WANTED 2011 FPV wheels

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 02:12 PM

Looking to buy two front wheels as fitted to 2011 FPV's with Miami 5.0lt engine.
These were 19x8 with 28 or 28.5 offset - in plain silver with no grey paint-outs or accents, in the 5 x twin-spoke design. I have the matching rear wheels with 36 offset, so really only need the fronts. Genuine buyer, no problem with freight costs etc.

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 02:22 PM

They are GTP wheels, are looking for new or used?

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 02:25 PM

Yes - a GTP. Have to be genuine Ford. Used or new, don't really care. If used, have to be good - no rash or damage etc. Bit wary of the potential price for new or NOS rims !!

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 02:36 PM

Genuine Rims are normally over $1000 each. Can possibly get you NOS for $850 each plus freight..

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 02:39 PM

I'm interested. Do they have the centre caps with them ?? Are they boxed and packed as original ??Would appreciate photos if possible.

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by James 1

I'm interested. Do they have the centre caps with them ?? Are they boxed and packed as original ??Would appreciate photos if possible.

I dont think they come with caps and nuts. They need to be ordered and yes they would be new in original packaging as they are coming through a Ford dealer. So unfortunately since I dont have in my possession i cannot get you pics.

Just found out I would need a VIN as they are on restriction and possibly may not be able to get.

PM me if you want to try.

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 03:17 PM

Don't care about the nuts. The caps are poisonously dear - and i would want to try and get them with the wheels. I understand the bit about a dealer and photos - no problem, but have to be guaranteed they are 1). Plain Silver, and 2). Front fitment with 28 - 28.5 offset.
VIN number might be a problem - I am from Qld, but working in NSW and stuck here with Covid stuff. Give it a go.

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 03:18 PM

Can you get a part number for these ??

GT450 · 27-09-2021, 03:18 PM

Good luck with this James it will probably be a futile search as most surviving wheels would be being kept by fastidious owners in case the damage any and being the silver GTP wheel will make your search harder. Jefferson Ford still have the correct style wheel but not in the finish you want. If i were you i would give it consideration if you want your GTP to be shod in genuine FPV hardware.

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by James 1

Don't care about the nuts. The caps are poisonously dear - and i would want to try and get them with the wheels. I understand the bit about a dealer and photos - no problem, but have to be guaranteed they are 1). Plain Silver, and 2). Front fitment with 28 - 28.5 offset.
VIN number might be a problem - I am from Qld, but working in NSW and stuck here with Covid stuff. Give it a go.

Part number is 811J1007CA, they are 19x8 not sure about the offset (rears are 19x9). Listed in catalogue as GTP. Centre caps you have a choice of two genuine FPV in blue or black, both around the $180 mark each..

Up to you...

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 03:35 PM

The 19x9 were an R-Spec rear fitment. Standard GT/GT-P fitment was 19x8 all-round but with a different offset (36) on the back - same idea as for BA & BF.
I don't want to get into all that though - just want to make sure I am looking at plain silver rims with the 28 - 28.5 offset for the front.
To be honest, I think the wider offset rear rims would fit OK on the front of an FG without fouling the guards like they did in the BA's. but not entirely certain.
If I can't swing a deal with the caps - fair enough.

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 03:48 PM

Here are all the FG2 19" Wheels available, you can decide which one you want. I do not belive that the front wheels are any different to the rear in terms of off set unless you have the staggered 19x8/19x9 like they did on R Spec, GTF and FGX XR8/Sprint, but I could be wrong.

FG2 19 Wheels 1.PNG

FG2 19 Wheels 2.PNG

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 03:57 PM

I don't really want to get into long-winded back-and-forth about all this, but I have owned a number of GT-P's in all models and they have all had different offsets front and back - 28 and 36 +/-.
If you look closely at the listings you will see some of them are named as front or rear - which is a bit of a give-away.
The offset is cast into the back of the rims. Is it possible for the dealer to simply look at the back of the wheel and let us know what is on it ??

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 04:02 PM

Can try and get images but dealer does not have stock, will need to come out of Ford themselves.

All the wheels labelled rear are 19x9s.

Let me see what i can find out..

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 04:12 PM

As I said - don't want to argue about any of this. But if you look you will see some of the 19x8's labelled as front only - so something is going on there. I should think Ford and their dealerships should know this information - but I have spoken to dealerships and generally they have no idea what they are talking about, unfortunately.
I don't need an image or photo - just someone to look and confirm the offset marked in the casting. Should not be difficult.

GTLEGEND · 27-09-2021, 05:40 PM

Hey mate, not arguing just pointing out what is shown on the catalogue so we can try to get you the right ones.

I have asked my contact for the information, see what they come back with.

Yes there are wheels there with front only written in it and from what I can see is for vehicles that have the staggered front/rear so you don't accidentally order the rear for the front or vice versa.

Lets see what they come back with and we can go from there.

Which colour caps were you chasing also? Blue or Black.

What part of NSW are you stuck in?

James 1 · 27-09-2021, 05:48 PM

That's all OK. It's just that I know exactly what I am looking for, which is why I gave the precise description and photograph right at the start. I have owned these cars and do know how they were specified. Unfortunately catalogue listings do not tell the whole story. And the dates on the side of the listings can be misleading.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. And thanks for your efforts so far.

GTLEGEND · 28-09-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by James 1

That's all OK. It's just that I know exactly what I am looking for, which is why I gave the precise description and photograph right at the start. I have owned these cars and do know how they were specified. Unfortunately catalogue listings do not tell the whole story. And the dates on the side of the listings can be misleading.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. And thanks for your efforts so far.

Confirm all silver..

Writing on rear of wheel is 19x8J(ISO) 36.5P 81281007AA 81171007AC/CB/FA

James 1 · 28-09-2021, 08:03 PM

Alright - that's what they've got. I'm not against the wider offset, as later FG's and FGX's had the wider offset fitted to them front and back - but I am wary and don't want to waste money on something that might not be right. I am 100% certain about the offsets on BA/BF GT's and GTP's, and 95% sure about the same applying to early 5.0lt FG's.
And I am aware that the majority of aftermarket wheels have an offset of 35 +/-.
Nobody else much has looked at this thread, but I wonder if anyone with one of these cars - unmodified - can confirm what is on the front.

James 1 · 29-09-2021, 05:08 PM

I will take a punt on these wheels - as described, if you can put me in touch with the relevant dealer. The VIN number is still a problem - me being in NSW and the car being at home in Qld.

moey747 · 29-09-2021, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by James 1

I will take a punt on these wheels - as described, if you can put me in touch with the relevant dealer. The VIN number is still a problem - me being in NSW and the car being at home in Qld.

You can punch in the rego into QLD Transport's website and it will give you the VIN. Make sure the VIN is 36.5 or 28.5 or 65.

and starts with a 6FP

James 1 · 29-09-2021, 07:22 PM

Thanks for that, but I know all about how to do those things. I'd like to try and keep it all "on subject" too, if that's alright.

GT450 · 30-09-2021, 02:11 PM

James it may help your cause if you took the advice and chatter on here a little more gracefully rather than confrontationally. There are a lot of wise men and women on this forum who like nothing more than to help fellow enthusiasts and asking advice then coming across as an expert does not help.
BA FPVs had rear wheel only 28.5 offset and 36.5 fronts after that the wheels from BF2 were the same as the fronts as far as my FPVs were concerned and i don't believe they changed. The 9" rears on the final Ford models i don't know the offset but iam sure plenty on her can tell you. Good luck with your search

**fordomatic** · 30-09-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GT450

James it may help your cause if you took the advice and chatter on here a little more gracefully rather than confrontationally. There are a lot of wise men and women on this forum who like nothing more than to help fellow enthusiasts and asking advice then coming across as an expert does not help.
BA FPVs had rear wheel only 28.5 offset and 36.5 fronts after that the wheels from BF2 were the same as the fronts as far as my FPVs were concerned and i don't believe they changed. The 9" rears on the final Ford models i don't know the offset but iam sure plenty on her can tell you. Good luck with your search

Agreed here 100% FF isn't facebook and i come on here to find out info because it's mostly a group of mature men trying to help each other out.

Plenty of people on here who will happily help, no need to treat them the way you are.

James 1 · 30-09-2021, 05:55 PM

Looks like I did have my figures back-to-front, but I knew there was a difference. I was certain the different offset persisted over the years, but obviously I was mistaken. Thanks for the information - it was exactly what I was looking for. There's no offence meant to anyone, but I do like to keep the talk and information on track and on subject and from someone who had actually owned or owns the relevant car. I have a long history in the car game (older versions) and know people like to "chatter" about it all, but I have never done a lot of that. If asked a question I always give a direct answer to that question if I know, but don't get into idle chatter. Like I said, no offence - I am just a very straight-shooter. To anyone who may be offended, I apologise, but we are all different. Anyway, we got there in the end.

GTLEGEND · 06-10-2021, 01:42 PM

Is this what your after James 1?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/324818053406

Shonky. · 04-11-2021, 04:24 PM

I can confirm that my October 2011 car has 19 x 8 +36.5 all round and when I first bought it new I did lots of homework on the silver wheels as per OPs request. They are the same size.

My question however is about the paint on them. I always thought that the GTP had silver spokes and barrels and machine finish faces, in much the same way as mine has Grey with machine finish.

Can anyone confirm that the 2010 to 2014 GTP had a plain silver wheel, no machine face? I am considering painting mine and would like it as close to original GTP as possible.

Thanks

James 1 · 04-11-2021, 04:38 PM

Yes - No paint on the GT-P wheels. See pic's.

GTLEGEND · 04-11-2021, 06:47 PM

The GTP wheels are painted light silver with machined surfaces similar to the GT's painted Argent inserts and machined surfaces.

You can clearly see this in the pic in the first post of this thread..

James 1 · 04-11-2021, 06:52 PM

Yes, I posted the photo. Sorry - my wording might have been a bit "off" - should have said no colour paint, as in Argent, or grey etc.