Gender identity, are you male, female or a space ship?

[Franco Cozzo]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rel...3581cc71279d6b

This is getting out of hand, I've got nothing against the LGBTQ community but I want to put this to our community to discuss, what are your opinions?

[EASYBOSS]

Only in Australia

[raised by monkeys]

Identity is a huge social issue. Generations exposed to bigotry and structural oppression is the reason why we see so much backlash now especially around LGBTQ - the most common forms of gender issues; but also other forms of identity too including cultural; as we now take on a more post-modernist way of critical thinking. Identity is socially constructed based around white European biases.

I see this a positive step forwards. Although the ability of choosing from 33 options A) it removes true choice; and B) it offers those who uphold oppression (overtly) to choose answers through idiocracy on a census which attempts to form an accurate picture of a nation. If the move was to be more inclusive/accepting, why not leave the question open for a persons true account of identity through their own narrative?

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

I feel for this world, it's really sad to see such stupidity

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

Identity is a huge social issue. Generations exposed to bigotry and structural oppression is the reason why we see so much backlash now especially around LGBTQ - the most common forms of gender issues; but also other forms of identity too including cultural; as we now take on a more post-modernist way of critical thinking. Identity is socially constructed based around white European biases.

I see this a positive step forwards. Although the ability of choosing from 33 options A) it removes true choice; and B) it offers those who uphold oppression (overtly) to choose answers through idiocracy on a census which attempts to form an accurate picture of a nation. If the move was to be more inclusive/accepting, why not leave the question open for a persons true account of identity through their own narrative?

This pretty much sums it up for me where todays world is going.

What hope do we have??

[raised by monkeys]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

This pretty much sums it up for me where todays world is going.

What hope do we have??

What do you mean?

[ford71V8]

I was thinking a was bigender, but I had read it as big-ender.

I don't know or care what LGBTQW#$%^&* means or stands for.

My poor kids

[4vxc]

lgbtq or whatever it is, are they the ones waving the rainbow flag or is that some other group?

[4vxc]

Love the way they say assigned at birth

[raised by monkeys]

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[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

What do you mean?

I mean it's sad to see such stupidity as outlined in the article.

Where are we going with this??

33 Genders?? Really???

We are either born male or female, it's generally pretty easy to tell the difference in most cases.

What are these people hoping to achieve??

It really makes me sad to see that society is going this way, and apparently it's all done in the name of tolerance

[Junkyard-Dog]

I gender identify as a Russian attack helicopter and I am offended.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

I gender identify as a Russian attack helicopter and I am offended.

I am offended that you are offended

It's just offensive to be so easily offended.

[raised by monkeys]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

I mean it's sad to see such stupidity as outlined in the article.

Where are we going with this??

33 Genders?? Really???

We are either born male or female, it's generally pretty easy to tell the difference in most cases.

What are these people hoping to achieve??

It really makes me sad to see that society is going this way, and apparently it's all done in the name of tolerance

This way of thinking is what it is meant as a social construction.
Tell me a little about yourself i.e. gender, age, identity, culture you identify with, values...

[raised by monkeys]

For those wish to seek another way of understanding structural oppression, I've attached an article for you.

[TheSneakiness]

Gender = Male or female

Not I'm some goddamn particulate matter floating in an ocean of nothingness but if that option isn't there I'll jump up and down like a flipping moron.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

Tell me a little about yourself i.e. gender, age, identity, culture you identify with, values...

GENDER : Was allocated a human male gender at birth but identify as a sexual free spirit in fluid motion with the outer universe and inner earth.

AGE : I feel this is a discriminatory question that will pigeon hole me into a certain age bracket when I consider myself timeless and out of this world, and I don't think I should be restricted and classified by earthly time measures which bear no relevance to the existence of my timeless inner spirit.

IDENTITY : I have no identity, I am like water a fluid motion, I am everything, but I am nothing, I am everywhere but no where.

CULTURE : I am a white hispanic aboriginal buddhist bacon eating muslim, who votes for One Nation, and believes in equal rights for sexually and culturally oppressed invertebrates.

[jpblue1000]

Well done XB just proved his point!
JP

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

GENDER : Was allocated a human male gender at birth but identify as a sexual free spirit in fluid motion with the outer universe and inner earth.

AGE : I feel this is a discriminatory question that will pigeon hole me into a certain age bracket when I consider myself timeless and out of this world, and I don't think I should be restricted and classified by earthly time measures which bear no relevance to the existence of my timeless inner spirit.

IDENTITY : I have no identity, I am like water a fluid motion, I am everything, but I am nothing, I am everywhere but no where.

CULTURE : I am a white hispanic aboriginal buddhist bacon eating muslim, who votes for One Nation, and believes in equal rights for sexually and culturally oppressed invertebrates.

As a atheist time travelling schizophrenic vegan alien from asia with a swedish sudanese heritage and also gender/prehistoric fluid relating to trees and meat eating toads, I take offense to the lack of respect for my equality needs and demand all days ending in X be given a candlelight vigil for my recognition. This is not a joke.

[Pis-ton broke]

ive only got one left nut, what does that make me?

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

I mean it's sad to see such stupidity as outlined in the article.

Where are we going with this??

33 Genders?? Really???

We are either born male or female, it's generally pretty easy to tell the difference in most cases.

What are these people hoping to achieve??

It really makes me sad to see that society is going this way, and apparently it's all done in the name of tolerance

Hate to disappoint you but it is well known in the medical world that people can be born with both genitals of male & female, it is called Ambiguous Genitalia.

Might explain why some people have trouble identifying with their own sexuality.

[Matty4]

My head hurts......

[raised by monkeys]

Point proven multiple times. Unless you're oppressed, or can at least remove yourself for a moment from a bigot's standpoint to see another view, then yes, I too fear for your children.

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

ive only got one left nut, what does that make me?

lean?

[Pis-ton broke]

we used to have this manager at work, we named him "two dicks" because you couldn,t be so stupid playing with one.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

we used to have this manager at work, we named him "two dicks" because you couldn,t be so stupid playing with one.

Be careful, that could offend people born with 2 dicks.

[chamb0]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Gender = Male or female

There's some misunderstanding out there about the terms sex, gender etc but it's recognised that there are clear differences. My wife works at the Royal Children's Hospital, which has a Gender Dysphoria unit. This is what they say about the definitions of gender, sex, transgender:

http://blogs.rch.org.au/news/2014/06...der-dysphoria/

Originally Posted by Royal Children's Hospital

With an increase in awareness of Gender Dysphoria (GD), Dr Michelle Telfer, Clinical Leader at the RCH Centre for Adolescent Health, explains the finer points of GD and the benefits of treatment for gender variant young people.

One of the first patients I looked after when I began working in the RCH Gender Clinic was Henry, an 11-year-old. Henry told me that on every birthday since he’d turned four, he’d blown out the candles on his cake and wished that his body became that of a girl. He had become sad and withdrawn at school, and ceased joining activities that he used to enjoy with his friends. Henry told me that he didn’t want anyone to call him Henry or use “he” anymore. He’d decided that the name Holly fitted better. Just using the name Holly brought the biggest smile to her face and, as we talked about how our team at RCH could help her to be who she really was, I realised how lucky I am to have such a wonderful job.

Henry’s story helps to illustrate the difference between ‘sex’ and ‘gender’, words that are often used interchangeably.

‘Sex’ refers to a person’s physical appearance, determined by their chromosomes and hormones. In contrast, ‘gender’ refers to a person’s inner sense of whether they are male, female or somewhere in between. A person is ‘transgender’ when their sex and gender do not match; when this mismatch causes severe distress, it is referred to as Gender Dysphoria (GD).

It is common for children to display gender variant behaviour. For example, some girls like to play with trucks rather than dolls, and some boys like playing dress-ups with typically female clothing. This is not always a sign of GD; only 20% will continue to display gender variant behaviour after the onset of puberty, identifying as transgender during adolescence. Over 99% of transgender adolescents continue to identify as being transgender throughout adulthood.

The health risks associated with inadequate care and support of transgender adolescents are well known. For example, Australia’s third national survey about the health and wellbeing of transgender young people (2010) found that almost half of gender questioning young people had self-harmed. 28% had attempted suicide. There are also increased rates of bullying and physical assaults perpetrated against transgender young people, with discrimination experienced in accessing medical care, educational and employment opportunities.

Throughout the Western world, the number of people coming forward for medical intervention for Gender Dysphoria is increasing. This is likely due to increasing social acceptance of gender variance and public awareness of the treatment options through positive media coverage and the internet. At RCH we have seen an increase from one new referral in 2003 to 40 new referrals during 2013, and we expect that the numbers of young people coming forward for support and assistance will continue to increase over time.

When medical treatment commences at the optimal time (during early puberty), physical and mental health outcomes are better for transgender individuals. International treatment guidelines for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria recommend a series of medical interventions that are initially fully reversible (Stage 1 treatment using medication to suspend puberty), through to partially reversible interventions (Stage 2 treatment using oestrogen or testosterone hormones) and finally irreversible surgical interventions in adulthood (after the age of 18 years).

At RCH, the Gender Dysphoria Service consists of a team of Child and Adolescent Psychiatrists, Adolescent Physicians, Endocrinologists and Gynaecologists. We work together to ensure that all young people presenting to RCH with gender concerns receive a comprehensive assessment and ongoing support.

Psychological support may include education and counselling for the child or adolescent, their family members and involvement of the school community. For those young people who decide to commence hormonal treatment, this ongoing support is considered a necessary component of their care.

People through history will have always lived with these things, now we are starting to be able to better recognise and help where needed. In recognising that they are human beings, children and adults, with struggles and hopes, let's please try our best to be kind and decent and try to understand, not to make life harder for them, even if the whole thing is very confusing for us.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by trublu

Hate to disappoint you but it is well known in the medical world that people can be born with both genitals of male & female, it is called Ambiguous Genitalia.

Might explain why some people have trouble identifying with their own sexuality.

Yes there may be one in a million, or ten million, but certainly does not justify 33 categories of sex.

May be add 'Lady Boy' for those that have traveled to Thailand

[b0son]

Originally Posted by raised by monkeys

Point proven multiple times. Unless you're oppressed, or can at least remove yourself for a moment from a bigot's standpoint to see another view, then yes, I too fear for your children.

Modern day Australia... you either buy into the narrative, or you're a bigot. You can have an opinion, so long as its the same as mine... right?

You're born male, female, or some form of intersex. Insisting you are a different gender to what your genetics determine you to be is an illness. It is medically defined as a disorder.

Why do we need to provide validation for a tiny fraction of the population? Yes, it sucks to be them, but it sucks to be a lot of people for a variety of different reasons,

Do we give schizophrenics multiple census forms, one for themselves and a few for their imaginary friends? People with MPD might want a few extras too.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by b0son

Modern day Australia... you either buy into the narrative, or you're a bigot. You can have an opinion, so long as its the same as mine... right?

You're born male, female, or some form of intersex. Insisting you are a different gender to what your genetics determine you to be is an illness. It is medically defined as a disorder.

Why do we need to provide validation for a tiny fraction of the population? Yes, it sucks to be them, but it sucks to be a lot of people for a variety of different reasons,

Do we give schizophrenics multiple census forms, one for themselves and a few for their imaginary friends? People with MPD might want a few extras too.

Suggesting any of this is just so offensive that I am past being offended

You are just a racist, sexist, bigot with a cave man mentality.

We need more people like this