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23-10-2014, 01:38 PM | #1 | |||
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23-10-2014, 02:09 PM | #2 | ||
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hyundai and kia will end up owning the car market the way they are going.
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23-10-2014, 02:48 PM | #3 | ||
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I agree they are heading that way, but for some reason I can't see myself myself becoming an owner of one.
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23-10-2014, 02:51 PM | #4 | |||
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It could be that they have decided to invest money and better their product with each iteration?
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23-10-2014, 02:51 PM | #5 | ||
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@blueoval Have you driven a recent one? Nothing wrong with them. Top that off with a long warranty, reasonable pricing for the car and servicing and there's not much to make people shy away.
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23-10-2014, 02:52 PM | #6 | |||
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I suspect however the car was designed to excel at the crash ratings system but time will tell. and an 80K Hyundai. Hard to say, even harder to grasp. JP |
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23-10-2014, 02:59 PM | #7 | |||
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My mums IX35 has been back to the dealer for menial things. Her windscreen wipers did not work during winter, took it to the dealer and it took a week to get that replaced. Roof rack cover to the mounting plate fell off. Took months to replace. My mates I30 is better and I havent heard any failings from him yet. I guess it's my mind set on the brand itself that needs to look at things for what it is. Yes they have improved in the past 5-10years but I am still very happy with my 7yo Subaru which has been and continues to be excellent.
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23-10-2014, 03:01 PM | #8 | ||
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Great that the safety is improving but I would still prefer alert/aware drivers in unsafe cars than the other way around.
Based on what I see on the roads that isn't going to happen anytime soon.... |
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23-10-2014, 03:09 PM | #9 | |||
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Make cars dangerous and involved like say a 1970s escort or falcon or 1990's hyundais or whatevs and people might start paying attention and driving more cerefully. 'Id like the 5 star danger rating please as I have difficulty concentrating on what I'm doing' JP |
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23-10-2014, 04:21 PM | #10 | ||
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23-10-2014, 04:31 PM | #11 | |||
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no doubt people will come to rely on these safety aids........ probably get lazy, will they make for better drivers ? Until cars fully drive themselves 5 stars safety to me is not the be all of motoring. |
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23-10-2014, 04:51 PM | #12 | |||
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I read a while ago that the Sth Korean Gov was throwing money at private companies for R&D, it now seem to be paying off. Snippets from the McKinsey & Company page.... "South Korea’s capital investments in research and development are among the highest in the world relative to national income." http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/win...e#introexhibit
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23-10-2014, 06:08 PM | #13 | ||
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The thing that gets me about these ultra high scores in ANCAP testing is are these truly, exceptionally safe cars or are they cars designed and engineered in a way to pass the ANCAP tests with exceptional results.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather high scoring ANCAP car in my driveway, but are these results truly believable or are they a result of manufactures knowing how to play the system?
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23-10-2014, 07:39 PM | #14 | |||
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Sorry mate, that statement is absolute rubbish. (not a personal attack.)
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23-10-2014, 07:47 PM | #15 | |||
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Unfortunately Ancap is fairly limited in regards to what types of crash tests they conduct, to gain an well-rounded picture of a car's crash worthiness. |
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23-10-2014, 07:50 PM | #16 | ||
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how so?
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23-10-2014, 08:32 PM | #17 | |||
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23-10-2014, 08:39 PM | #18 | ||
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Yeah - I'm keen to hear your rationale there XBv8.
We bought an i30 diesel new in 2008. One of the things that appealed to us was the 5 year warranty because none of the others we looked at could match that at the time. We needn't have worried though, because nothing went wrong with it in that 5 years. In fact it's still going like a new one. Not bad for a heap of poop eh? Russ. |
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23-10-2014, 10:28 PM | #19 | ||
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Actually thinking about ancap 5 star safety rating, in theory you could tart up any micro car with all manner of electronic goodies and air bags , flashing lights, trunk monkey, safety cell, etc etc, but if it held a higher points ancap score ............................ in an accident against a slightly lower points rated 5 star big car ....which vehicle would you rather be in ???
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23-10-2014, 11:05 PM | #20 | ||
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I think this pic said it all lol give me a ford any day
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23-10-2014, 11:06 PM | #21 | ||
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Wheels used to do comparisons (may still do it) of popular vehicles ability to avoid an accident.
I realize some accidents are unavoidable but I think you might be better off in a car with a lower score that has decent stability control and handling. |
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24-10-2014, 07:40 AM | #22 | ||
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Here is a pretty thorough article on the Genesis, for those after a bit more info:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/293396/2...enesis-review/
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24-10-2014, 08:50 AM | #23 | ||
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Good on them, Hyundai and Kia have both come leaps and bounds, but I put little value on having the highest ANCAP rating when looking at purchusing a car. Don't get me wrong I look at it but I'd imagine SUVs with good ratings (X5 for example) will fair better than the Genesis if the two were to collide.
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24-10-2014, 09:01 AM | #24 | ||
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Might as well give Aus consumers the latest SsangYong Chairman... with its 5 litre V8.
More the merrier. Genesis looks good. |
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24-10-2014, 09:59 AM | #25 | ||
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Those ssangyongs used to be just rebadged Merc E/S Classes. Is that what they still are?
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24-10-2014, 10:16 AM | #26 | |||
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Saangyong is now owned by the the Indian Co Mahindra
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24-10-2014, 10:20 AM | #27 | ||
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No the Chairman is the car I was talking about. It actually looked like a Benz sedan. They had a write up on it in motor magazine back around 2005 from memory.
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24-10-2014, 10:42 AM | #28 | ||
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Ah right. The original ones were based on the W124 Benz family, don't know about the newer ones though.
The W124 started around 1986 I think, I've got a 1987 230e W124 and they're about as bullet proof as the AU
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24-10-2014, 10:54 AM | #29 | ||
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Ssang Yong Chairman 2015 http://indianautosblog.com/2014/06/2...irman-w-133879
Sorry !!! fingers clicked wrong photo !! first is a Mondeo...second is the Chairman
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24-10-2014, 11:21 AM | #30 | |||
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