Holden's new Daewoo Barina sedan crash test results

[Falcon Freak]

This new Daewoo manufactured model was just released by Holden on the Australian new car market.

The same vehicle is known as the Chevrolet Aveo on other markets. Here are the Euro NCAP crash test results for the new Barina/Aveo model.

The results speak for themselves.

FF

[Fairlane]

Very Dodgy.

And thats only the sedan, i assume that the hatch would be even worse.

[070mstg]

a facelifted Lanos with a holden badge,whatcha expect really?

[M14A-Mclaren]

What sort of protection does the Holden badge have over the Chev one?

[outback_ute]

That is a very ugly crash test pic, not surprising really.

[PH47]

Why is everyone so suprised that new barina is a daewoo... daewoo is just another GM brand now, so GM, holden, daewoo, all the same ИИИИ just different smell.

Not that i'm defending it, it's still a cheap POS, but every forum is just continually bagging it out because "it's a daewoo".. rather than just saying it's a cheap plastic POS.

[Fairlane]

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=199

also a cheap POS, but evidently a much safer one

[outback_ute]

Senifix - the reason why the new "Daewoo" Barina is being bagged is because it is replacing the old Opel-based model which was actually a good, well-engineered car. When they were badged as Daewoos people would expect a cheap POS, there will be many people who won't realise the significance of the change and you can bet Holden dealers won't be pointing it out. At least they still sell the Astra alongside the Viva.

[PH47]

Ah ok outback_ute.. makes sense from that perspective I just don't get people bagging out a car purely based on the brand alone as there's good and bad (and VERY bad) from any brand.

But yer the fact it's "disguised" is a bit of a joke..

I went looking at Astra's today for my gf, she wants one, and there was some new Barina's there.. one thing I found humourous was one had it's bonnet open and the plates on the radiator support panel say in big bold writing "GM-Daewoo"..

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Fairlane

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=199

also a cheap POS, but evidently a much safer one

Unless you're a pedestrian! The Daewoo/Holden/Chevy thing has like four stars pedestrian saftey. I guess because they're so soft, they crumple even hitting a soft and light obstacle like a person. :

I'd hate to be in one, hitting something made of metal. :

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Senifix - the reason why the new "Daewoo" Barina is being bagged is because it is replacing the old Opel-based model which was actually a good, well-engineered car.

Don't want to disillusion you outback_ute but I owned an 'Opel' Barina prior to the Territory. It also had a very poor crash rating, so poor that Holden had to put front airbags in. It was also a POS - underwent a number of mechanical failures from 2 years on and ended up emptying its coolant into the engine. Burnt me very badly financially before I sold it for next to nothing. Never again Holden.

[distortion]

i survived 5 concrete farm poles sideways at 80kmhr in a daewoo lanos, the car was a write off, but no injuries to me... i was very lucky i guess!

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Senifix - the reason why the new "Daewoo" Barina is being bagged is because it is replacing the old Opel-based model which was actually a good, well-engineered car. When they were badged as Daewoos people would expect a cheap POS, there will be many people who won't realise the significance of the change and you can bet Holden dealers won't be pointing it out. At least they still sell the Astra alongside the Viva.

The old Holden Barina... aka Opel Corsa, was a dog. It required airbags as a standard feature because it could not pass crash saftey tests any other way. It was garbage. The new one is even worse, its a rebadged Fiat.

[blutura]

Originally Posted by Steffo

The old Holden Barina... aka Opel Corsa, was a dog. It required airbags as a standard feature because it could not pass crash saftey tests any other way. It was garbage. The new one is even worse, its a rebadged Fiat.

ahhh, no. its a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Fiat is a completely different company that is not linked to GM.

Daewoo Kalos



Holden Barina



see the resemblence?

perhaps you were getting mixed up with a Fiat Punto?

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by blutura

ahhh, no. its a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Fiat is a completely different company that is not linked to GM.

You might want to check up on that, fiat and GM are tied together, all the Alfisti I know are crying in despair that the new Alfa v6 is the Alloytech bottom end with Alfa built heads/intake.....

[SSBUB]

so not a fan of the new Barina....ergh *shakes head*

[MethodX]

Fiat auto and GM arent tied up anymore.

GM Bought out of the agreement last year, nearly 3 billion I think it was.

Fiat seem to be on the road to recovery, thank gawd.
Could have been worse for Alfa heads, they could have been bought by a Jap manufacturer.

[outback_ute]

Originally Posted by new2ford

Don't want to disillusion you outback_ute but I owned an 'Opel' Barina prior to the Territory.

Which model? I know the earlier ones were pretty poor but I didn't think the most recent one was that bad - I can't say I have kept up to date with the crash tests though so I have now learnt my new thing for the day lol

Fiat and GM are connected, I think there was something like GM trying to buy out of their contract to buy part of Fiat in the news last year - Fiat is even worse financially than GM, I think they were going to pay $2bn to not have to buy it.

[SpoolMan]

Hyundai Accent spanked the new Barina in a recent RACV testing...

[Des]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Hyundai Accent spanked the new Barina in a recent RACV testing...

That's poor....Would of been a laugh to compare, POS1 vs POS2.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by blutura

ahhh, no. its a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Fiat is a completely different company that is not linked to GM.

Actually, I was talking about the new Opel Corsa, which is a rebadged Fiat Punto.

GM once owned Fiat and shelled $2 billion to get out of the deal. Fiat's going down at a faster rate then GM is, so its understandable why they wanted out.

GM supplies Fiat with engines, including HFV6 which is built as a 3.2litre in Melbourne and then shipped off to Italy to be stuck in the engine bays of new Alfa Romeo's.

[Des]

Originally Posted by Steffo

GM supplies Fiat with engines, including HFV6 which is built as a 3.2litre in Melbourne and then shipped off to Italy to be stuck in the engine bays of new Alfa Romeo's.

Hence, why they're in so much ИИИИ!! :evilsasmo

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Which model? I know the earlier ones were pretty poor but I didn't think the most recent one was that bad - I can't say I have kept up to date with the crash tests though so I have now learnt my new thing for the day lol

Mine was the one that was around in 1996. I know there was a model that came out after that - how much it was improved I don't know. By that time I'd lost interest in General Motors for life!

[MADDER]

Dial up warning: Linked images are large but worth it for the scale of the horror they depict.

An image of the car and test dummy at rest after the accident can be seen HERE

Damn scary I say.

And HERE is a hi res image at time of impact.

And this is equivalent to the best selling Barina of all time!!!! Live fast and die young seems to be the go for those keen first car buyers.

[jmc-007]

This says it all :

"... Structural deformation and spot-weld release indicated that the bodyshell had been overloaded and had become unstable.
Rearward movement of the A-pillar was penalised. Movement of the steering-wheel presented a hazard to the driver's
head. .."


:lookedat:

Spend the extra money and buy something decent.. pfft holden you jokers

[professorsabre]

Honestly now the hell can a manufacturer release such a death trap on the market and be allowed to get away with it. Can someone answer that for me please....

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by professorsabre

Honestly now the hell can a manufacturer release such a death trap on the market and be allowed to get away with it. Can someone answer that for me please....

...because it well sell on price... although calling it a death trap is a little extreme. Will be interesting if the mags Wheels and Motor pick up on this as well as the local newspapers and a damn shame that Ford won't use this in a marketing campaign pushing the Fiesta...a bit like letting the weight gain stories engulf the BA launch while completely failing to push the fact the car was engineered for a 80km/hr rear-end shunt way ahead of any ADR's requiring such a thing and hence making the car far safer then anything locally produced.

[MrSparkle]

I like this one...

Originally Posted by Jason Laird, Chief Holden Spokesmonkey

But GM Daewoo Auto & Technology has asked for the Aveo to be retested by NCAP and Holden says it disagrees with Euro NCAP’s crash test methodology, which it claims is inconsistent with its own crash-test results. “As is the case with all ENCAP tests, regardless of the results achieved, we fundamentally disagree with the test methodology,” said GM Holden spokesperson Jason Laird.

So let's get this straight, they think the crap result was due to the "testing methodology"??? Clearly Mr Laird is from the planet Uranus, where cars on the open road are only allowed to collide according to a very specific set of parameters. If two cars attempt to collide "accidentally", with impact points that differ from the prescribed "collision methodology", they will be required to go back and repeat the process correctly.

The company line just gets stupider and stupider! What next - invalidating the Wheels COTY testing criteria because they don't use the cupholders with proper "methodology"??????

[MADDER]

Yes Mr Sparkle, I thought that was a good one too.

I think we should be lobbying the local ANCAP testing crew to acquire a Barina and run the test correctly, that will prove just how incompetent these EuroNCAP buggers are.

Should be able to pick one up for a song...

[ltd]

Originally Posted by professorsabre

Honestly now the hell can a manufacturer release such a death trap on the market and be allowed to get away with it. Can someone answer that for me please....

They'll market it as safe because it has 2 airbags.
Typical marketing for Holden.