. the good thing about the pushrod engines is they are a proven combo, till they are out testing who knows what can happen.
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yeah it's a weird situation but what can ya do
Well yeah not alot.

I was hoping that the theory would be that in order to race in V8SC's you need to sell a V8 car in Oz. That way we as a motoring society would then get more competition and better cars....all in theory of course.
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having a little extra power won't do it much good if the chassis isn't right.
Thing is though, all the chassis are going to be the same.
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The cars are built to PARODY, it isn't a manufacturer's technology battle like many people mysteriously believe V8SC is.
possibly you mean Parity. or maybe not...
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Thing is though, all the chassis are going to be the same.
that will help

if they finish mid-pack this year will be a good result, at the end of the season they can look back over all the data they have gained and work on it from there. be great to see a quad cam kicking *** against some of the push rod motors.
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Ford and Holden only have themselves to blame, they have been pulling out of V8 supercars bit by bit for years.

They lost me when they went generic down the middle anyway. Bring back production racing, and before people say we still have it, I mean with the best teams with the biggest sponsors and the best drivers so it would get the best coverage and the greatest support.

It is no accident that the large car segment started to lose traction in this country when we went to this current generic racing nonsense.

Car of the future pffft... just a fancy way of saying you will not be able buy anything like this in the future.

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I dont think that's new... but variable geometry twin turbochargers, variable camshaft timing, 100% varaible centre clutched AWD and state of the art DSG gearboxes are a bit newer than turning 2 valves at 9800rpm!.... all those modern tech's can be bought right now in one of Nissans road going cars.

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