Possible scam

[deesun]

I have a car on Carsales and I got this after I returned her first email. Does it look like a scam? Why? The bells rang when she asked for my paypal email. Smells like, looks like?

Thanks for the swift response,
just to let you know that i am okay with the condition and price, i am
ready for it outright purchase and am willing to add an extra $100 to
the asking price to secure the purchase as i am very satisfied with
what i have seen in the pictures which they say is worth a thousand
words Payment will be made using PayPal (i've stopped using online
banking -long story) but my bank account has been linked to paypal so
payment comes straight from my bank account.Paypal also protects you
from exposing your bank account online unnecessarily as all i require
for the payment to be made is the email you used when signing up.

I'll be responsible for the pick-up at your location via a pick up
company and it will be scheduled after the payment has been made.


let me have your PayPal email as soon as possible and if you do not
have then quickly sign up at www.paypal.com.au and do not forget the
final price you want to sell it including the extra $100.00,i would
have called but i am hearing impaired.


I would have really loved to come for the viewing and pay in person by
cash but due to the nature of my work, that is not possible, i am an
anthropologist and as you are aware, Its a non-stop traveling in this
profession and i am currently away for the next 39days, this is why i
use the service of a professional pick up agent which i trusted and i
could have also waited till i am back but i am giving it to someone
who really needs it and must get it within the next 7DAYS!
Many Thanks.

Thanks for anyones input.

[usernametaken]

S.c.a.m.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Tell em that you are happy to deliver it on day 40 with a $100 discount.

Yep, scam.

Seriously, is there any way to beat these guys at their own game, like open a PayPal account linked to another new account with 50c balance then accept payment and close everything the following day?

Takes 5 days to clear funds... Bugger.

How is this loophole still available to these mongrels.... Beggars belief.

[Spudz27]

Originally Posted by deesun

I have a car on Carsales and I got this after I returned her first email. Does it look like a scam? Why? The bells rang when she asked for my paypal email. Smells like, looks like?

Thanks for the swift response,
just to let you know that i am okay with the condition and price, i am
ready for it outright purchase and am willing to add an extra $100 to
the asking price to secure the purchase as i am very satisfied with
what i have seen in the pictures which they say is worth a thousand
words Payment will be made using PayPal (i've stopped using online
banking -long story) but my bank account has been linked to paypal so
payment comes straight from my bank account.Paypal also protects you
from exposing your bank account online unnecessarily as all i require
for the payment to be made is the email you used when signing up.

I'll be responsible for the pick-up at your location via a pick up
company and it will be scheduled after the payment has been made.


let me have your PayPal email as soon as possible and if you do not
have then quickly sign up at www.paypal.com.au and do not forget the
final price you want to sell it including the extra $100.00,i would
have called but i am hearing impaired.


I would have really loved to come for the viewing and pay in person by
cash but due to the nature of my work, that is not possible, i am an
anthropologist and as you are aware, Its a non-stop traveling in this
profession and i am currently away for the next 39days, this is why i
use the service of a professional pick up agent which i trusted and i
could have also waited till i am back but i am giving it to someone
who really needs it and must get it within the next 7DAYS!
Many Thanks.

Thanks for anyones input.

Regardless of any of the other many red flags, this one alone would have me never contact them further. Or reply saying that you won't deal with 3rd parties and they will need to come and test drive and pick the car up in person.

[poppa smurf]

doesn't sound too flash....if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then the chances are pretty good it aint a penguin

[Jim Goose]

Ah... gee i dunno... this sorta scam has been posted on here how many times now?

Not to mention on TV and newspapers for a very long time now.
And not to mention email warnings which have done the traps....

[xisled]

This is a scam, but they are not after the car.

What they are after is your Money around about $1000 in most cases.

What they will do is say, that they cannot pay for the transport and could you put $1000 into a Western Union transfer, so they can arrange the transport. They will add this to the total price that will go into your PayPal account. The person will then send the $1000 to the scammer and the scammer will never be heard of again. Western Union cannot be traced.

Basically all these scams they will not want the car, the reason being, it is not fast cash and too hard to make money.

The reason why people get scammed with these things is because people think the scammers are after the car, not money.

[AU101]

The old " thanks for the swift response" lol, I got a similar email when my car was up for sale, only this person worked on an oil rig! SCAM!!

[05_ENFORCER]

Yep, all to common these days.

If it smells like poo it usually is


.

[robbyj]

scam - The alarm bells that were set off.

Anyone that 'works away' (Ive had the off shore oil platform worker a few times)

Buying the car as a gift for someone who desperately needs it

Won't contact you via phone, only email

Accepting paypal for any large amount of money is a bad idea

3rd party pickup/delivery companies

Adding extra money to the purchase price

As well as the poorly structured English

[AJ09]

I've had the same thing, with a car and a sewing machine my Wife was selling.

The only difference was, the "interest" was from an Oceanographer????? who claimed they couldn't use internet banking whilst at sea. ( they were still able to use email???)

Fortunately we "smelled a rat" very early in the piece. My Wife googled the person's name that was being used, dozens of results all on the same thing.

Unfortunately some people had been stung.

Definitely a common thing.

[Ben73]

Anyone who tells you how good paypal is in the opening email is definitely a scammer.

[JC]

www.snopes.com.au

[atec77]

Originally Posted by robbyj

scam - The alarm bells that were set off.

Anyone that 'works away' (Ive had the off shore oil platform worker a few times)

Buying the car as a gift for someone who desperately needs it

Won't contact you via phone, only email

Accepting paypal for any large amount of money is a bad idea

3rd party pickup/delivery companies

Adding extra money to the purchase price

As well as the poorly structured English

Got one of these last week referring to a laptop for sale basically near word perfect , failed to respond when I asked for the cell number so I might call for some details

[Bucknaked]

Its a SCAM. They all use the same type of script. I have a dozen of them. Just ignore them.

Heres some I have received previously

ok no problem i will be paying you with my PayPal account because it's attached to my bank account and its safe and very secure way to make payment. If my mode of payment is accepted just send me your paypal email address,(Paypal ID) so i can pay in right away. Make sure you get back to me so that i can make the payment. I have a private courier agent that will come for the pick up after payments has been made, so no shipping included. And if you dont have a paypal account, you can easily go to
www.paypal.com.au and sign up. its very easy.
I await your reply asap.

Thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition,am
buying it for my holiday,because i'll be coming soon from our rig as
am a petroleum engineer and am on a rig offshore,i won't be able to
come for the inspection due to the nature of my work .i will be paying
you through PayPal,please get back to me with your PayPal details so I
can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will
come to pick it up and deliver it in my place.

They all use gmail accounts.

[LG17]

I don't think you really need any more folk to tell you it's a scam.

[Bossxr8]

I work on an oil rig and would like to purchase your car. I am willing to pay an extra $1000 for it to secure the purchase. Can you please provide me with your name, address and bank account details so I can provide payment.

Amidoingitright?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by xisled

This is a scam, but they are not after the car.

What they are after is your Money around about $1000 in most cases.

What they will do is say, that they cannot pay for the transport and could you put $1000 into a Western Union transfer, so they can arrange the transport. They will add this to the total price that will go into your PayPal account. The person will then send the $1000 to the scammer and the scammer will never be heard of again. Western Union cannot be traced.

Basically all these scams they will not want the car, the reason being, it is not fast cash and too hard to make money.

The reason why people get scammed with these things is because people think the scammers are after the car, not money.

I thought it worked a little differently to that, something about a flaw in Paypals refund policy / procedure??

At what point is the buyers money moved? Perhaps they request what you say after they have paid via PayPal, then use the 5 days for you to pay for the transport, then take the money from Western Union, then raise a claim for a refund and get it all back plus the 'transport' money.

[robbyj]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I thought it worked a little differently to that, something about a flaw in Paypals refund policy / procedure??

At what point is the buyers money moved? Perhaps they request what you say after they have paid via PayPal, then use the 5 days for you to pay for the transport, then take the money from Western Union, then raise a claim for a refund and get it all back plus the 'transport' money.

They will never make the payment. Rather seeking you to pay them, which they will add to the total cost.

[deesun]

So what you are all saying is you think it's a scam? Ok I get that. Thanks guys, I did suspect it.

[Outbackjack]

Right click, select junk email, select add to block senders list. Definately a theiving scammer.

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by deesun

So what you are all saying is you think it's a scam? Ok I get that. Thanks guys, I did suspect it.

No one here thinks its a scam at all, we all know its a scam.

One thing ive learnt, if at least once alarm bells ring of a scam, then its a scam.

[Mickxr8]

Woohho got a live 1 , usual story , want`s to pay bit more etc . I said `money talks` etc ( asked me to pull the adds coz he waz keen blah blah blah , picked it straight away , this was his last email.

I won't be able to come over with cash or mail a cheque because presently, i'm working away in Darwin on a research project but i have equally arranged the courier agent that will come for the pick up, transfer of ownership but this will be after i have made payment to you.
Kindly send me your bank details as i'm ready to transfer the money into your bank account.
Kind Regards,
John.

Now my question is,, I wanna have some fun and drag this out as long as I can Ideas

(carsguide btw)

[sarrge2001]

I'm in Darwin - I'm happy for him to come and pay me on your behalf

He gives me the cash - i put it in your bank - his agent picks the car up.

I'll bet if you offer that he turns out to be based in Darwin but out in the bush at the moment, or on a mine site, or an oil rig........

[nuthin' fancy]

Originally Posted by 05_ENFORCER

Yep, all to common these days.

If it smells like poo it usually is


.

I can smell it from here.

[gossy]

Originally Posted by deesun

i would
have called but i am hearing impaired.

That's a new one.

[nikko2]

The link in the e-mail is not genuine. You put your e-mail and password into it and they have both.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by deesun

So what you are all saying is you think it's a scam?

I don’t see a problem with this. Looks legitimate to me.

Just wondering, does anyone here have the phone number for the Nigerian president? I’m still waiting for the 15,000,000 USD to be deposited into my bank account and I think he may have lost my details after my bank account was cleaned out.

Any help is appreciated.

[XR6_661]

Wonder how many people legit work on rigs and no-one wants to sell them a car haha

[grandpa_spec_F6]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Wonder how many people legit work on rigs and no-one wants to sell them a car haha

GOLD! However I assume if they have internet they have a telephone... and could ring to confirm details rather than put some dodgy crud like:

"I'll be responsible for the pick-up at your location via a pick up
company and it will be scheduled after the payment has been made."

Besides that, I would assume with the wads of cash they'd be making they would just get someone they knew to buy it for them and pay in cash