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Only in America !
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/21/h...ns0748AMVODtop "Almost a week after 17 students and teachers were gunned down at a Florida high school, the state legislature voted against a measure to consider a ban on semi-automatic weapons. Instead, they declared pornography to be public health risk."
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What ****ers
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The gun culture in the US is almost genetically ingrained; when their headline legal document tells them that they have the right to bear arms and has done so since 1791, gun control becomes a quaint idea.
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The authorities dropped the ball big-time on this latest shooting - the FBI knew about him and his threats for months. Since that terrible incident at least two other planned attacks have been thwarted and the latest is something to do with an armed-guard refusing to enter the school when he first heard shots were being fired - well that's whats been reported thus far.
If you actually read-up on similar attacks, you'll find on several occasions that the killer/s were known to the authorities in one form or another, or the immediate family knew something wasn't right, go figure. Ban the mentioned semi-auto rifles and they'll just resort to regular guns/pistols. Take all the guns away then they'll go searching for them in the underworld - now you can't ban that, but lets say they could, then the killer will use knives/bows. Take them away and they'll use chemicals, fire,bombs,vehicles etc. As far as I can tell gun control only works for law-abiding citizens. |
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Perhaps they will arm the teachers with porn then?
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Wouldnt it be harder to shoot up a school running around with an erection? I just dont understand the gun nut mentality. A. If its legal (i know they have some laws) then whos to judge the good people from the bad, and B, regardless of the situation i personally would feel terrible knowing i killed or mamed another person.
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Then, there are authorities and or people who are aware, dropping the ball (again) by not acting when they should. |
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Porn is a health risk, it's sending countless teenage boys blind everyday.
On a serious note though the hypocrisy of this isn't lost on me, guns and shooting are ok but heaven forbid you should be able to look at some boobies.
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Yes, but the US is run by evangelicals, a 15yo boy won't go to hell for owning a gun.
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All I can say is those who want change need to make it happen. They need to give their representatives the ammo (no pun intended) to get it done.
Politicians ultimately care about having their bum on the seat so they need to make it a election issue. |
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Without doubt the gun culture is genetically ingrained and you will never ever stop it in America, Obama is proof of this as he tried to introduce new gun controls and failed miserably.
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I didn't read it that way, but I wasn't sure how much you may or may not know.
I have firearms. I've gone hunting since I was very young. I began target shooting even younger and participated in match competition. With that said, I don't know what is in the minds of the people who have so little regard for the lives of others. |
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Porn kills, Mmkay ?
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Can't really compare our gun-policy/laws/stats to those of America. They have 325 million people with over 325 million firearms, and it all differs from state to state - 15 to 20 times more whack-jobs walking the streets than here. And 9/10 of the mass-shootings are committed by the latter.
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Meanwhile, Florida still marries off 11 year old girls to pedos.
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If I got a gun licence I could not think of anything worse than having to go to a target shooting club so many times a year or fork out money for all the crap you have to do. I am over going out shooting anyway and I have no intent to shoot anyone regardless, I just could not do it because I know I would regret it and it's nothing to do with the law but their is also that on top of it all, this stupid mate claims to be protecting his family from Islam. Yes I am sure there are many bad people who will have guns and are organised criminals and our Governments are totally inept if one does bother to look into such things but our media covers all that up and hides everything they can and never expose such, take the Sydney hostage dude for example, have you seen the list of things that moron had did before all this, when I seen that I was like the PM should be made to resign, this is a joke that that moron was out on the streets let alone in Australia at all, not to mention how many such morons are out there running about free that the laws can not touch and that bastard had his backers who looked after him with lawyers all the way for years, so the government had no hope of tossing him out anyway. There is a bloke with a site that exposes all this foolishness, so that you can look into such things if you have the time, look it all up at Bernard Gaynor site. he exposes the fact is, so much for trying to be dobbing in such morons is proven just does not work, but people who were going on about such morons for years were disregarded and one Moslem dude went up to the media on TV and he was brushed aside directly and he was a well respected person in the community who knew this person and was warning about him but he himself was rejected totally for doing so and if they listened to him them people would never of been killed. The dobbing in TV adds are nothing but a front to try make the government look good in the eyes of the people but it's a far cry from the reality truth be told. |
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More people shoot everyday due to porn than guns.
The amount of girls I have seen shot in the face recently is horrific! Ahem.
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Gun ownership was written into the Constitution because people wanted to able to defend themselves .They weren't certain the Government of the day would.
This applies to today. Look at what happens in Melbourne and Sydney?
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Beginning from the viewpoint of a 3 year old: A family friend gave me a pair of toy "six shooter" revolvers and a quick draw holster. Well, of course I had to learn how to quick draw. One day my mother saw me quick draw on someone waking by. She took them from me right then and there. Then a couple days later my father took me to the gun store and picked out a single shot co2 powered crossman pellet pistol, a target trap, some targets, pellets and some co2 cartridges. He spent a good long time explaining gun safety, gun etiquette, maintenance, and finally after a few days about, charging, unloading and discharging the gun. Of course, that when on for a few days too. Then I learned about the targets and the trap, where it goes and why, what the circles with the numbers meant. This included one of my first serious math lessons. I had only known what a "bullseye" was, but now I learned a bullseye was 10 points, whatever that was. Also, I learned the black circle in the center of the target had many bigger circles with the same center as the bulleye and each had a number as well. Yet there were more circles that kept getting bigger as well and also had the same center as the bullseye and had numbers. Turned out the bullseye had the biggest number and each bigger circle was worth 1 less point than the one just inside it, until the last circle was worth 1 point. If you happened to miss the target or hit the target out side of the biggest circle you got 0 points. Okay after a few days of that, then watching my father prepare the targets, prepare the gun, load the gun, take position, aim and fire. Repeat loading through firing steps 9 more times. Retrieve the target, while putting a new target, add up points and try to recall what may have caused any stray shots and make a note. Repeat that process 9 more times. Sort through all the scores and some Q&A. After a few days of that, finally I got to shoot. The idea was to score points and eventually outscore my father while practicing everything I had learned. I surprised my father. I was actuallya shot even at that age. By the time I was 4 we went to the gun store together an picked out a single action 6 shot .22 cal revolver, with holsters (we obviously couldn't share he same holster) and some .22 cal "shorts" which worked with the targets and trap. A couple years later I discovered was much closer in skill with a rifle in comparison to my father and his Korean war friends. By the age of 7 I could out score all of my fathers friends. By the age of 13 I could out score my father and was officially the the marksman of the family. It took me a few more years to know how to set up a rifle better and load more accurate rounds. I think that happened by the time I was 20. I have always enjoyed the sport. The firearms I have now are intended for hunting and recreational target shooting. Of course, that includes a couple revolvers. I like them and they can take down deer and boar. ...didn't mean to go on so much... BTW, it was my mother who got me interested in automobile racing too. |
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Thinking about the AR-15, which is capable of firing hundreds of rounds per minute with minimal mods, and probably even the full 100 rounds you can get into an aftermarket cartridge, in less than a minute if you keep releasing & pulling the trigger. Is there any need for this sort of weapon in recreational hunting? And 2nd question - are these types of semi-auto guns even accurate enough for hunters who pride themselves in the accuracy of their shot? Sounds like your parents were both very wise and patient. You were well supervised as a kid, not only to keep you out of trouble, but to do the hard yards to learn, and earn, respect. Unfortunately that's rare these days. |
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When you think back to when they came up with "the right to bear arms" technology pretty much revolved around muzzle-loaded powder rifles & pistols. One shot, then you have to reload - so make it a good one. Imagine the giant leap forward in the next century, when the six-shooter was invented - 6 shots, one after the other, just have to release the trigger and pull it again. And another century later, we've got weapons that can fire hundreds of rounds per minute, that can be accessed by at least half the US population. Those drawing up the constitution could never have imagined how things would progress, and there's been little change since.
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What happens in Melbourne and Sydney?????? .... apart from road rage ... without guns.
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JMO, there are very few semi automatic weapons I would voluntarily use against a grizzly bear. They are huge, powerful, fast, built to kill, mean, nasty and territorial. Given the choice, at the very least, I would want something like a .340 cal Lapua in a well made bolt action rifle. In a pinch, close in, I would use 12 ga, Brenneke magnum rounds in either a semi auto or pump action Tactical shot gun. Quote:
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One last note, the early revolvers were originally "single action", like my current revolvers. A single action requires the hammer to be manually pulled back into a locked position, then you can pull the trigger to discharge a round. i still like single actions. Besides, I learned to quick draw. I really did after a while. The art is to do it with a single action. Last edited by solarite_guy; 25-02-2018 at 02:29 PM. |
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