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25-07-2006, 05:34 PM | #1 | ||
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Many of my mates have argued that installing a shift kit in an auto is faster than a manual??. I have heard that on a quarter mile automatic cars with shift kits are faster than manual but on an actual race course manual is much better. honestly i dont think this is true but can anybody confirm this?
Also what type of shift kits are considered good for automatics? regards |
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25-07-2006, 05:38 PM | #2 | ||
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a mechanical shift kit cant be put in by our local transmission place from $100-200, they are good cos they hold gears for longer....but i doubt it would be better thana manual....not by a long shot
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25-07-2006, 07:23 PM | #3 | ||
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yeh thought a manual would be better. If i were to install a shift kit what improvements would be made on a quarter mile time? would it be worth getting?
Also would a manual conversion be more ideal?if so how much will that set me back? |
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25-07-2006, 07:28 PM | #4 | ||
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For stock/mild E-series auto vs stock/mild E-series manual, the manual will out-gun the auto just about every time.
Unless you factor in a stally and short diff gears, which would tip the balance (in more powerful E-series vehicles) |
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25-07-2006, 10:57 PM | #5 | ||
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Drag car gearboxes are not just shifkitted.
At the least they have expensive and un-streetable stall converters. They're usually rebuilt with stronger internals and more bands. A shift-kit on a standard transmission will only improve shift speed. Probably won't decrease 0-100 times but would increase the feel of transmisson. I've heard of people chirping gears with shift kits installed. |
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26-07-2006, 12:08 AM | #6 | ||
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Well for race track just take a look at all the V8 Supercars, they are all manual
Drag Cars use Auto's together with a High Stall Convertor as it gives maximum torque rpm to take off with. So Race Track Manual would be faster and Straight Line Drag an Auto would be quicker - we are talking a race prepped Auto here - not some lagging Ford 4 speed Auto Put a good shift Kit and high stall convertor in the Auto and a manual would not be faster in a straight line PS I have "chirped" into 2nd in my std Fairmont 6cyl with std Ford 4 Speed Auto with suffed soleniod so a shift kit will make it "chirp"
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26-07-2006, 10:43 AM | #7 | ||
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yeah the old BTR's have enough issues without adding more stress
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26-07-2006, 09:42 PM | #8 | ||
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I put a shift kit in my V8 when it was an auto but it still has that 2nd gear that seems to go on for ever. Since putting in a manual, well, there is no substitute really.
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27-07-2006, 04:56 PM | #9 | ||
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can you buy shift kits from transmission places ?
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27-07-2006, 08:30 PM | #10 | |||
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Electronic ones: ebay or www.mechanicalforums.com |
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27-07-2006, 11:04 PM | #11 | ||
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depends what you rather really. i always liked the saying 'Autos are for people who can't power shift'. mechanical shift kits won't work in the btr i think?
manual cars have the advantage of taking off at the best rpm and being able to shift at the best rpm. yet a have a modified btr so yeah. pete j |
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27-07-2006, 11:42 PM | #12 | |||
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Auto + stall = best take off, regarding finding the optimum launch time. But I won't go into splitting hairs with regard to say a 3.08 + auto combo vs say a 4.11 + manual combo (of course the manual in this case would launch quicker, assuming both motors are stock I6s) |
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28-07-2006, 12:46 AM | #13 | |||
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