meguires polish

[pod66]

has anyone had any experiences with meguires nxt tech wax 2.0, just used it on my black territory, what a f---ing disaster, spent 5 hrs on the car, starting with a clay bar,then swirl remover, at this point all was ok then i polished it with the tech wax and it looked like someone had wiped the whole car with a greasy rag, there were smears all over it, had to redo it with my old faithful bottle of turtle wax, yeh i know some of you may laugh, but ive always had a decent result with turtle wax, was thinking of using mothers californian gold wax as i will never touch a meguires product again

[gthofan]

i have the same problem sometimes with meguires. I find a really clean microfibre cloth, and ALOT of elbow grease helps. Ive always had to use a fair amount of pressure with the meguires polish. Maybe a buff would help?

[Smoke Pursuit]

u put too much on and didnt get it off quick enough.. thats what its telling me!!

[Ibrox90]

T wax ice never had an issue. layers up very nicely

[pod66]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

u put too much on and didnt get it off quick enough.. thats what its telling me!!

on the bottle it says allow to dry, but does not say how long , it would not have been any longer than 10mins, the microfibre cloth was brand new and i use 2 of them to polish a whole car so i think they were clean, would the fact they were new make any difference? do they work better after a wash?

[G6LTD09]

Yes had the same problem with the smear marks the first time I used the gold wax, went away the next day when i gave it a quick wash. The second time I waxed was ok, I suppose I was a bit more careful applying though and removing.

[sneaky]

been a while since i have polished a car and when i did i always used maguires, but it was the old school carnubara (spelling) wax.

i used to have a bag of old towels / nappies to apply and remove the polish and wax, and i used to go through them. about 4 small towels each time around the car, ie 4 for swirl remove, 4 for polish, 4 for wax..

[trippytaka]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

u put too much on and didnt get it off quick enough.. thats what its telling me!!

First thing that sprang to my mind too.

[VioletGT]

Seems like the rag wasn't soaking up the polish.... Ive had this happen to me to as well and i find a bit more "wax on" gets its good..

[XR8 Uterous]

Originally Posted by sneakypete23

been a while since i have polished a car and when i did i always used maguires, but it was the old school carnubara (spelling) wax.

i used to have a bag of old towels / nappies to apply and remove the polish and wax, and i used to go through them. about 4 small towels each time around the car, ie 4 for swirl remove, 4 for polish, 4 for wax..

You do realise that using towels/nappies on the paint will be inducing the swirl marks you are trying to hide? I say hide as it sounds like you are applying by hand. You will need a machine to remove swirls effectively.

Back on topic, as others have said, you have applied to much wax, was the surface of the car hot? Were you in complete shade? Both of these would of made matters worse.

[Phyber]

I JUST got done using NXT gen tech wax 2.0 paste (tin) - looks great. I decided 3/4 the way through that 2 microfibre cloths would be best for next time as it relaly clogs up fast on there - my first time using a dedicated wax though so used too much I think.

Some parts sat there for about 10 mins but generally i left it less than 3 mins I'd guess? Came up great! Silver car so not as "deep" as a dark colour but it feels OH so smooth now and reflects the light great!



Oh and isn't a polish and a wax different - polish is eeeeeever so sightly abrasive, smooths swirls out of the clear coat/paint, then the wax gives protectant layer? I could eaily be wrong though.

[XR8 Uterous]

You are correct that polishes are an abrasive, and come in many levels of abrasiveness (or 'cut'). Although some of the cheaper products such as meguires or turtle wax will advertise products as a polish and wax in one, but in all honestly its does neither to any great effect.
For not much more than the price of meguires products you can buy better quality products from people such as Dave from Waxit (site sponsor) which will have a much greater result. www.waxit.com.au is most defiantly worth checking out.

[nipper575]

I also experienced this problem with the meguiars nxt tech wax 2. Just seemed like a pig of a wax to remove by hand, had to resort to using the buffer.

I've since gone back to meguiars deep crystal carnauba wax, comes off as easy as it goes on. Very little swirl marks left behind if any at all, that's only buffing by hand too.

Phyber, I also think that is correct, polish cuts into the clear ever so slightly to help remove small marks, wax is simply a protective coating.

[XR8 Uterous]

For people that have trouble removing wax for various reasons, spray some quick detailer on to the panel and wipe off, will wipe off the QD and remove the wax.

[mrbaxr6t]

what the heck?! I use this product heaps and it always has given me excellent results

I use it over the nxt gen wash stuff and if you did there is something to watch out for if you mix the wash stuff too strong you need to rinse really really well as if you don't when you apply the wax over it when the surface is still soapy from the wash it doesn't work because the polish goes cloudy for some reason I have had this happen on a small area because I didnt rinse properly once so i rewashed and re polished area and it solved it.

also the nxt gen stuff is a million times easier to rub off than meguiars gold class the polish goes cloudy and if you touch it with finger and rub fingers together it feels like dry talc powder this is when you rub it off if you try to rub it off wet it is extremely difficult to get off because it wants to stay adhered to your car and not to the cloth

hope this helps you and dont despair the products are good but as with most polishing products some suit your personal technique better than others.

[Bundy]

""at this point all was ok then i polished it with the tech wax""

sounds like you have a problem in the procedure ie your not doing it right (I've done similar in the past)

You should use a polish like Meguires deep (works great on black cars) and then apply the nex gen tech wax over the top like , because is more of a "sunscreen"

I've got a black ute and I know where your coming from, if its not done correctly you get to see every little mistake.

By the way, I'd give my lefty for a decent Chamois, I've just about tried them all, I find that its my biggest problem on leaving marks after a wash.

Also when I apply and hand buff polish or wax, I NEVER let it dry to a haze and remember LESS is MORE, I'd rather put on 2 small coats of polish and buff inbetween and 1 or 2 coats of wax as its much easier to do in thinner layers.

[Brent]

I've used both their Tech wax and their Yellow Wax, and I tend to prefer the latter. I've never used a machine. Always done by hand. Can't fault the results.

Its very, very tempting to use a bit too much wax when applying. I think we've all done that from time to time, and yep, it will go all thick and gluggy on you if you use too much. Carefully applied in an even, thin layer and you shouldn't have any dramas.

Remember that the content of the wax that actually bonds to your paintwork is only a few microns thick. The rest is buffed away, so if you apply any more than the thinnest of coats when you apply it, all you're doing is making work for yourself as you'll have to buff it all off anyway.

[sbcb]

Found Tech Wax good, no problems. The advice on this forum for how long to leave a synthetic/polymer sealent "wax" such as NXT wax is about half an hour to give its best bonding and protection.

[ea90gl]

Originally Posted by pod66

has anyone had any experiences with meguires nxt tech wax 2.0, just used it on my black territory, what a f---ing disaster, spent 5 hrs on the car, starting with a clay bar,then swirl remover, at this point all was ok then i polished it with the tech wax and it looked like someone had wiped the whole car with a greasy rag, there were smears all over it, had to redo it with my old faithful bottle of turtle wax, yeh i know some of you may laugh, but ive always had a decent result with turtle wax, was thinking of using mothers californian gold wax as i will never touch a meguires product again

You might be referring to the hologram effect, does this "greasy look" have a few colours of the rainbow in sunlight? If so like many have mentioned this is the result of applying too much product, spray on some quick detailer and give it a wipe with some microfibre towels

[kezzer]

Ive got paint protection on my car, do i need to wax anytime soon? It's a year and a half old now. If so what would you recomend I use? Do I need a polish and wax? Ive never owned a car worth polishing. Sorry if this is the wrong thread.

[sen]

had the same issue on my black skyline using the new meguire's tech wax stuff

there was a noticeable milky sorta watermark thingy(sorry best explanation i can come up with) all over the bonnet/roof. Has disappeared after a wash a week later though.

maybe its just more noticeable on black cars? will see how it goes on my ute this weekend

[sneaky]

Originally Posted by Ex Arr

You do realise that using towels/nappies on the paint will be inducing the swirl marks you are trying to hide? I say hide as it sounds like you are applying by hand. You will need a machine to remove swirls effectively.

ahh, nope, didn't realise.

i never trusted myself not to burn the paint or stuff it royally with a buffer machine..

[rancidpunx]

Another for "You're using to much", or your applying it in the sun or on a hot panel.

A glob the size of a 5c piece is more than enough to do half the bonnet and leave it for 15mins.. To take it off with ease, with a microfibre, fold it in half, and then half again. You then have 8 sides of the cloth to take the product off with so divide the car into 8. A lot of people will just use the 2 sides of a microfibre with an open palm in the middle. Use the whole towel. Then with another towel go over the car again.

Last point is that you last step product, in this case NXT wax, is only as good as your prep work.

[sic 40t]

Originally Posted by pod66

has anyone had any experiences with meguires nxt tech wax 2.0, just used it on my black territory, what a f---ing disaster, spent 5 hrs on the car, starting with a clay bar,then swirl remover, at this point all was ok then i polished it with the tech wax and it looked like someone had wiped the whole car with a greasy rag, there were smears all over it, had to redo it with my old faithful bottle of turtle wax, yeh i know some of you may laugh, but ive always had a decent result with turtle wax, was thinking of using mothers californian gold wax as i will never touch a meguires product again

dont mean to be a ******** but wen i look for polish i walk past turtle wax mother not bad meguiers is the ******** you have done some thing wrong i you it once a week if see what the car look it hang the ******** on my mate have a black car no problems did you have in the sun doing ? i do mine in the sun due to no garage sweet you did it wrong

[SirHenry]

Yep I still haven't found anything better than Turtlewax.

Always gives an excellent result every single time.

[tezxr8man]

Allways used meguires Gold class for the best effect over yellow wax or mothers pure carnauba wax, have a black xr8 and always have great results, had the greasy look a while ago coz i got a lil' bit carried away but gone after the next wash
Find that the Nxt Gen wax is good but doesnt seem to last as long as the Gold Class,
for me anyway

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by pod66

has anyone had any experiences with meguires nxt tech wax 2.0, just used it on my black territory, what a f---ing disaster, spent 5 hrs on the car, starting with a clay bar,then swirl remover, at this point all was ok then i polished it with the tech wax and it looked like someone had wiped the whole car with a greasy rag, there were smears all over it, had to redo it with my old faithful bottle of turtle wax, yeh i know some of you may laugh, but ive always had a decent result with turtle wax, was thinking of using mothers californian gold wax as i will never touch a meguires product again

I would say that you are using too much of it on the car and not leaving it on the car long enough try haze properly.
I used Tech Wax for a long time and never had a problem with it. Another thing you should do is wax the whole car before buffing off as this gives it the required time to haze properly. Don't think that it will cake on as if you don't apply too much it comes off a treat.

Another little tip is once you have buffed the wax off to go over the car again with Ultimate Detailer, the result is great.

[paule11]

Originally Posted by kezzer

Ive got paint protection on my car, do i need to wax anytime soon? It's a year and a half old now. If so what would you recomend I use? Do I need a polish and wax? Ive never owned a car worth polishing. Sorry if this is the wrong thread.

If water is still beading I wouldnt if you polish it you will remove yuor paint protection

[mrbaxr6t]

Originally Posted by sic 40t

dont mean to be a ******** but wen i look for polish i walk past turtle wax mother not bad meguiers is the ******** you have done some thing wrong i you it once a week if see what the car look it hang the ******** on my mate have a black car no problems did you have in the sun doing ? i do mine in the sun due to no garage sweet you did it wrong

sorry but is this english used:

[pod66]

the car was warm, as it was in my garage and it was about 35degrees out side, but i wouldnt say it was hot, have been polishing cars for 25yrs and never had this problem, i find it strange the turtle wax worked fine