VicRoads officers routinely dodged speeding fines, demerit points: Ombudsman

[Franco Cozzo]

VicRoads officers routinely dodged speeding fines, demerit points: Ombudsman

Officers in VicRoads' transport safety division routinely granted colleagues exemptions from fines and demerit points for speeding, the Ombudsman has found in a new report.

And the report, by Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass, found that VicRoads officers often placed the public at risk by breaking speed limits in enforcement vehicles without using warning lights and sirens.

The report, tabled in the Victorian parliament on Wednesday, follows an investigation into a complaint referred to the Ombudsman by Victoria's anti-corruption commission, IBAC.

It was alleged that it was "normal practice" for VicRoads Transport Safety Services staff caught speeding in VicRoads vehicles to avoid a fine by claiming "unjustifiable exemptions".

"In effect, the allegation was that some VicRoads staff break the road rules with impunity," Ms Glass wrote.

Ms Glass said the investigation had revealed that some public officials were breaking the very regulations they were responsible for upholding and enforcing.

The Ombudsman has recommended disciplinary action be taken against two VicRoads staff members, and asked that other employees be better trained to prevent the practice continuing.

"People with the power to enforce the law and impose penalties on others must be held to the highest possible standards when it comes to their own conduct. It is a worrying state of affairs when those charged with enforcing the rules not only flout them, but have no qualm in doing so," Ms Glass said.

One enforcement officer interviewed by the Ombudsman as part of the report said that he routinely sped without lights or sirens "and that other officers also follow this practice".

This had highlighted a "culture of entitlement amongst VicRoads officers in Transport Safety Services to breach the legislation they are responsible for administering", the Ombudsman found.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vi...10-ghkkig.html

****in bastards, the lot of them.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vi...10-ghkkig.html

****in bastards, the lot of them.

You sound surprised. Did you come down in the last rain shower ?

This has been like this in NSW since my father was born !!

Dr Terry

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

You sound surprised. Did you come down in the last rain shower ?

This has been like this in NSW since my father was born !!

Dr Terry

Nah I just like flying the F you flag and shaking my fist every now and again when the opportunity arises

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Nah I just like flying the F you flag and shaking my fist every now and again when the opportunity arises

With liberal amounts of table thumping

and this:



Jokes aside, they get away with this because of rampant apathy in the broader electorate.

[Agent86]

Come for a ride in a Big jigger and see how they act towards trucks.. LOL

arrogant so-n-so's at times.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Jokes aside, they get away with this because of rampant apathy in the broader electorate.

Inevitable with two-party politics, and both parties having their snouts in the trough. Civil disobedience is the only alternative.

[new2ford]

Do as I say, not as I do.

[superyob]

Big Damo, are you suggesting that the laws designed to protect us all in this great egalitarian society are not applied in a uniform manner?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by b0son

Inevitable with two-party politics, and both parties having their snouts in the trough. Civil disobedience is the only alternative.

http://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/...13/09/FDTD.pdf

Good read, outlines non aggressive ways of fighting the system

[superyob]

Originally Posted by b0son

Inevitable with two-party politics, and both parties having their snouts in the trough. Civil disobedience is the only alternative.

In what manner and what do you think it will achieve?

[zilo]

I have had Vicroads at VCAT.

During mediation I asked the fat little bald dick manager if he wanted some free dental work in the car park....

These people reckon they are god.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by superyob

In what manner and what do you think it will achieve?

By overwhelming the courts with trivial matters, the entire legal and political system will collapse under the sheer weight of red tape. The trough disappears and those that had their snouts in it end up on their backsides, grovelling for scraps. The power vaccum that the implosion will leave will be too large to fill with another institutional power structure.

Yes there will be short term chaos, but ultimately a small price to pay to rid ourselves of the beast known as govco.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by zilo

I have had Vicroads at VCAT.

During mediation I asked the fat little bald dick manager if he wanted some free dental work in the car park....

These people reckon they are god.

One of our ex councilors ended up getting into a fight with their previous CEO over our local roads, and the dude wouldn't shake his hand afterwards thats how petty they are.

They need the ol' Liverpool kiss, BAM right in the nose!

[Dr Terry]

The problem with going thru the legal system is, if you lay down with dogs, you can get fleas.

I don't want to appear pessimistic but, the a'holes that work in the various government institutions (at all levels) are a law unto themselves & short of using a machine gun at the local council meeting, what other recourse is there ?

Dr Terry.

[jmack]

they dont like when you ask them"so not smart enough to join the police force "

[b0son]

Originally Posted by superyob

In what manner and what do you think it will achieve?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226881559077

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226948786768

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1227306252154

[MercurySilver]

"Speed camera firebomb witness Neil Thomas woke up Monday morning to a “crackle and pop” that he thought was his cat, Ginger Ninja, scratching the couch again."

made me

[MercurySilver]

"The police spokesman said he was unsure how long it would take to clean the camera."
(from the third link)

[LTDHO]

It's stating what we already knew.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

It's stating what we already knew.

But when the media picks up on something it forces at least some sort of reaction from the people with the power to do something.

[superyob]

The issue in question is about people whose jobs are to uphold the law, getting away with breaking them. How is this solved by 'civil disobedience'? Should not the courts be tougher on those people?

[STINKY NINJA]

Not surprising at all,any of us who have the chance to abuse their power in any job/position will at least think about it,most times it will be abused,its human nature.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by superyob

The issue in question is about people whose jobs are to uphold the law, getting away with breaking them. How is this solved by 'civil disobedience'? Should not the courts be tougher on those people?

The actions of these people are symptomatic of a morally bankrupt and corrupt system, rotten to the core. It is for this reason calls for civil disobedience are being made.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by superyob

The issue in question is about people whose jobs are to uphold the law, getting away with breaking them. How is this solved by 'civil disobedience'? Should not the courts be tougher on those people?

If there was a lesser focus on mindless enforcement of 1kph infringements, there would be little need for these peoples jobs to exist in the first place.