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Would require a mega factory that could pump out at least 200,000 cars a year. But then where do they sell these cars to?
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If the Commodore Auto Company could build, sell and export nearly those numbers in the early 2000s, and the Falcon Car Company was allowed to build LHD export vehicles as well, it could have been achieved if both GM and Ford USA had been told to go and **** themselves in 2012.
Australia could have had a single viable industry, with the existing infrastructure in place. There were more than enough smart people, engineers and designers spread within the two companies to accomplish this. The moment has gone, and too many $$$$ are needed to start it again. We are destined to accept whatever scraps are being thrown after the rest of the world is supplied. When Chinese cars are being praised as being affordable, and their engineering accepted as being sufficient for needs, be it ICE, PHEV or EV. we are doomed. |
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Eventually, when the number of people employed digging up the Pilbara exceeds the population of Sydney, governments will be forced to start thinking about what else this country can do besides digging itself up. Either that, or they will just sell WA to the Chinese.
We SHOULD be making steel and steel products. We SHOULD be making copper, and electric motors. We SHOULD be making batteries. Making ships, trains, and cars, is a logical extension. However the biggest challenge facing Australia, is the lack of energy devoted to pulling our politicians' heads out of their *****. Until me can achieve that, nothing is going to change. And I imagine I'll be long dead before that happens. |
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The woman is delusional!
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Automotive Manufacturing is already here.
Why hasn't everybody put down a deposit yet? https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ ![]()
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Just maybe because the others are more efficient and work a days work for a days pay and not wanting 20% of their working life on holidays
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Any new automotive enterprise would be high tech and highly automated.
If the history of car building in oz teaches us anything it is that a partnership where a foreign multinational sets up manufacturing here, only suits the multinational. If a locally owned car company had setup in the 40s or 50s we would probably still have car built here. We might not have had the skillset then, we certainly do now. Dual cab utes and electric cars is what would sell locally, and be exportable. |
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I always have a bit of a laugh when people sprout the 'green' benefits of electric vehicles - the whole thing is a Furphy, and I am pretty 'green' in my outlook, but seriously . . . . . . .
What is mined to manufacture these vehicles? What is mined to manufacture the batteries? What is the lifespan of the batteries? What happens to the batteries when they are expired? What energy is required to keep the EV's charged? Where does the energy come from to charge EV's?
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![]() The more efficient part is because they work in mega factories geared up to build 200,000 + vehicles per year. That was the biggest killer of Broady, it could never build enough vehicles for economy of scale, when it was maxed out at about 100,000 cars a year. |
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Thats why people who keep sprouting the idea that auto manufacturing will come back here are making zero sense. But nah it's the unions and high wages ![]() |
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Because they're pumping out Hundreds of Thousands care per annum, as apposed to; the tens of Thousands of cars Australia used to produce..
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The solution is simple.
Everyone needs to have 10-20 kids each. We will then have the population of the USA. We will then have the market size to build what we want. Go out and do your duty for the country.
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even if we could invest in mega factories to build the volumes, we'd need to improve our port handling facilities significantly to push that many cars onto that many transporter boats. Not saying it can't be done but the the recent governments of both sides reluctance to spend any money on real infrastructure improvements makes me doubt the will
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Nothing, as long as we have the correct colours for our bin lids, everything will be recycled.
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I always thought the export potential of australian cars was undermined by the wild currency fluctuations of the Australian dollar.
My brother worked at Mitsubishi...they made 270 cars a day...200 were exported to the US. That was when we were 48 cents to a USD. Then we went to $ AUD0.99 to $USD1.00 that made an Australian made Diamate (Magna) the same price as a C class Mercedes in the US. What happened next is history... Nothing to do with the workers. Poor Mitsubishi released the 380 at the same time planning to export it to the US. it was cheaper to build the same car (galant) in the us...and they did right up to 2012.
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Then Mitsubishi said goodbye and that torpedoed us. Its not just the people working at the manufacturers it torpedos the whole supply chain of all the little companies manufacturing and supplying all sorts of bits and bobs to them. Couple decades ago we employed 700 people in Victoria alone across two production facilities in our day, now its around 30 of us in Melbourne and 15 in other states. The irony in it all even though we're tiny now, we've got a unique capability because everyone else gave up on it ![]() |
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