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Old 28-10-2008, 05:48 PM   #1
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Hey everyone. im stuck between choosing a EL fairmont ghia or a ELxr6. Ive been leaning more towards the ghia due to it having full options, leather seats and an optional sunroof, but i guess these sort features can come with the xr6.
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Does anyone have any of these for sale for a good price?

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Old 28-10-2008, 05:51 PM   #2
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up to you really.

they share the same engine and diff, xr6 can come in manual which is fun (i have an EL XR6 for sale if you are interested).
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Old 28-10-2008, 05:52 PM   #3
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This question is so common! ... You will get mixed oppinions, then a fight will start and the thread will end up being locked LOL, but here's my point...

I would say go the GHIA, just because you have all the extra's that come with it (yes you can find optioned XR6's, but you pay so much more, for so much less) ... And if i'm not mistaken, the GHIA comes with the same ECU setup as the XR6?
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Do you have a link for me to see ur xr6? r u situated in nsw? im from victoria so it might be a bit hard if its up there lol
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Here's my thought;

If it's I6 Ghia vs I6 XR6 manual then the choice is clear - XR6 all the way and back again.

If it's auto vs auto - tough one, but I'd still go the XR6.

If your looking at a Fairmont Ghia, go the whole hog, do it properly and get one with the V8.

Either way, I think luxo cars a overated. How many times do you fiddle with the extra gadgets before the novelty wears off?
A top drive (XR models) will always be more enjoyable long term in my opinion...
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Do you have a link for me to see ur xr6? r u situated in nsw? im from victoria so it might be a bit hard if its up there lol
hi mate, for sale thread is here:

http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11236370

depends where abouts in vic you are and how serious you are about the car.

I'd be happy to drive to albury for a serious buyer.
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Either way, I think luxo cars a overated. How many times do you fiddle with the extra gadgets before the novelty wears off?
A top drive (XR models) will always be more enjoyable long term in my opinion...
I disagree, but thats just me and as I said above everyone will have a different view. But having owned both, it's a hard decision. But sometimes you just don't want to drive a sports car, and my Luxo goes harder then its equivilant in the XR6 Model, also even cains a Stock XR8. Sooo it's hard to say that a sports model is better than the luxo
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Look on the bright side, you'll likely get a Ghia with all its extra options over an XR6 for less money.
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yeh i would love a v8, but im on my p's and its ristrict until i get off them which is next year. I have weighed up the difference between them, and the main difference is the comfortablilty of the fairmont over the xr6
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Change the seats?
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EL Fairmont "Ghia" will have the EL XR6 Motor in it

Buy the EL Fairmont Ghia then later put the EL XR6 front on it
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^^ Couldn't ov said it better myself ... besides the XR Front :P
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Either way, I think luxo cars a overated. How many times do you fiddle with the extra gadgets before the novelty wears off?
A top drive (XR models) will always be more enjoyable long term in my opinion...
I disagree. Every one of my extras gets used regularly, everything from the cruise control right down to the little things like extra interior lighting and the trip computer. Comfier seats is a bonus too. As others have said, depends if you want manual or auto. If you want manual, get an XR6. If you want auto, get the Ghia. This is actually grinds my gears. If you want luxury, Ford presume you want auto. Hence why I had to make my own combining the best of sports and luxury.
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combining the best of sports and luxury.
Taken out of context, but a damn big call for an EA!
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If the pricing is similar, you are happy with auto and leaning towards luxury, the Ghia is the go. It will probably be a bit softer in the suspension, but that can be *fixed*.
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Old 28-10-2008, 08:42 PM   #17
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i have an ef fairmont ghia.. I say go the el fairmont ghia because if they are like the ef they have the exact same motor, gearbox and diff as the xr6 and you get the bonus of all the luxury comforts including electric everything. Ghia has nicer interior in my opinion. Xr6 may have the front end but they arent to hard to put on the ghia if you want that look.

I personally would pick the fairmont ghia over the xr6. I find that the xr6s are way overpriced compared to the ghia considering the ghia has more to offer.
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Old 28-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #18
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Go the XR6, and put the trip computer in yourself. If they were both the same price and it was a fairmont ghia I6, you'd be crazy to go that option, in my opinion anyway. EL/EF xr's look hot.

EDIT: Yeah, the front end is easy to put on, but by the time you buy it, get it freighted, paint and fit its gonna be close to $1000.

I cant fathom that you are even debating this, xr6 all the way, especially if its white.
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guy you may get a little up set with me i have an el futura and iam finding it hard to sell it, what i should of done is buy a el xr6 which i wanted in the first place then i proberly would of been easier to sell plus they hold their value a litte more and i think they could be a collectors item 1 day, but they are only worth what people are going to pay, when i was buying my el i couldnt justify the insurace at that time for a xr6 because of my low wages back then, so i settled for the futura, on the other hand there is nothing wrong with the ghia i like the bling bits on the el fairmont nice options too it up 2, and maybe cheaper insurance? but my advise too you is go any thing you like as long as it had a tickford motor in it and you cant go wrong in that idea

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xr for sure more sporty
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mate go with what you feel comfortable with,if you like the ghia buy it,if the xr makes you warm and fuzzy buy it.

its your choice in the end,you'll get what you want to get.
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Personally I would go with the Ghia. If I couldn't find one with Touring suspension I would lower it.

True you miss out on the XR front, but I use the NC's gadget's all the time. My Ghia has more features than my BA XR6 did (apart from some inflating pillows and a little thing called modern styling!!!)

Standard Ghia suspension would annoy me though, so I would factor that into any decision.

XR would have much better resale and looks better.

Clear as mud...

For mine though, Ghia.
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Another opinion, for what it's worth:

if your young the xr6 may be dearer to insure. In my limited experience the XR's are dearer to buy second hand, while the luxury cars just aren't sought after.

If your young your likely to be targetted by the police. My lady friend drives fast. She absolutely loves her white el futura because it's anonomyous. It's lowered 1" with konis all round and drives so sweetly, but looks like a shopping trolley. I ahve incredibly bad luck with speeding tickets but my fairlane again makes me look like a granddad from a distance so they ignore me.

I live in brisbane so wouldn't be without air conditioning, however I think the climate control and trip computer aren't necessary. Velour or leather are huge improvments over the cloth, but otherwise a futura has everything you could want. I use cruise a LOT!

I could be wrong but I thought there was almost nothing in the XR vs std I6 ? about 7 hp or something ? and a red rocker cover

If it were me I'd check prices vs condition and miles. Assuming the fairmont ghia is same or less $ then throw some konis under it and a slippery diff and maybe some brakes that don't wear out every 5 minutes, and 16" factory wheels (insurance again), top tyres and you'll have a comfortable car that's rewarding to drive. And you'll only get noticed as much as you want to.

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I disagree, but thats just me and as I said above everyone will have a different view. But having owned both, it's a hard decision. But sometimes you just don't want to drive a sports car, and my Luxo goes harder then its equivilant in the XR6 Model, also even cains a Stock XR8. Sooo it's hard to say that a sports model is better than the luxo
Your stock fairmont I6 beats a XR8? Pull the other one mate. :

On topic... Have owned both the EL Ghia, and currently the EL XR6. Both are reasonably similar IMO. If you plan on modding, I'd assume lowering and exhaust would be on the cards. Suspension and exhaust are the two difference's between ghia and XR (believe XR has an extra 2kw due to its exhaust, might be Cam actually, but anyway) Lower the ghia, get an exhaust, and you have a ghia which will out handle and sound better then an XR6, with all the luxuries.

Then of course if you like the XR look get the lights, bar, bonnet etc and convert to XR spec. Best of both worlds.

With the cost of the Ghia compared to the XR you could probably even convert a Ghia to XR spec externally for the price of a good nick XR, and then still have all the luxuries.

If I had my choice again I'd probably keep my ghia, and chuck an XR front on it. I miss the luxury :togo:
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Ha Ha coming from an owner of an AWESOME EL XR6 - exactly what i said in a previous post
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I've owned two EL Ghia's, one an I6, the other a V8. I've also owned two xr6's, but not EL's. I've always tended to lean toward the luxury versions over the sporty models. You tend to get more options at a lower (second hand) price. The EL Ghia's are arguably the best looking Ghia's ever made too, and i'm looking for another one as we speak.
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I myself have an EF II fairmont ghia auto and an EF XR6 Manual. The Xr6 is a more fun drive because of the manual and sports like handling and I luxurys of the fairmont ghia such as leather and climate control have really grown on me. I would still pick the xr because I am more of a fan of a good driving experience/thrill over luxury. Also my Xr is about 7.4 seconds to 100kmph and my Ghia is about 8.4 to 100. I love the XR cause it always beats the tool's in their commondores who think they are top because they drive a VY. I would pick a manual XR over an auto Ghia.
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