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What's the biggest tyre for 16" rims on the front of our beasts?
My work ute / RTV mock up has 215/60/16 now, and I assume the RTV 215/65/16 will fit too. At what size will it hit the top ball joint? 235/60/16 is the same diameter as the RTV tyre, but obviously wider. Has anyone tried these? Or even 225/60/16?
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So 215/60/16 is stock fitment for all 16" falcons
235/60/16 is not the same diameter as stock. The second measurement (60) is not a measurement in mm or inches like the 215 and the 16 are (respectively) but is a percentage/ratio. I'd be mighty surprised if a 215/65/16 or 225/60/16 would foul on anything. I've been thinking of fitting one of the two to correct my slight speedo issue. Use this handy tyre calc tool for diameter sizes. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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I was still right about 215 not being the only size on Falcons with 16" rims. Quote:
I'm looking to see if anyone has done it to confirm. What's with the attitude anyhow? ![]()
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dunno whats going on, but old mate said 215/60 was the factory size, and you said that it acutally was 225/50.
given that there are slightly different sizes for variations in AU models, and that 215/60/16 is the most common in the AU's i thought id bluntly correct as you did him. btw, im 100% sure 225/60/16 wont fit on the front of the previous models, id almost bet a left nut that it wont clear the suspension in the AU front as well |
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Um... Mont, lucky you didn't actually make that bet, you could be hobbling for a while otherwise. I have previously fitted 225/60/16 to the missus wagon to try and correct the speedo and they clear everything fine except for the inner lip at the top of the guard which will get snagged when you get near full lock as soon as you put any compression on the front suspension and then drag the lip down and out into the breeze. It's a pain in the a$$ to fold back up into the guard without trashing the guard profile at the top of the wheel arch. The stock 215/60/16 will also snag the guard too on full lock if you fully compress the suspension such as riding up a gutter or steep driveway ramp off of the road. Take a look at some of the AU's front guards around the place and you'll notice more than a couple will have the tell tale kink at the top of the wheel arches.
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I couldn't honestly tell you Sox, it was 3 or 4 years ago but I can tell you I never spotted any tell tale scuff marks on the inside of the tyre from any contact with the ball joint. The only time I ever had issues with ball joint clearance was when I picked up a set of VT SS 17s that someone had bought as blanks and put a ford stud pattern in. When I fitted them to the front of the wagon they just touched the ball joint and rubbed right on the lip of the rim. I bought 8mm spacers to correct the offset and all was good. They didn't last long and I on sold them but that's a different story. When I fitted ford 17's to the front there was about 8-10mm of clearance from the rim lip to the ball joint so that might give you some idea of the clearance you'd have. I'd hazard a guess that you could get 235/60/16 on with clearance as long as your guards were out of the way.
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I've never seen a single 16" AU sedan or wagon from factory with anything other than 215/60/16s.
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Falcon 'S' also had them.
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ok, i'd accept that. but it's still the case that the absolute vast majority of AUs wear 215/60/16s
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I think you'll find that the tyre sticker on the back edge of the drivers door lists 225's as well as the 215's so they must be a standard fitment.
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my tyre placard lists 215/55/16s and 215/60/16s
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My work ute sticker has 205/65/15, and my XR8 220 has 225/50/16 and 235/45/17.
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I'm pretty sure our Futura wagon lists 215/60/16 and 225/60/16, but that may indeed be 225/50/16. I'll have to check tonight when the missus gets home.
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AU 16's were most common with 215/60X16, however they did come with 215/55X16's as a standard fitament on some models. Unfortunately my memory doesn't stretch far enough to remember exactly what models had the 55 series fitted. (I seem to think the fairmont or fairlane, but I'm not swearing by that). XR's (I think) came with 225/50X16 from the factory.
15" wheels on AU's were a 205/65X15, but were only available with AU series 1. After that series, they bought out bigger brakes, so the 15" wheels wouldn't clear the calipers. 17" AU wheels had 235/45X17 fitted as standard. As for clearance issues with 235/60X16. Don't know as I have never fitted this size to any Falcon. You might be able to get some friendly tyre shop to fit a 2nd handy up, just for clearance purposes. This size was very common on Rav 4's.
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I had thought of zipping down to a tyre place about the 235's.
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Further to the door sticker info, I just checked my Fairlane and it lists 225/60/16 as well as the 235/45/17 which came on the Sportsman.
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Our ex police au 2 came with 215/50/R16 I think
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i can confirm the xr`s had 225/50/16`s, Edit: well on the series 2`s anyway.
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I've got a set of those S1 clover leaf XR 16" rims with 225/50/16 sitting in the shed actually. The tyre size was good actually, plenty of meat on the side to protect the rims. Thinking of putting them back on the wagon, as the Mrs keeps whacking and scraping the left side after double night shifts. I'd be darn groggy too after such shifts, but it's murder on the rims and tyres! LOL! Quote:
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Ive had 2 Au ser2 utes with 15s.
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Nearly 2 years later
![]() I picked up 4 Duelers for $100, will do a test fit in the next couple days and see how close that upper ball joint actually is. If they fit, it will give me another ~12mm increase in height. ![]()
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Well, the 235/60/16 tyres that I have here do fit an AU, and just miss the UBJ.
However, they are that close, that certain brand tyres may not, depending on the tread pattern etc.
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