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Old 05-05-2008, 02:02 PM   #1
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Ford
Ford Courier 4X2 0
Ford Courier 4X4 5
Ford Escape 224
Ford F250 4X2 3
Ford Fairlane 11
Ford Falcon 1,884
Ford Falcon Ute 877
Ford Fiesta 640
Ford Focus 1,465
Ford Focus Coupe Cabriolet 35
Ford LTD 0
Ford Mondeo 329
Ford Ranger 4X2 800
Ford Ranger 4X4 720
Ford Territory 1,073
Ford Transit 145
Ford Transit Bus 12
Ford Transit C/C 23
TOTAL 8,246 up 6.5% on last April


Holden
Holden Astra 1,154
Holden Astra Convertible 104
Holden Barina 993
Holden Caprice 145
Holden Captiva 909
Holden Combo 82
Holden Commodore 3,324
Holden Epica 139
Holden Monaro 0
Holden Rodeo 4X2 502
Holden Rodeo 4X4 1,013
Holden Statesman 86
Holden Utility 4X2 1,269
Holden Viva 467
TOTAL 10,187 down 8.8%

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Old 05-05-2008, 02:15 PM   #2
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Toyota, Mitsubishi and Mazda figures please?
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:23 PM   #3
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Falcon figures out of course out due to lack of Supply

Fiesta figures are still down, very depressing- How bloody Yaris outsells it I'll never know
Focus figures look decent
Mondeo I guess is still down due to lack of supply

Top Territory and Ranger figures though, those Rangers seem to be selling themselves.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:42 PM   #4
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Toyota, Mitsubishi and Mazda figures please?
Since you asked nicely..

Mazda
Mazda BT-50 4X2 433
Mazda BT-50 4X4 528
Mazda CX-7 350
Mazda CX-9 457
Mazda MX5 59
Mazda RX8 29
Mazda Tribute 0
Mazda2 1,140
Mazda3 2,811
Mazda6 942
TOTAL 6,749 up 18.3%


Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi 380 277
Mitsubishi Colt 219
Mitsubishi Colt Cabriolet 6
Mitsubishi Express 343
Mitsubishi Grandis 47
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,317
Mitsubishi Outlander 824
Mitsubishi Pajero 553
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 634
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 787
TOTAL 5,007 up 15.8%
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:45 PM   #5
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Go the Focus outselling the Astra! How long has that been happening for? I'd imagine a lot going to fleets moreso than a premium car like the Mazda 3 or VW Golf. Ratt is there a breakdown of what models go where?

Its pretty understanding why the Fiesta is being outsold. The only thing its best at at its class is handling and most people buying in that class aren't that interested in performance.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:51 PM   #6
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Just looking at Mitsubishi sales, Colt is doing horribly. Need to lift their game there. Still massive supply issues with new Lancer too. Already EVO 10 is delayed in Aus from March to August now. MASSIVE demand in Japan and US, same for base Lancer.

How is Aurion/Camry going, and also Kluger?
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Very interesting that the Ranger is outselling the BT-50.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:00 PM   #8
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Very interesting that the Ranger is outselling the BT-50.
And Rodeo.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:08 PM   #9
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Holden Epica sales, less than "epic"
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:02 PM   #10
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Very interesting that the Ranger is outselling the BT-50.
At the cost of the RTV and Falcon ute though, Falcon wagon too in several instances, Ranger makes a very good 2nd family car...so obviously does Hilux.
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Go the Focus outselling the Astra! How long has that been happening for? I'd imagine a lot going to fleets moreso than a premium car like the Mazda 3 or VW Golf. Ratt is there a breakdown of what models go where?

Its pretty understanding why the Fiesta is being outsold. The only thing its best at at its class is handling and most people buying in that class aren't that interested in performance.
Read prev. that Mazda3 actually outsells Corolla in the private market.
Drove past a hertz ex hire car sales yard..pretty obvious where all the yaris, camry and corolla's go.

Mondeo sales would jump up big time if they had the Turbodiesel auto wagon here. Would like to see how many VW Passat TDI wagon v sedans are sold - know several that replaced Terri TS and Ghias.

BTW thanks once again RATT for posting these VFacts up, good show.

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Old 05-05-2008, 05:25 PM   #12
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Some more interesting stats:

Total Market 2008 2007
Passenger Private
Diesel 1,801 1,183
Hybrid 129 103
LPG 58 27
Petrol 23,310 24,051
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:29 PM   #13
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The most critical segment: up 26%

Citroen C4 108
Dodge Caliber 56
Fiat Ritmo 23
Ford Focus 1,465
Holden Astra 1,154
Holden Viva 467
Honda Civic 1,619
Hyundai Elantra 297
Hyundai i30 994
Kia Cerato 163
Mazda3 2,811
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,317
Nissan Tiida 741
Peugeot 307 56
Peugeot 308 201
Proton Gen.2 26
Proton Persona 57
Renault Megane 43
Skoda Roomster 14
Subaru Impreza 952
Suzuki Liana 3
Suzuki SX4 267
Toyota Corolla 3,722
Toyota Prius 281
Volkswagen Golf 1,083
Volkswagen New Beetle 64
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I really don't understand why people buy Diesels now, I mean Diesel has gone up like 30c in the last 6 months and ATM is 30c dearer than Petrol. On a 70L tank fillup, that's $21 difference! Ridiculous.
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I really don't understand why people buy Diesels now, I mean Diesel has gone up like 30c in the last 6 months and ATM is 30c dearer than Petrol. On a 70L tank fillup, that's $21 difference! Ridiculous.
I drive a TDCi Mondeo and I can see the point. I average 8.5l/100km driving in an urban area, ie stop start traffic and the odd good run. I average 2500km per month and fill up 3 times with plenty left over on the third tank before the months out.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:42 PM   #16
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i can understand why the Ranger is selling so well, its a bloody awsome ute!
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:41 PM   #17
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I drive a TDCi Mondeo and I can see the point. I average 8.5l/100km driving in an urban area, ie stop start traffic and the odd good run. I average 2500km per month and fill up 3 times with plenty left over on the third tank before the months out.
But 8.5l/100 is the average for any smaller 4cyl car (CJ lancer, Mazda 3 etc) and they're paying 30c/l less than you are, so where's the advantage?
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But 8.5l/100 is the average for any smaller 4cyl car (CJ lancer, Mazda 3 etc) and they're paying 30c/l less than you are, so where's the advantage?
Let's look at it this way. First of all I doubt a Mazda 3 or Lancer will acheive 8.5l around town. Focus has the same 2.0l engine as the 3 and I've seen the economy figures. Lancer and Corolla for that matter are'nt any better. Secondly, they are a smaller car. If you use the Focus TDCi then that's a fair comaparison as it will consistanly be in the 7.0-8.0 range.
Mondeo has a bigger back seat, boot and is about 200kg heavier.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:46 PM   #19
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can we get a top 20 or 30, cheers ratt
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Top 20 all up?
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:05 PM   #21
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Interesting to see Toyota Hilux take the top rank for the first time in history - also first time for a ute to take out number 1... Followed by Corolla then Commodore.

Toyota is an unstoppable powerhouse. 24% market share so far this year.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:07 PM   #22
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yeah all brands
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:30 AM   #23
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1. Toyota Hilux 3814
2. Toyota Corolla 3722
3. Holden Commodore 3324
4. Mazda 3 2811
5. Toyota Camry 2137
6. Toyota Yaris 2063
7. Ford Falcon 1884
8. Toyota Aurion 1861
9. Nissan Navara 1684
10. Honda Civic 1619
11. Ford Ranger 1520
12. Ford Focus 1465
13. Hyundai Getz 1448
14. Mitsubishi Triton 1421
15. Mitsubishi Lancer 1317
16. Holden Ute 1269
17. Toyota Kluga 1268
18. Toyota RAV4 1191
19. Holden Astra 1154
20. Mazda 2 1140
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Thanks for the stats RATT ! Hows the Toy company, 7 in the Top 20.....

So Fords strangle with the ute is over I see, 877 to 1269 to the General.

Camry and Aurion combined is formidible, new Lancer has taken off well.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:04 AM   #25
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Oops, just realised I left Rodeo out.

1. Toyota Hilux 3814
2. Toyota Corolla 3722
3. Holden Commodore 3324
4. Mazda 3 2811
5. Toyota Camry 2137
6. Toyota Yaris 2063
7. Ford Falcon 1884
8. Toyota Aurion 1861
9. Nissan Navara 1684
10. Honda Civic 1619
11. Ford Ranger 1520
12. Holden Rodeo 1515
13. Ford Focus 1465
14. Hyundai Getz 1448
15. Mitsubishi Triton 1421
16. Mitsubishi Lancer 1317
17. Holden Ute 1269
18. Toyota Kluga 1268
19. Toyota RAV4 1191
20. Holden Astra 1154
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I'd be very interested to see the % Toyota sell to fleets.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:30 PM   #27
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Falcon figures out of course out due to lack of Supply

Fiesta figures are still down, very depressing- How bloody Yaris outsells it I'll never know
Focus figures look decent
Mondeo I guess is still down due to lack of supply

Top Territory and Ranger figures though, those Rangers seem to be selling themselves.

i thought the territory was down..look at the kluger with 1268 sales..rwd terri in need of upgrade very quickly.
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Thanks for the stats RATT ! Hows the Toy company, 7 in the Top 20.....

So Fords strangle with the ute is over I see, 877 to 1269 to the General.

Camry and Aurion combined is formidible, new Lancer has taken off well.
I just bought a BF II XL Ute in April. I think it is more the lack of supply rather than Holden continuing to sell more utes. The range that the dealers had left were pretty light on. If I didn't have to get the ute so soon, I probably would of hung on a little and bought a FG.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:43 PM   #29
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FORD TOTAL AU OS
8246 3845 4401
46.6% 53.4%

HOLDEN TOTAL AU OS
10187 4824 5363
47.4% 52.6%


Ford historically (from memory) has better sales of Local product than Holden
It is not so last month, but only just and understandably.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:39 PM   #30
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I can understand why Falcon sales are down with the new model here now but that Craptiva is catching up on Territory, every month it's a bit closer. Ford need to put a diesel in it and face lift it real soon!

Toyota are just about unbeatable now and not just in Aus but the world over!
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