Dual Fuel Setups - Pics Request

[GK]

Hi All,

Just wondering if I can have any close ups of the way the gas pipe feeds into the black intake piping (connecting to Throttle Body) please?

I went to pull my intake pipe off to clean out the throttle body today and the darn thing wouldn't come off. I noticed that the screw in gas pipe piece was very close to the TB. It appears to be so close that it's hindering the rubber that seals the pipe to the TB.

Here's what I mean:




Also, I just noticed from these pics that the rubber has actually been cut, to allow the gas hose and fitting to get very close to the TB. Does anyone else have a setup as such?

I'm thinking I might get another pipe and rescrew the gas pipe back just a little, but I'd like to see how others have theirs set up before I do anything.

Thanks everyone in advance.

GK

P.S I know it's obvious that my engine bay needs a bit of a pressure wash! LOL!

[FGII-XR6]

you just unscrew the fitting that the hose connects to i've done it with mine a couple of times now no dramasit's only a threaded hose adaptor

[BlueOvalPower]

Mine is very close but it doesn't cut into the rubber, instead sitting about 5mm away from the rubber seal.

[GK]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

you just unscrew the fitting that the hose connects to i've done it with mine a couple of times now no dramasit's only a threaded hose adaptor

I unscrewed the hose clamp and took off the rubber hose so the brass fitting was still attached to the black intake piping. The piping still didn't want to budge and I was concerned that I was pulling the piping away from the rubber on the TB.

GK

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by GK

I unscrewed the hose clamp and took off the rubber hose so the brass fitting was still attached to the black intake piping. The piping still didn't want to budge and I was concerned that I was pulling the piping away from the rubber on the TB.

GK

you unscrew the brass fitting as i said it's only a threaded hose adaptor

[GK]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

you unscrew the brass fitting as i said it's only a threaded hose adaptor

Why is that needed? If the brass fitting isn't holding on to any part of the TB, but only the intake piping, why should I take it off?

Perhaps I'm missing something here? LOL!

GK

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by GK

Why is that needed? If the brass fitting isn't holding on to any part of the TB, but only the intake piping, why should I take it off?

Perhaps I'm missing something here? LOL!

GK

if u take the brass bit out you can get the black pipe off you need it as it is the feed for the gas venturi

[trick_xd]

and after all that you don't really need to take it off.
You just have to undo the air intake pipe and leave the mixer in there ... clean the throttle body and put it back again.
yes it is to be that close .
the mixer "ring" is to sit right up to the throttle body..

looks like yours is factory gas with that sort of set up.

[GK]

Originally Posted by trick_xd

and after all that you don't really need to take it off.
You just have to undo the air intake pipe and leave the mixer in there ... clean the throttle body and put it back again.
yes it is to be that close .
the mixer "ring" is to sit right up to the throttle body..

looks like yours is factory gas with that sort of set up.

It is indeed factory gas.

I can't seem to get the rubber off the TB.

I've just had a look at a spare TB I have. It's got quite a large lip that the rubber needs to get over. I'll give it another go when I get a longer period of time to have a proper crack at it.

GK

[The Dok]

Mine is the same setup, as has been stated, the easiest way to remove the intake pipe is to unscrew the brass fitting, I've had mine off a few times, you'll be surprised how easy it comes apart with the fitting removed.

[GK]

Thanks for all the replies guys.

GK

[au2sw]

sorry, but there is no need to remove the brass fitting as everyone suggests. it screws in to the mixer and is not attached to the T/B. what may have happened is the intake has "glued" it self to the t/b from the wax in the gas. another possibility is that it was siliconed onto the t/b. just make sure all hose clamps and bolts holding the ducting in place are lose/removed and then just pull like buggery while giving it a good wiggle around. it will eventually come free.

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by au2sw

sorry, but there is no need to remove the brass fitting as everyone suggests. it screws in to the mixer and is not attached to the T/B. what may have happened is the intake has "glued" it self to the t/b from the wax in the gas. another possibility is that it was siliconed onto the t/b. just make sure all hose clamps and bolts holding the ducting in place are lose/removed and then just pull like buggery while giving it a good wiggle around. it will eventually come free.

in my car you can't get the intake off without removing the fitting as it goes through the intake

[robbo_yobbo]

The mixer ring on my car is permanently attatched to the throttle body, it has a metal lip which has been folded down over the edge of the throttle body and appears as though the intention was for it to never (ever) be removed without mangling the mixer ring, so to take off the intake, you need to unscrew the brass fitting.

[au2sw]

you poor buggers....i feel sorry for you. perhaps that is GKs problem. you may be stuck with it mate.

[robbo_yobbo]

Originally Posted by au2sw

you poor buggers....i feel sorry for you. perhaps that is GKs problem. you may be stuck with it mate.

if so, just unscrew the brass fitting, its nothing more than a threaded tube, it just screws out and screws back in when you want to put it back, same as any other bolt youve ever removed.

you can still clean the tb with the mixing ring left in there if you cant take it off (like mine), but you'll find it a little easier if you take the throttle body off the manifold (4 bolts) so you can get in from behind easier.

[Tors77AU]

Ive got an AU s1 with tickford factory set up.
The Mixer and TB are a one piece unit, you cant seperate the mixer from the TB.
To remove the intake pipe you have to remove the brass fitting as it thread into the mixer.

[Tors77AU]

Originally Posted by robbo_yobbo

but you'll find it a little easier if you take the throttle body off the manifold (4 bolts) so you can get in from behind easier.

Is there a gasket on the TB mount? Or is it sealed with RTV or something similar? If there is a gasket, is it reusable or should it be replaced each time the TB is off?

[AUbigfoot]

When it's light outside and I get a free second, I'll take a happy snap for you.

[InfernoSR]

Hope this helps...

[GK]

Cheers!

GK

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by GK

Cheers!

GK

Hope that is enough... i cant find the original larger photo unfortunatly... and i cant seem to find any other close ups... must have lost them in the backup before i upgraded my OS to Windows 7 RC. :P

[bodes-sh]

hmmm, talk about thread mining, lol. it's not too bad i guess, it's not quite 2 years old...

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by bodes-sh

hmmm, talk about thread mining, lol. it's not too bad i guess, it's not quite 2 years old...

woops... missed that bit... was to busy seeing the problems and not the date :P

[AUbigfoot]

haha damn. I got to admit I didn't look at the date either. How awkward..

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by AUbigfoot

haha damn. I got to admit I didn't look at the date either. How awkward..

lol! here's hoping i dont get reported for that then :P

[Tors77AU]

Yeah i didnt read the date either, but where do you find the balance between starting a new thread about an existing topic, and diging up an old thread?

Seems both are irritating to alot of members here.

[bodes-sh]

don't worry, it didn't irritate me, i was just stirring you guys up, that's all. it's better to see people actually doing searches rather than having pages of new threads with the same topics in them.