Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25-11-2016, 09:04 AM   #1
amiers
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 976
Default Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Buying a new daily driver. just cant make my mind which one.!

14/15 HSV GRANGE $50-55K

14/15 SRT-8 $35 - 45K

09/10 C 63 $55 - 70K

Thoughts?
__________________
2018 Mustang GT
amiers is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 09:22 AM   #2
nstg8a
3..2..1..
 
nstg8a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bellbird park
Posts: 7,218
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

I'd go the grange mostly because it would be the rarest of the three, and possibly the cheapest to maintain.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pottery beige View Post
Happy mcgadget meal orphan mcboofhead
nstg8a is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 09:25 AM   #3
Sioso
irregular member
 
Sioso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,457
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Have you driven the SRT8?
I rented a new 300 C 3.6L recently while on holidays and found it to be woeful, considering the external size it had a cramped foot-well, the 8 speed auto was jumping all over the place, foot brake had a ton of play in it, handled like a boat, switchgear felt cheap and sloppy - even with the Hemi there is no way I could own one of them.
Sioso is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 09:41 AM   #4
Vesper Martini
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Vesper Martini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 7,854
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Three V8 Sedans and that's where the similarities end.
__________________
______________________________
2015 Territory Titanium RWD Diesel - SOLD
2016 BMW X5 xdrive 30D Msport
Seadoo Challenger 210SE 310HP
Vesper Martini is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 09:56 AM   #5
mike_nofx
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mike_nofx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,125
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

What are your thoughts? You're the one willing to lay down up to $70k here.
What do you need in a car, and what are your pros and cons with each?
mike_nofx is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 09:58 AM   #6
lownloud
Ford Junkie
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canberra...
Posts: 361
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Grange would get my vote. Mainly because if something broke I'd probably have to sell a child to pay to fix it with the others....
__________________
When you are wondering where the Aussie car industry went just walk out the front of your house and look what's parked in your driveway. Are you part of the reason it's gone?
lownloud is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 10:17 AM   #7
Stefan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,193
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Fordforums....

Buy and FPV F6, better in every way than any of those sh!!tters.
Stefan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 10:20 AM   #8
Grunter
Not of the Sooty variety!
Donating Member3
 
Grunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On a Shrinking Planet
Posts: 1,817
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Assuming no warranty.

HSV 1st, SRT8 2nd and a long way to 3rd with the C63.
__________________
"To be afraid is to be alive - to act against that fear is to be a person of courage."


Current
The Toy: 2002 AUIII TS50
The Daily and Tow Vehicle: 2016 VW Amarok
Grunter is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 11:21 AM   #9
Express
Bathed In A Yellow Glow
 
Express's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NSW Central Coast
Posts: 2,530
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

If I was willing to spend up to $70k on a daily driver I'd be looking at a new car with warranty.

Plenty of variety available in that price range.
Express is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
6 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 11:41 AM   #10
xr6-FTW
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
xr6-FTW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 745
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Get the grange as it won't f you in the rear when things decide to go wrong. Past bmw parts experience tells me to steer clear of most bmws when there older, second hand. Same would apply to the Mercedes, and the Chrysler, meh its nothing special. I'm a ford man but the grange has the goods in this case. Gets my tick for parts availability and also being a local car. Plus its got pretty up to date tech also.
xr6-FTW is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 01:13 PM   #11
davenl5l
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
davenl5l's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: by the beach
Posts: 1,982
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Stillget a fgx xr8 sprint for $70,000 or a new xr8 with change
__________________
clevo mafia (sadly sold) 351c xe manual (now with short shifting 5sp goodness) xc gs coupe project...hmm more clevo for me new daily 2005 ba sr
davenl5l is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 02:38 PM   #12
malazn mafia
Boss 335
 
malazn mafia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,330
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sioso View Post
Have you driven the SRT8?
I rented a new 300 C 3.6L recently while on holidays and found it to be woeful, considering the external size it had a cramped foot-well, the 8 speed auto was jumping all over the place, foot brake had a ton of play in it, handled like a boat, switchgear felt cheap and sloppy - even with the Hemi there is no way I could own one of them.
Rented one in the states for peanuts ($50 per day). Thing had full glass roof, beats audio sound system, and that 8spd/3.6L had more than enough power, and it was quicker than a rental mustang. The interior was no worse than the claustrophobic FG inteiror. For outright interior space, AU & EL win hands down .
malazn mafia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 03:20 PM   #13
bingoTE50
Steve
 
bingoTE50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sth East Qld
Posts: 1,284
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Focus rs
__________________
Currently no Fords . 2005 Statesman International 5.7, Mazda 2 and a Hilux.
Former Fords: 2010 Ford Escape 2007 BF11 GT, TE50 Series 1 ,AU V8 One Tonner ,EL Falcon Wagon, ED Fairmont , EB Falcon Series 1. Mk 2 Cortina
Company Fords : 3 BA Falcons , EB 11 Falcon Wagon , Ford F350 351 V8.
bingoTE50 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 04:37 PM   #14
kinksta
Luxojet
 
kinksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,883
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

+1 for the Grange..

BUUUT imho

G6ET/F6 with $5-10g thrown at it for power mods
__________________
Rides:
-Toyota Blade Master G.
-Ford G6ET (that will be for sale)
kinksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 04:48 PM   #15
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,549
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

+1 for Grange, based on Holden Caprice, easy to fix.
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 05:08 PM   #16
Big_Daz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brisbane (Southside)
Posts: 1,172
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Out of those 3?? Id go the C63, epic cars those...

But for $70oddk, I would be at a HSV dealer trying to get a mad deal on an VF2 Clubby R8, or even the SV (limited edition with the 340kw LS3) can be had for less than $70k...
__________________
2008 FG XR6 Turbo ZF In Sensation - Gone, but not Forgotten....

Hers: 2024 Ford Everest Platinum in Equinox Bronze
His Daily: 2020 (MY21) Kia Sorento GT-Line in Mineral Blue
His Weekender: 2017 Commodore SSV Redline manual in Light My Fire Orange
Big_Daz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 05:40 PM   #17
mcnews
Trev
 
mcnews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Was Perth, now country Vic
Posts: 8,017
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Trev has owned several boosted fords and has really contributed a lot of info on them. His posts in the bike section are also very helpful. I think he should be recognised as a technical contributor. 
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Others are nice but no way I would be risking them out of warranty.

I went GT-E and a Grange is only other one I would look at secondhand to be honest.

C63 had massive engine failure rate in earlier ones too, probably cost more than another C63 to fix...

STR-8 is completely unappealing to me these days, reckon they have aged terribly. Now when they bring Challenger SRT-8 Down Under it will be a different story!

C63 would be great if you had the 25k spare laying around for if something goes bang in a big way.

I think at that budget though I would be looking to bargain on a new HSV wagon with all the fruit as a practial fun everyday ride. If you can't get one of those low enough then a new SS-V wagon with as much on it as you can get. I think at that budget that would get my coin, but a new Focus RS would be tempting too.
__________________
Trev
(FPV FG II GT-E thus the fully loaded burger with the lot as standard +Alpine/Dynamat fitout - 2 of only 4 ever made GT-E factory 9" rear rims - Michelin Pilot Supersports - Shockworks Suspension)
mcnews is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 05:56 PM   #18
bangm001
Mopar! But Own F6's..
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: F6DELAIDE
Posts: 3,213
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Buy a near new FG turbo, or something like a VF SSV for much cheaper than your originals... Would be under factory warranty and much cheaper than any you mentioned long term. Granges drive like boats and thats the best of the 3 you have.
__________________
F6 TYPHOON
FPV 335 GT
bangm001 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 06:26 PM   #19
danzvtil
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
danzvtil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,615
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE SRT new or demo. You'll get a huge discount at the moment, but you'll need every bit of the factory warranty from what I've heard......
__________________
____________________

2019 LDV G10
2009 Mitsubishi Express-GONE
2011 Honda Jazz
____________________
danzvtil is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 06:41 PM   #20
FG50T
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
FG50T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 935
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

These 2 below are what I would be looking at assuming you've ruled out the F6 and GT335.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...4375019/?Cr=11

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/de...13644910/?Cr=0
FG50T is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 07:36 PM   #21
mcnews
Trev
 
mcnews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Was Perth, now country Vic
Posts: 8,017
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Trev has owned several boosted fords and has really contributed a lot of info on them. His posts in the bike section are also very helpful. I think he should be recognised as a technical contributor. 
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Quote:
Originally Posted by danzvtil View Post
Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE SRT new or demo. You'll get a huge discount at the moment, but you'll need every bit of the factory warranty from what I've heard......
20 litres+ per 100km :-)
__________________
Trev
(FPV FG II GT-E thus the fully loaded burger with the lot as standard +Alpine/Dynamat fitout - 2 of only 4 ever made GT-E factory 9" rear rims - Michelin Pilot Supersports - Shockworks Suspension)
mcnews is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 07:38 PM   #22
arronm
BA/F6 BF/F6 SSV/R TTG
 
arronm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 7,251
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

A HSV or holden VF range. Obviously supercharged V8 is the pick. VF GTS
__________________
BA BF FPV starter button repairs. PM me.


Nizpro equipped and Tuned by the BEST in the west
Xtreme Ford Tuning

479RwKw Fuel limited, more pumps and power too come.

F6#0507 & #0639 Pro racer and Tech expert

NIZPRO modifying falcons like Premcar can only dream of , see VIDEO below.
https://youtu.be/oa4IfguGQ-A
arronm is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 08:37 PM   #23
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,448
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Out of those options I'd go the Grange but I think for the money you have plenty of options including new or near new.
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 08:42 PM   #24
amiers
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 976
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Failed to mention I have a FGX- xr8 Sprint in the garage. I am leaning toward the grange as most have said , luxury, cheaper/reliable and goes well.

Have heard about the engine drama with c 63's however also been told that was fixed in 2010.

going to drive a SRT tomorrow
__________________
2018 Mustang GT
amiers is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 25-11-2016, 09:34 PM   #25
jgmdat
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 359
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnews View Post
20 litres+ per 100km :-)
More like 17 around town, which is pretty good considering the power and sound.
jgmdat is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 10:22 PM   #26
.:4:.
Kicking back
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Western sydney
Posts: 8,695
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiers View Post
Failed to mention I have a FGX- xr8 Sprint in the garage. I am leaning toward the grange as most have said , luxury, cheaper/reliable and goes well.

Have heard about the engine drama with c 63's however also been told that was fixed in 2010.

going to drive a SRT tomorrow
Keeping the sprint? Anyway, from family knowledge ( mum has had a few lower class benzes) Mercedes like to pick up loads of sensor problems early and (I'm talking about after the warrenty period) charge a mint to fix anything. When they work they work good though.Chryslers, I've only heard complaints from clients when shooting the **** about silly things like body mouldings falling of and whatever, but without seeing that in the flesh, I choose not to take it as gospel. As much as much as it is again the whole ford thing (why wasn't there a g335) my cousin did his apprenticeship with a holden dealer then moved on to a place that did fords an anything in between. This was before the 5 litre supercharged falcons and we haven't spoken since, but he said "never buy a 6 cylinder holden, and stay away from a v8 ford". As a pain as parking a lwb grange will be, and may not go as fast in a straight line, atleast only the interior electronics will crap out before the motor or the rest of the car
.:4:. is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-11-2016, 10:24 PM   #27
kinksta
Luxojet
 
kinksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,883
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Then definitely go for the Grange. Or take all three for a drive and decide. Don't forget to give us a review and comparison 😉
__________________
Rides:
-Toyota Blade Master G.
-Ford G6ET (that will be for sale)
kinksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 26-11-2016, 07:33 AM   #28
Dr Terry
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,386
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

A 9/10 C63 M/Benz with 70km is past is use by day date & @ $55K would be a very risky gamble. Definitely go the Grange.

Dr Terry
Dr Terry is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2016, 07:52 AM   #29
PHawk
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
PHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NZ
Posts: 1,675
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

F6 better than a 300 SRT...Don't think so! quicker probably, better no.
__________________
2016 SS-V Redline LS3
Previous Rides.
BA XR8, 5M
FG GT-P 315 6A
FG F6 310 6A
HSV Maloo LS3 6M
GT 335 6A
300 SRT8 Hemi 6.4
PX Ranger XLT
Commodore SS-V Redline LS3
2017 Triumph Speed Triple R
Triumph Street Triple RX
PHawk is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2016, 08:58 AM   #30
chookaradley
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 658
Default Re: Str-8 - hsv grange - c 63?

Bought my SRT8 new in 2014 and still love it. Have had no issues with it. The hemi is a beast to behold!!.
chookaradley is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL