Should I ? or Shoudlnt I? TURBO EF

DaNeoS · 15-09-2006, 06:18 PM

well was at the bank today and decided to ask about another loan, they said it would all be fine up to 8g, what yours opionions i think ill be back at the bank on monday organsing it then a visit to snort. onl thing bothering me is a few of my mates have told me snorts turbos dont last very long, has anyone had any dramas with this? was thinking egtting a kit and then getting turbo re done by someone else or do i wait to see if it plays up. and if i go the whole 8,000 could i get into the 12sec / high 11's with turbo kit with the To4e, after market computer, bigger injectors and a rebuild?
thanks in advance daneos.

snypereb · 15-09-2006, 06:25 PM

What about AVO?

DaNeoS · 15-09-2006, 06:28 PM

AVO care to elaborate? i know there a performance company? i was thinking about doing the work myself as nearly a 4th yr mechanic. i dont really care what sort of power she makes just as long as i get a reasonable time to go with the car.

efgiar · 15-09-2006, 06:34 PM

do it proply, get a stronger bottom end and headwork with a big turbo grind cam and a decent aftermarket ecu u will be wrapped, should be good for over 250 kw at the wheels depending on what amount of boost u run

snypereb · 15-09-2006, 06:38 PM

Didnt AVO do turbo tony's old car?

EFFalcon · 15-09-2006, 06:51 PM

AVO build factory turbo EA's.
they also built up his EA.

DaNeoS · 15-09-2006, 06:58 PM

i had a look, and from 8,000 i think i can get,
Turbo kit with to4e - 4000$
2nd hand wolf - 1000$
injectors - sumwehre around 1000$????
engine - new bottom end.
head work - port and polish for nothing as being in trade, only paying for springs valves etc

Sundeep · 15-09-2006, 06:59 PM

Don't get a loan and don't waste your money. In 10 years from now you'll either be like "I should have listened to Sundeep" or "I'm glad I listened to Sundeep".. mark my words :P

Sundeep

DaNeoS · 15-09-2006, 07:01 PM

yeh thats in 10 years thou, and at the moment ive always wanted a boosted e-series as nearly buying evlelf, loan isnt a issue as i will have my own bussiness end of next year so i can pay off quicker....

needfordspeed · 15-09-2006, 07:38 PM

Just do it man, you only live once, i'd recommend talking to 6BOOST for a kit if your worried about Snort's quality.

Krytox · 15-09-2006, 07:39 PM

heh, listen to Sundeep!
why not wait the year and claim it as a business expense!
rule of thumb with cars... if you haven't got it... don't do it!

EFFalcon · 15-09-2006, 08:24 PM

hxxp://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35870 <-- cheap injectors.

TURBOTAXI · 15-09-2006, 10:32 PM

I have had about 37,000k's out of snort hardware, and I have not treated it very well either.

BLKPHN · 16-09-2006, 10:54 AM

Go the turbo once you have driven it you will never want a n/a car again, the snort kit is the way i went and was very happy, and now i have decided to add injectors a AU engine and a wolf v4 to get things really going, i was driving for 2 months without a hiccup then the dreaded head started leaking but it was not caused by the extra air being forced in but old age of the gasket....

BLKPHN · 16-09-2006, 10:56 AM

oh and injectors from vpw are $630 for any of em any size 500c - 1000cc and many brands too, rochester semens bosch six of then that is...

BPXR6T · 16-09-2006, 12:22 PM

Just 10 minutes ago I fired up my first turbo e-series. I've bolted on a snort stage 3 kit. Can't wait until its finished so I can get it on the open road.

Personally I've never borrowed money for mods. With you starting up a business you'll probably need as much cash as you can get. I'd wait till the money starts rolling in.

As an alternative you could just start collecting the bits peice by peice as good deals and group buys come up.

ON_DUBS · 16-09-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundeep

Don't get a loan and don't waste your money. In 10 years from now you'll either be like "I should have listened to Sundeep" or "I'm glad I listened to Sundeep".. mark my words :P

Sundeep

I'm pretty interested if you wanna expand further on that.
Considering you own a boosted e-series.

Are you saying its a waste of money to do it?

BLKPHN · 16-09-2006, 02:56 PM

if you are going to do a boosted e-series i would recomend a snort stage 3 kit or a second hand kit, for the cost and the amount of power that can be achived for such a little cost amount is fantastic. you spend $4000 and you will probly see 190rwkw roughly the same as a ba xr6 turbo and you have only spent $10,000 in total car included. i wouldn't get a loan for such a small amount. $8000 would get you close to low 13 sec car, in my opinion. with the mods you have said.

DaNeoS · 16-09-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FourBarrel

Just 10 minutes ago I fired up my first turbo e-series. I've bolted on a snort stage 3 kit. Can't wait until its finished so I can get it on the open road.

Personally I've never borrowed money for mods. With you starting up a business you'll probably need as much cash as you can get. I'd wait till the money starts rolling in.

As an alternative you could just start collecting the bits peice by peice as good deals and group buys come up.

bussiness has been running in family for 22 years now... and i just take over ownership and managment as father going around australia. and i decided to leave it till i can pay for turbo setup out of me pocket not getting into debts

kyro_02 · 16-09-2006, 03:14 PM

sick bro, don't forget to have a cooler so you can have fullysick dose sounds

if i had money i'd get a turbo :P

Aaron_EF8 · 16-09-2006, 04:02 PM

Don't forget you'll need a transmission, tailshaft, diff, brakes, tyres, suspension work, ECU tuning, etc etc, building the motor is a relatively small part of a proper rebuild.

Duffman · 16-09-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

Don't forget you'll need a transmission, tailshaft, diff, brakes, tyres, suspension work, ECU tuning, etc etc, building the motor is a relatively small part of a proper rebuild.

I agree with Aaron I just got a turbo kit and the money spending doesn't stop there. You then need all the intercooler piping and ecu, injectors, fuel pump and dyno tuned. There are also the little things like boost guage, turbo timer and other small addon parts. If you buy quality stuff it won't be cheap. You then also have the worry you might blow your box/diff, nothing worse then not wanting to use the power because your car can't handle it. Many people have done the setup cheap (no ecu, inectors) but why spend all that money and only do half the job.

T_Terror · 16-09-2006, 09:20 PM

A loan for a turbo kit is just stupid. Seriously, spend your money and stuff that will at least have some chance of holding its value (like a car that came turbo stock).

Save the turbo falcon conversions for the big disposable income days, or better yet learn a bit about cars and buy used parts and put it together yourself.

BPXR6T · 16-09-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffman

I agree with Aaron I just got a turbo kit and the money spending doesn't stop there. You then need all the intercooler piping and ecu, injectors, fuel pump and dyno tuned. There are also the little things like boost guage, turbo timer and other small addon parts. If you buy quality stuff it won't be cheap. You then also have the worry you might blow your box/diff, nothing worse then not wanting to use the power because your car can't handle it. Many people have done the setup cheap (no ecu, inectors) but why spend all that money and only do half the job.

True, by the time I'm finished I will have easily spent over $6000. That's without opening the motor. If I had paid full retail for my turbo kit it would be an extra $1500. Stating the obvious but if you can't do the work yourself its going to cost big bucks.

It can be done on the cheap and in stages like I'm doing. You can get a turbo e-series on the road for under $5000 easy enough but it will be low boost. Personally I've budgeted $10,000 for the build. That extra $4000 is for a decent bottom end and head work.

I'll try and squeeze the driveline into that budget somehow. C4 conversion can be done a lot cheaper than the stupid $4000 price tag attached by some shops.