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Old 01-09-2009, 06:56 PM   #1
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Talking 98 ron + rear seat's and tyre/jack out = 14.915 @ 151 kph

as the tittle say's i took some crap out of the car and the best run was a 14.915 @ 151 kph which is bloody quick i reakon!! so for those of you who think that weight doesnt do much think again !! thats 0.4 seconds plus 4 kph quicker than full street trim (15.3 @ 147 kph) :

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Damn thats quick well done dude
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your 60ft is a bit crappy. need to practise them launches.

good time none the less.
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Backseat weights all, not sure why you bothered with that part?
14s for an auto's a pretty good time though.
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lol weight does matter BUT each 100kgs you remove is equivilent to 0.1 of a second

So to obtain 0.4 seconds quicker you would have to remove 400kgs

So many variables go into what happens on the 1/4 mile, weather, track, tyres, tune, gear change, etc etc

Removing weight helped but there was something else that helped you get 0.4 quicker.........

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Factor in reaction time and the biggest problem most novices have is the traps at the finish line where by once they hit that they take the foot of the pedal therefore registering a lesser ET&MPH than they in fact have run. Remember that the way to work out best ET for bracket racing is to run it it clearly through the back door and then work from there there as to what you nomionate in the effort too gain best staging options in DYO brackets,
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lol weight does matter BUT each 100kgs you remove is equivilent to 0.1 of a second

So to obtain 0.4 seconds quicker you would have to remove 400kgs

So many variables go into what happens on the 1/4 mile, weather, track, tyres, tune, gear change, etc etc

Removing weight helped but there was something else that helped you get 0.4 quicker.........

Good time none the less



100kg's = .1 of a sec? thats not true. that doesnt take into account tourqe etc. do u think that if u added 100kgs into an 1983 laser it would only affect it by .1 of a sec? ive heard that rule so many times. i weigh 100kg's. and have a mate who weighs the same. with both of us in the car, it is slower than only .1 of a sec. TRUST ME.
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100kg's = .1 of a sec? thats not true. that doesnt take into account tourqe etc. do u think that if u added 100kgs into an 1983 laser it would only affect it by .1 of a sec? ive heard that rule so many times. i weigh 100kg's. and have a mate who weighs the same. with both of us in the car, it is slower than only .1 of a sec. TRUST ME.
How did a Laser come into the equation where were talking about a E-Series Falcon?

Worked in my Charger – but I guess my Charger NA 6cyl pulls 13.3 and I am talking about a performance car LOL
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was using it as an example. thats how the laser came up. how did it work in your charger? did u actaully try adding 200kg's? u would loose WAY more than .2 of a sec down a 1/4mile with an extra 200kg's. thats 4 bags of 50kg cement in the boot! and like i said, depending on car and power, it would change heaps.
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yeah id have to agree with mr 4.0 with this, sorted 13.3 isnt a massive performance car but is good for an n/a 6.
next time anyone goes to the drags take a mate in the car and try it again i recon itd drop .2 or so of a second.
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your 60ft is a bit crappy. need to practise them launches.

good time none the less.
i know, i have a massive wheelspin problem. i need some semi slicks for the track, but i did air down to 16 psi. i have tried heaps of different launches, no stall and nail it, 1500 and nail it, 1500 and feed it on, no stall and feed it on. nothing helps its a smoke show off the line, honestly i have NO shift kit and it chirps 2nds?
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100kg's = .1 of a sec? thats not true. that doesnt take into account tourqe etc. do u think that if u added 100kgs into an 1983 laser it would only affect it by .1 of a sec? ive heard that rule so many times. i weigh 100kg's. and have a mate who weighs the same. with both of us in the car, it is slower than only .1 of a sec. TRUST ME.
exactly, i loaded my corolla up with crap the other day, probly only had 100kgs in the boot, it was a snail lol, weight is everything
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Unless you have a chip or flash tuner, the 98 RON had nothing to do with the time.
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Unless you have a chip or flash tuner, the 98 RON had nothing to do with the time.
i have to say your wrong with that one, my car idles better, runs smoother, gets better economy when it has 98 in it, atleast 30 more k's on an average.
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Yh i belive that too, try explaining how my car runs sweet as on shell 98 yet any other servo 98 causes it to ping hm...

You got your self a freak there mate good job on that time.

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A couple of links for you to have a look at

this one is an ea
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11222462

and this one is of all those that have graced aff with their time in an eseries
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=21392

also not to bad a time either

there is one missing from the list there that is where i want my el to be at and that is a car known by evil ran a high13s 1/4 with an auto i have the cam out of evilin my el also running the ecu out of it as well

since i done those changes i have not run it on the 1/4 ( with the head i have on it )

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silent raptor, what car do u have?
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Yh i belive that too, try explaining how my car runs sweet as on shell 98 yet any other servo 98 causes it to ping hm...

You got your self a freak there mate good job on that time.

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yep i only run bp ultimate, other 98's dont seem as good. it was doing 15.050's-15.150's @ around 148 all night and somehow i managed the 14.915, im stocked considering its got the tick ticks and a stock engine, its getting a 1673 soon with a tune so that should make it abit quicker :
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A couple of links for you to have a look at

this one is an ea
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11222462

and this one is of all those that have graced aff with their time in an eseries
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=21392

also not to bad a time either

there is one missing from the list there that is where i want my el to be at and that is a car known by evil ran a high13s 1/4 with an auto i have the cam out of evilin my el also running the ecu out of it as well

since i done those changes i have not run it on the 1/4 ( with the head i have on it )

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you should crack a 14 for sure! didnt you do a 15.4 with a stuffed box?
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you should crack a 14 for sure! didnt you do a 15.4 with a stuffed box?
yup i have done a 15.46 with a stock eng except for the custom exhaust

ran a 15.42 with same set up but with a 977b in it

since that i have put a better head on and running the cam that trick-xd ran a 13.77 with an auto in his el on gas ( mine will be on gas before it runs again ) i have also added a 3.7 lsd to the fun (he was running a 4.11 spooled dif ) and i am not running the J3 chip atm

your time was good but as others have said it will get better with a better 60ft time

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yup i have done a 15.46 with a stock eng except for the custom exhaust

ran a 15.42 with same set up but with a 977b in it

since that i have put a better head on and running the cam that trick-xd ran a 13.77 with an auto in his el on gas ( mine will be on gas before it runs again ) i have also added a 3.7 lsd to the fun (he was running a 4.11 spooled dif ) and i am not running the J3 chip atm

your time was good but as others have said it will get better with a better 60ft time

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so with the 60' time should there be another 10th off or more?
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SOME cars can double their gain to 60ft at the end of the track. i say SOME.

if u knock .1 off your 60ft, you could gain up to .2 at the end. .1 doesnt sound like much, but making a car launch harder, without wheelspin, and consistant is very hard. so .1 is a good gain.

if i was you, id practise my launches, get GOOD tyres, and try get your 60ft down to 2.05secs. with a cam and tune you could see a 14.6. but no quicker without high stall.
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SOME cars can double their gain to 60ft at the end of the track. i say SOME.

if u knock .1 off your 60ft, you could gain up to .2 at the end. .1 doesnt sound like much, but making a car launch harder, without wheelspin, and consistant is very hard. so .1 is a good gain.

if i was you, id practise my launches, get GOOD tyres, and try get your 60ft down to 2.05secs. with a cam and tune you could see a 14.6. but no quicker without high stall.
well that sounds about right because my first time @ the track without the diff job was a 15.9 @ 142 kph with a 2.673 (it was hopeless to drive without a limo, just a smokeshow) so 4 10th's of gave me a full 1 second. going to get a stally when i blow up my current gearbox lol

my plan is to get a low 14 without major work, i think my car has it considering the times it runs with no internal work. i will be happy though if i can get it under 14.5, thats quick enough to scare most new car's! i said scare not beat lol
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lol weight does matter BUT each 100kgs you remove is equivilent to 0.1 of a second

So to obtain 0.4 seconds quicker you would have to remove 400kgs

So many variables go into what happens on the 1/4 mile, weather, track, tyres, tune, gear change, etc etc

Removing weight helped but there was something else that helped you get 0.4 quicker.........

Good time none the less
I think you'll find its 100lbs, not 100kg that makes a .1sec difference on the 1/4.
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My brothers ef futura manual with a bruce heinrich cam, diff, tune, intake, exhaust used to run consistent mid-low 14s.
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