2015 carsales.com.au Car of the Year winners:

csv8 · 12-11-2015, 08:19 PM

I know its been covered in Ford only winners but some interesting winners in the other categories..
2015 carsales.com.au Car of the Year winners:
Carsales Car of the Year 2015 — Tesla Model S
Best First Car — Skoda Fabia
Best City Car — Mazda CX-3
Best Family Car under $30,000 — Volkswagen Golf
Best Family Car over $30,000 — Mazda 6 Wagon
Best SUV under $50,000 — Mazda CX-5
Best SUV over $50,000 — Porsche Macan
Best Prestige Car under $100,000 — Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Best Prestige Car over $100,000 — Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class
Best Performance Car under $100,000 — Ford Fiesta ST EcoBoost
Best Performance Car over $100,000 — Porsche Cayman
Best Offroad 4x4 — Ford Ranger
Best Tradie vehicle — Ford Ranger
Best Green Car — Tesla Model S
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...he-year-100116

LyleXR8 · 12-11-2015, 10:07 PM

VW golf as a family car?

new2ford · 13-11-2015, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

VW golf as a family car?

Yes they screwed up - that should be the Skoda Octavia. Skoda make the family cars in VAG, VW basically makes single person/childless-couple cars.

Good to see the Fabia there as a recommended first car. It's really great, extremely comfortable and so much internal space for its size (like all their cars). Just hate VW's DSG gearbox but that's a personal thing.

Superb and Mondeo should have been the contenders for the best family car over $30k. Mazda has never been a leader in the space race.

Brazen · 13-11-2015, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by new2ford

Superb and Mondeo should have been the contenders for the best family car over $30k. Mazda has never been a leader in the space race.

Mondeo does not come with rear air con vents on the Ambiente (the only spec available as a petrol wagon)

40RDT · 13-11-2015, 07:35 AM

Hahaha best performance car up to 100k is a Fiesta???

**Polyal** · 13-11-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

VW golf as a family car?

Golf Wagon?

Wretched · 13-11-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

VW golf as a family car?

Why not?

**DJM83** · 13-11-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 40RDT

Hahaha best performance car up to 100k is a Fiesta???

There it is, was waiting for it.

**Polyal** · 13-11-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

There it is, was waiting for it.

Well really its a stretch...FiST is a weapon but in the sub 40k category perhaps.

Stefan · 13-11-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

VW golf as a family car?

I punt my partner and my kids around in my A3...plenty of room.

I love my F6, and love big cars but in reality that size car is not necessary unless your kids are gorillas.

kaniSS · 13-11-2015, 10:47 AM

What a load of BS. These idiots don't know what they are on about.

Wretched · 13-11-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tempted

You can just tell this list was compiled by some trendy inner city dwelling *******.

Please explain

superyob · 13-11-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Please explain

Smells of latte?

Wretched · 13-11-2015, 11:40 AM

So no substance behind the comment then.
May be they should have another award for fordforums.com.au members where Falcon wins everything and it is the only competitor.

new2ford · 13-11-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Why not?

Go and look at a Golf and an Octavia parked beside each other in the local VAG showroom and you'll see why.

Wretched · 13-11-2015, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by new2ford

Go and look at a Golf and an Octavia parked beside each other in the local VAG showroom and you'll see why.

It can still function as a family car but I would agree with you on that.
My question was more around the fact the statement implied that a Golf (or equivalent) could not be a family car, that it must be a 3 box sedan that can tow a house, carry 3 baby seats, RWD and go back in time.

LyleXR8 · 13-11-2015, 11:55 AM

Family of 2 adults, 2 kids would be considered average, I'd like to see them in this on a family holiday for a week, especially when the kids are teenagers,

Brazen · 13-11-2015, 12:22 PM

Spent two weeks driving holiday in a little rental Mitsubishi ASX. 2 adults, 2 kids and all their gear such as luggage etc. it did it fine, it did actually make reevaluate how big of car do we actually need. Especially as most small cars are actually quite big and the hatch ones are quite versatile. I would think a Golf would be a great car for a young family.

Sioso · 13-11-2015, 01:09 PM

I think I could just manage a weeks holiday in my Golf with the wife and 2 young kids (2&4).
The AWD system means I get a smaller boot than the FWD versions but you would be surprised how much you can get in.
Everyone has plenty of room inside and it very comfortable also.
If I had teenagers it would be a bit too cramped and I imagine they would want to bring a lot of crap which wouldn't fit.

I am surprised it won considering dieselgate, poor customer service and ongoing electrical issues - go into any VW forum and there are tons of electrical issues being reported - mine still isn't fixed after 15 weeks so I am overly bitter towards these cheating german ba$tards.

LeadFoot81 · 13-11-2015, 02:26 PM

Fiesta ST FTW.

Buzz boxes FTW.

Torque steering little monsters FTW.

#sorrynotsorry

**Polyal** · 13-11-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

Fiesta ST FTW.

Buzz boxes FTW.

Torque steering little monsters FTW.

#sorrynotsorry

I think its an awesome car but how many people, hand on your heart, would buy one when you have $100k to play with?

You can pencil in the Mustang for next years winner then, that or the Focus RS.

deluxe_ · 13-11-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by new2ford

Yes they screwed up - that should be the Skoda Octavia. Skoda make the family cars in VAG, VW basically makes single person/childless-couple cars.

Good to see the Fabia there as a recommended first car. It's really great, extremely comfortable and so much internal space for its size (like all their cars). Just hate VW's DSG gearbox but that's a personal thing.

Superb and Mondeo should have been the contenders for the best family car over $30k. Mazda has never been a leader in the space race.

This forum goes through varies phases. At one stage considerable amount of people were praising Hyundai as the Gods greatest gift to human kind and now it seems there's large pool of people jumping on to the Skoda bandwagon.

zilo · 13-11-2015, 03:09 PM

say it a bit louder?

Car of the year...

Tesla Model S.

Qwerty321 · 13-11-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

So no substance behind the comment then.
May be they should have another award for fordforums.com.au members where Falcon wins everything and it is the only competitor.

Oh I don't know. I think the Commodore might win some

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Originally Posted by zilo

say it a bit louder?

Car of the year...

Tesla Model S.

Cause it takes about a year to charge

In all honesty I'm surprised not a single Toyota, Holden or Subaru made the list. I was so sure a Camry or Commo of some form would have made it. And lets be honest, Subaru's are just downright amazing cars.

ebv8 · 13-11-2015, 03:26 PM

carsales have lost the plot

wonder if the Golf would be ok to take the family of 5 down the coast with the boat on the back. a colleague has a jetta and its cramped just going to lunch it it with 4 people

and Tesla.....its a novelty car not a real car

deluxe_ · 13-11-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Spent two weeks driving holiday in a little rental Mitsubishi ASX. 2 adults, 2 kids and all their gear such as luggage etc. it did it fine, it did actually make reevaluate how big of car do we actually need. Especially as most small cars are actually quite big and the hatch ones are quite versatile. I would think a Golf would be a great car for a young family.

Golf sized cars are the norm in Europe where many use it as a daily family get around car irrespective of the age and size of the kids.

However, it's only in Aus and Us where folks prefer to commute in comfort opting for a large sedans. But I see this trend changing lately with the sales of smaller cars increasing ever more.

Wretched · 13-11-2015, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

Family of 2 adults, 2 kids would be considered average, I'd like to see them in this on a family holiday for a week, especially when the kids are teenagers,

4 adults in a Focus ST with luggage no issues.
Same in a Corolla.

How often do people go for a week long trip?
If you're buying a car specific for that then a people move? A SUV/4WD?
What would fit? How do those poor souls in Europe do it?
Buying a car for a specific non regular activity is a bit strange. It's like me buying a Ranger/Hilux because once very year or two i need to move a few items around.

A family car is something that can do most genera activities required of a family, transporting them around comfortably, enough room in the boot to fit the shopping or anything else and should do it for a reasonable cost. Not forgetting the so called small hatches these days have as much interior room as medium/large cars about 30 years ago had. Same if not more power too.

zilo · 13-11-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwerty321

In all honesty I'm surprised not a single Toyota, Holden or Subaru made the list. I was so sure a Camry or Commo of some form would have made it. And lets be honest, Subaru's are just downright amazing cars.

It all depends on how much money you have.

LeadFoot81 · 13-11-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I think its an awesome car but how many people, hand on your heart, would buy one when you have $100k to play with?

You can pencil in the Mustang for next years winner then, that or the Focus RS.

The point of cars like Fiesta ST is that you can have fun without spending the coin. Buy the car on its merits and pocket the 70K odd left over.

And yes, look out for Mustang and Focus RS (particularly the RS)

Falcon SXR8 · 13-11-2015, 06:14 PM

Some really weird choices I have to admit. Since when is a vw golf a family sedan ??? You can fit a family in a dual cab ute but that doesn't put it in the family car class. And tesla..... car of the year...... what...... who the heck is buying those things in large numbers in australia??? How are they even relevant at the moment??? They seem like a novelty at the moment to me.

I'm so out of touch with the car buying public it seems