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So boss says "go to powdercoaters, pick up a steel staircase, meet me at this address. Its sitting on pallets because its so awkward and heavy so just fork it straight on".
In the small work truck, ends up about 1.2m past the end of the tray. Not feasable to turn it over when its only a couple km trip and risk dropping or dinging it (about 800kg). Put a flag on it and hope Im under 60% (looks wise its not too bad). Of course route goes straight past a Vicroads office and they got me. Boss comes down and immediately "why did you put it on like that?" and, Ive been with the guy for 5 years so I was pretty amazed he turned on me like that in front of them. Turns out the end of the tray is the axle overhang limit which yes, I should have measured and known, I got complacent. Anyway, anything over 1m overhang now has mandatory court appearance and this is 1.2m. Anyone know what I can expect? Ive got a totally clean driving history if it helps. Edit- This is being handled by the NHVR because the truck is over 4.5t gvm and Ive got a hr license. |
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Wirlankarra yanama
Join Date: May 2006
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In my world, as assessment would have been made and you would have been given a warning.
But in Victoria, a cash strapped, autocratic police state, where nearly everyone is treated as a criminal. Court will be told that you have endanger the entire Galaxy (move over Thamos). You will likely get a fine and demerit points, which will impact upon your insurance rating. If on the other hand you were wearing a veil over your face nothing would have been said. |
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Agree. Its a shame I dont smoke meth. They probably would have offered to help us install it too.
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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The thing which I made vocal to my boss is yeah, work car, however as the driver it's my licence. I had to really drill it into a couple of guys I work with because when told to go get a 1500kg lift from kennards in their Van's which have a towing rating of only 1200kgs they can get done. I bought that up but only fighting for myself not anyone else with the boss and with a few other factors I got an upgrade to a car with 2.5t rating. If you bring up something like that your boss cant say just do it, and if they do get it in writing. So really all I'm saying is there is some personal responsibility in knowing what you can or cannot do as the driver because at the end of the day it's your license and if it's something you agreed to do in a work vehicle, you accept the liability.
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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First of all you boss is a proper pratt!
Who took the staircase to the powder coaters initially and in what vehiçle,? You followed your employers instructions and he should of told the inspector that,I would use that as a defence in court and your boss should pay all costs, fines etc including a solicitor. I feel sorry for you, and you now know your boss is not loyal to his workers,but as usual you are loyal to him, typical of a greedy and selfish, self serving *****. All the best in court,let us know how you get on! Cheers Billy. |
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Dont forget to drop the fine on the bosses desk as you walk past.
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I realise that, its my stuff up. I should have said no. But I didnt. Hopefully some of the blame comes back to the business, but yes as the driver, the car/truck and anything on it is your own responsibility. Dont care about the fines, so long as no, or few points.
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I also understand pressure from bosses. I note the boss didn't supply a truck big enough to do the job legally. Catch 22.
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it may sound harsh, and you probably felt stupid as soon as you got done, but the 'she'll be right, its just up the road' attitude is still too prevalent in my view. you see a lot worse than exceeding overhang by 200mm most days of the week. I guess you made their job easy for them by driving past their office. |
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Just need to watch people leaving Bunnings carpark!
I’m guilty of this myself. But how else do you get 6m lengths of timber home from Bunnings without an overhang when all you have is roof racks or a 7 foot trailer haha |
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An important part of the transport industry, however, quite often exploited by employers who use it to pass the buck when **** goes south. The old, do it like this, until something goes wrong at which point it becomes, why didnt you use your initiative. I had a situation where i questioned a forkie at our depot about how he loaded some pallets, when i got back after my run i was grilled by the warehouse manager for daring to question her forkies expertise. A few weeks later he put a pallet of grog on one side of my tray by itself and went on to his next load. I angled it and strapped it but i knew it wouldn't stand up for long as the pressures applied werent equal due to being offset. Anyway the load fell over, not hard as it was well wrapped but it ended up leaning on the curtain without any breakage. I repacked it when i got to the drop and all was good but when i got back to the depot i explained what had happened to the manager who went off because apparently i shouldnt have accepted the load as it was put on, i should have had a stack of empty pallets put next to it, which is true, however, i was like, but you said not to question your forkies expertise, doesnt matter she said, COR says your responsible ![]() |
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Yep, 4.5T and over, driver responsible, can't go shifting the blame to anyone else.
Go to court and argue your case otherwise.
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Truck driver Truck owner Fork lift driver Fork lift supervisor Warehouse owner Etc Etc I got out of running a warehouse just after all this crap came in. We just had a WHS audit, and my current boss puts it this way, as a director, if a staff member is injured/killed on duty, he is deemed guilty until he proves he is innocent.This is why we need to spend a day being tought how to correctly climb a ladder.
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No one was killed or injured and the easiest one to prosecute is the driver.
COR, Next they will be fining the guy who built the stairway because it was to big !
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With a clean record you should be able to get a 6 month good behavioral .
just be aware you can get in a whole lot deeper getting caught for anything in that 6 months
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Really? Did you notice the offender was a male but your suggesting that somebody doing their job is the problem? It's the 'tough guy she'll be right bravo bs' that is responsible for thousands of workplace related deaths every year. To the OP, go to court, explain the importance of your job, that you've been there for 5 years and your driving record. I would be surprised if you got a fine.
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I just note that females working in a male dominant industry always have something to prove. And I actually understand it can be difficult for them to be a female supervisor to a majority male workforce. But what tends to happen is that if they show signs of weakness or being ‘soft’ the men won’t take her serious, so quite often they over compensate. I work in a 95% male industry myself, and we have a few females in positions of power and they do tend to work harder to establish their leadership. |
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When she bagen her rise up the ladder the company was one of if not the biggest in the state, when she was sent packing it was on the verge of a takeover, she burned so many customers she couldnt buy a contract im told. Karma i say ![]() |
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I also work in a majority male industry, there is one female supervisor at work and tbh she is great. Having said that, when I worked in a majority female industry, the female supervisors were worse than satan.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Wow. You need to chill out.
Is aunt flow in town? Jesus.. Last edited by GasoLane; 12-08-2018 at 06:15 PM. Reason: Quoting deleted post |
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