MP's car seized under HOON laws.

jaydee · 08-09-2007, 10:47 PM

A Liberal MP here in Perth had her car seized after her son was caught driving it at 110 in a 60 and he was pished.
The car is a government car and apparently family members are allowed to use them.
Good to see our tax dollars being put to good use.
But how come someone who isn't in government (Shadow Minster for Tourism), gets a tax payer funded car.
Politicians really know how to look after each other.
What sort of car you ask? whadda ya think, thats right a dunnydoor.
I wonder who will pay the fee to get it out of the impound yard, tax dollars again probably as it's a government car.

TwistedEL · 08-09-2007, 11:33 PM

That's a good laugh.
doubt the tax payers will foot that bill. Fines etc are the responsibility of the driver.

fangq · 09-09-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedEL

That's a good laugh.
doubt the tax payers will foot that bill. Fines etc are the responsibility of the driver.

I'm surprised they haven't run it straight to cabinet.
eg http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...14/1108781.htm

Steve

Bucknaked · 09-09-2007, 09:08 AM

Happened here in the ACT many years ago. The chief Minister got done DUI. Not sure of her reading, but she was over the limit.

jdg · 09-09-2007, 12:04 PM

My guess would be it is a salary sacrifice car

Outbackjack · 09-09-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jdg

My guess would be it is a salary sacrifice car

According the the news story it is a government car. So the only salaries that are being sacrificed are yours and mine!!!

Green X · 09-09-2007, 12:21 PM

Oh get off it, one of owe friends is a senator, he left a very promising career in the privet sector to go and do something that he always wanted to do and took close to a $200,000 pay cut to do it, now has less benefits makes less money and has to do more work.

We all sit hear a bag these guys out, but who hear would want there Job, i sure wouldn't do it.

As for her son, why does it matter. I am more ****ed about the stupid rail way the Labor government is building that is a few 100,000,000 over budget, lets all get caught up on a $40,000 car yeah that's the real issue.

ya never heard about the Government funded SS commodore that some WA heath department sinor boss had (Not going to say what one) had as his work car and his son wrote off did we. The kicker is he approved the SS Commodore for himself but it isn't on the list of government cars for him.

olfella · 09-09-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

Happened here in the ACT many years ago. The chief Minister got done DUI. Not sure of her reading, but she was over the limit.

She never got pinged!! She drove to her office and locked herself in. Some sort of imunity and the coppers could not touch her. By the time she come out she was sober...

Jeeepers · 09-09-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Green X

Oh get off it, one of owe friends is a senator, he left a very promising career in the privet sector to go and do something that he always wanted to do and took close to a $200,000 pay cut to do it, now has less benefits makes less money and has to do more work.

We all sit hear a bag these guys out, but who hear would want there Job, i sure wouldn't do it.

As for her son, why does it matter. I am more ****ed about the stupid rail way the Labor government is building that is a few 100,000,000 over budget, lets all get caught up on a $40,000 car yeah that's the real issue.

ya never heard about the Government funded SS commodore that some WA heath department sinor boss had (Not going to say what one) had as his work car and his son wrote off did we. The kicker is he approved the SS Commodore for himself but it isn't on the list of government cars for him.

Whether it's a car or a railway network, Labor or Liberal.. Who cares? It's our dollars being blown and abused. Money has no politics, just bad management. And it will never stop.

Bucknaked · 09-09-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by olfella

She never got pinged!! She drove to her office and locked herself in. Some sort of imunity and the coppers could not touch her. By the time she come out she was sober...

I'm glad to see the back of Carnell.

RSgerry · 09-09-2007, 01:46 PM

And when asked if her son would be allowed use of the car again, her response was "we will have to duscuss it". WTF??? There is nothing to discuss. the answe should be a straight no. The kid was pi55ed, doing 110 in a 60 zone on Canning Hwy. It is now simple. She loses her car. Buy your own like the rest of us.

But, pollies will look after their own and the car will be returned and she will do the good leftie thing and discuss the situation with her son and let her know how disappointed she is. I wonder if mr carpenter will like to see this car crushed nto a cube and dropped on her lawn??? Or has he realised how stupid that statement was???

Green X · 09-09-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ORSMT

Whether it's a car or a railway network, Labor or Liberal.. Who cares? It's our dollars being blown and abused. Money has no politics, just bad management. And it will never stop.

It's Job and a management position, and like allot of management positions it comes with "perks" a Company car or Work car is one of those. Do people really expect Poliititions to work for free and ride on Public transport.

and if it will never stop what's the point of belly aching about it all the time, accept it as chit happens and move on.

I bet nobody who is given a company car and Fuel card in the privet sector wingers about it, same deal only the people lower them in the company are paying for it with there Blood and sweet and lower wagers instead of the general public.

Outbackjack · 09-09-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Green X

It's Job and a management position, and like allot of management positions it comes with "perks" a Company car or Work car is one of those. Do people really expect Poliititions to work for free and ride on Public transport.

and if it will never stop what's the point of belly aching about it all the time, accept it as chit happens and move on.

I bet nobody who is given a company car and Fuel card in the privet sector wingers about it, same deal only the people lower them in the company are paying for it with there Blood and sweet and lower wagers instead of the general public.

Back when I had a company car (not that long ago), if one of my kids were driving it at above the speed limit and p1ssed, I would loose the use of the car. That is the difference between the private sector and the public sector (once you get your face into the MP trough, funded by you and me.) This woman will probably use taxi's for 48 hours and charge it to the tax payer, and do the same with the impound fee's.
Most MP's like to treat themselves as royalty. They quickly for get the "servant" in public servant!!!

Jeeepers · 09-09-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Green X

I bet nobody who is given a company car and Fuel card in the privet sector wingers about it, same deal only the people lower them in the company are paying for it with there Blood and sweet and lower wagers instead of the general public.

Buddy, I pay $500 a week in taxes. And much more in other excises and such. And I am just a Truck Driver. My boss drives an SL55 AMG, he earned it. Didn't get it as a perk. And built the company up from scratch. I have, and continue to pay for my right to gripe. While I see your point, telling hardcore taxpayers to stop whining about how it's spent is a brave call. Incidents such as this one get my back up, as do the spendatures on a luncheon that would pay for my house. While I agree they do a highly stressful job at times, I think they too could set an example and tighten a belt or two. I have seen them come and seen them go, and after 41 years of paying my taxes, I'll say what I please against any missuse of public funds.

No malice intended to you personally, you opinion is as valid as mine.

Laminge · 09-09-2007, 03:22 PM

I have no problem them using the car, nor members of the family

However, if they or their family are caught for any infringement, in this case serious, then stuff em, use their own vehicles.

Outbackjack · 09-09-2007, 03:29 PM

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And I am just a Truck Driver. .

You shouldn't sell yourself short. It's people like you that keep this country moving (pun intended). We could get by without politicians, but they would be stuffed without all us humble tax payers.

Jeeepers · 09-09-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

You shouldn't sell yourself short. It's people like you that keep this country moving (pun intended). We could get by without politicians, but they would be stuffed without all us humble tax payers.

I am proud of what I do, don't worry about that.

Although we still need leaders, they should be in touch with who they lead, how they get payed and who funds it.

Bill M · 09-09-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Green X

It's Job and a management position, and like allot of management positions it comes with "perks" a Company car or Work car is one of those. Do people really expect Poliititions to work for free and ride on Public transport.

and if it will never stop what's the point of belly aching about it all the time, accept it as chit happens and move on.

I bet nobody who is given a company car and Fuel card in the privet sector wingers about it, same deal only the people lower them in the company are paying for it with there Blood and sweet and lower wagers instead of the general public.

Maybe you should look into what politicians actually get, and the lucrative oportunities that are available to many of them after political life. If you want people to shed tears over a pollies workload you'll have to do better than that. Didn't the Federal pollies recently award themselves an 8% payrise? Don't mention the superannuation!

fmc351 · 09-09-2007, 07:28 PM

Politicians in the bottom of the harbour, historically its a good start.

I have no idea what that means, so dont ask.

Green X · 09-09-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill M

Maybe you should look into what politicians actually get, and the lucrative oportunities that are available to many of them after political life. If you want people to shed tears over a pollies workload you'll have to do better than that. Didn't the Federal pollies recently award themselves an 8% payrise? Don't mention the superannuation!

I never said people should shed a tear over there workload.

Mate allot of these people leave Lucrative Jobs when they become members, and it isn't exactly a Holiday getting in to begin with. i am not saying they are all good people who do everything right, to be honest allot of em are dogs and every party is full of back stabbers and people with there own engender, but there are some who are there because they want to do the Job and try to serve as well as they can.

They don't award themselves pay rises, There pay is adjusted the same as evrybody else's by a revue board or whatever you want to call it, then like always you can either take it or leave it, now if you were offered a pay rise would you turn it down, I bloody well doubt it.

RSgerry · 09-09-2007, 11:18 PM

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They don't award themselves pay rises, There pay is adjusted the same as evrybody else's by a revue board or whatever you want to call it, then like always you can either take it or leave it, now if you were offered a pay rise would you turn it down, I bloody well doubt it.

I wouldnt turn down a pay rise, but neither mine nor nobody else's pay is decided by a review board. we have to negotiate it.

with our employer.

directly.

our hospital staff in WA recently had to strike to get $1 per hour increase. that's right, no typo, ONE DOLLAR an hour. these people are employed by our state government. the pay rise takes their rate to $18 an hour. and our politicians lie, steal and give their cars to drunken kids and we pay for it. they also got a 3 / 4% pay rise in the last few weeks. now, if you can show me what our state government and invisible opposition did to deserve this, I will give you a cracker. if you can show me that they deserve their pay rise more than a hospital worker, policeman or nurse, I will give you two crackers.

so, back on topic. do you think that it is okay for a public servant, paid for by the taxpayer can give her publicly funded car to a drunk driver who has no regard for raod rules, common sense or other road users?

yift · 09-09-2007, 11:35 PM

green x by the look at your spelling and grammer its no wonder the state governments spend so much more money on private schools than government schools!

cowboy · 10-09-2007, 02:44 PM

I don't begrudge politicians a company car but do get annoyed when their kids are out hooning around on our dollar. If he wants to lair around in a new car, save up and buy one like the rest of us!!

irlewy86 · 10-09-2007, 02:56 PM

I don't see any problem with granting ministers and even shadow ministers car.

But here is my problem, I have a company car. If any of my family members were caught speeding while drunk behind the wheel of the car, I would be sacked on the spot. I'm not to sure there are too many private business' that wouldn't do the same.

Smoke Pursuit · 10-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Do they pay FBT on their government supplied cars?? Im not sure but Id be interested to see... If this is the case then id be cool with it, but if they get these cars and use them freely with no tax implications for themselves, or the government (the rest of us have to log books etc) then id be annoyed. If they dont pay FBT then they really shouldnt be using them for personal use should they..

cowboy · 10-09-2007, 03:02 PM

I had a company car for years and NO ONE else was allowed to drive it. Not even partners. Violation of this meant dismissal.

Outbackjack · 10-09-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Do they pay FBT on their government supplied cars?? Im not sure but Id be interested to see... If this is the case then id be cool with it, but if they get these cars and use them freely with no tax implications for themselves, or the government (the rest of us have to log books etc) then id be annoyed. If they dont pay FBT then they really shouldnt be using them for personal use should they..

I dont think that they do pay FBT. That would be like the government imposing a tax on itself.

Jeeepers · 10-09-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

I dont think that they do pay FBT. That would be like the government imposing a tax on itself.

Hehehehe, and if they did pay it, they would just create an allowance to cover it...