Star Wars Episode III thoughts & opinions (ie. SPOILERS!)

[MrSparkle]

Well saw it tonight, sensational! A much more focussed and coherent movie than the last two, especially Ep. 1 which has been known to give me fits of violent rage throwing things at the screen / tv.

It was a much more serious angle too, hardly any laughs, which actually didn't detract from it much at all I think.

Some great scenes, particularly involving Yoda, and good to see some Wookie action! :evilsasmo

The only downside in my opinion was the character development of Anakin. It started out great and went rapidly downhill from midway onwards. His "descent" to the dark side was more of a leap - there was no tussle within himself between good and evil - all of a sudden, he was a mindless servant of the Emporer and had completely lost all ability to reason, and just seemed to be reciting lines rather than believing them, in spite of the fact that the only reason he actually joined the dark side was to do some good for that honey of his. It just seemed a bit too inconsistent, one moment he was condemning himself to save his woman and knowing full well the difference between good and evil, the next he had conveniently forgotten all about that and was happy to go around slaughtering the little padawan kids. Like I say, no transition - just straight from "young hero" to "mindless drone villain" without any progression.

Anyway, enough ranting on that point, still well enjoyed all 2.5hrs of it. May go back and watch it again and see if I missed something! :gren:

May I end by saying, mmmmmmmmmm.... Natalie Portman ......... : : : :sm_drool: :

[EB-maen]

I was disappointed with the way Windu died. I mean, he beat the Emperor and was about to kill him until Anakin stepped in, and the way he died was pretty bad (the anakin lava scene at the end was pretty horrible, ie horrible as in nasty, not horribly done; If obi wan felt he was like a brother to him, wouldnt he have just sabered off his head or something, instead of leaving him to burn to death?) And yeah, Anakin kind of just instantly turned into an Emperor groupie, and it did turn into a pretty dark movie with the whole jedi-slaying montage.

It was interesting to see a fair bit of raw usage of the force by characters on each other during fights, there wasnt really that much of it in any of the other movies. What the hell was general grievous? Obviously he wasnt an all out robot/droid, cos what kind of a stupid idea is sticking a heart (or whatever organ that was) in a robot? He did have an organic face though, so I'm assuming he used to be some form of 'living' thing.

Amusing parts/scenes:
-When yoda and the emperor are fighting in that council chamber place, and the emperor is cackling mindlessly as he flings those hovering pods at yoda, and then yoda sends one back at twice the speed and his cackling slows down and turns into an 'oh, im owned' sort of face as the pod hurtles towards him.
-The Darth Vader 'Nnnnoooooooooo!' at the end; that was just weird to see darth vader do the whole clenched-fist-remorse thing
-When obi-wan drops his light saber which lands next to a clone trooper, who picks it up suspiciously and looks around, it's almost as if he's planning to sell it on ebay or something
-Yoda walks through a door and just flicks his hands and the two imperial guards either side of him get hammered against the wall and then fall down and die

And finally, what was the story with yoda telling obi-wan at the end that he would teach him to talk to quii-gon? I was expecting to see a Liam Neeson cameo but the movie kind of just ended. I heard some talk of a tv series?

All in all, a very entertaining watch

[MrQuan]

Loved it. This was an awesome addition.

I thought ep1 was too childish and jaja ruined it (man I hate him).

Ep2 was okish... the editing was horrible I thought, so choppy. It was like a one-liner, then a scene change, then another line, then a scene change - like it was the same editor from days of our lives.

I was very impressed by this one though. Very dark and serious, but you see lots of saber fighting and the force being used lots. The opening space battle scene rocks too.

One point I wanna make... They shouldn't of announced Leia's name near the end. Padme should've just said "luke" and then died before saying "leia" or some thing, because in the next episodes, the viewer technically shouldn't know they are twins, it's a big twist in the plot. Yeah I know everyone already knows etc etc, but for the sake of making ep3 after 4, 5, and 6 - I think it should've been different.

[XAGSV8]

Originally Posted by EB-maen

I was disappointed with the way Windu died. I mean, he beat the Emperor and was about to kill him until Anakin stepped in, and the way he died was pretty bad (the anakin lava scene at the end was pretty horrible, ie horrible as in nasty, not horribly done; If obi wan felt he was like a brother to him, wouldnt he have just sabered off his head or something, instead of leaving him to burn to death?) And yeah, Anakin kind of just instantly turned into an Emperor groupie, and it did turn into a pretty dark movie with the whole jedi-slaying montage.

It was interesting to see a fair bit of raw usage of the force by characters on each other during fights, there wasnt really that much of it in any of the other movies. What the hell was general grievous? Obviously he wasnt an all out robot/droid, cos what kind of a stupid idea is sticking a heart (or whatever organ that was) in a robot? He did have an organic face though, so I'm assuming he used to be some form of 'living' thing.

Amusing parts/scenes:
-When yoda and the emperor are fighting in that council chamber place, and the emperor is cackling mindlessly as he flings those hovering pods at yoda, and then yoda sends one back at twice the speed and his cackling slows down and turns into an 'oh, im owned' sort of face as the pod hurtles towards him.
-The Darth Vader 'Nnnnoooooooooo!' at the end; that was just weird to see darth vader do the whole clenched-fist-remorse thing
-When obi-wan drops his light saber which lands next to a clone trooper, who picks it up suspiciously and looks around, it's almost as if he's planning to sell it on ebay or something
-Yoda walks through a door and just flicks his hands and the two imperial guards either side of him get hammered against the wall and then fall down and die

And finally, what was the story with yoda telling obi-wan at the end that he would teach him to talk to quii-gon? I was expecting to see a Liam Neeson cameo but the movie kind of just ended. I heard some talk of a tv series?

All in all, a very entertaining watch

Leam Neeson was in the movie as a force ghost but it got cut. Also noticed alot of other seens cut that will be in the dvd version. ESB is still my favourite.

[smciner1]

I am looking forward to seeing it tomorrow night!

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[suttoinc]

The only thing that made the brother / sister thing and " I am your Father" a twist is that the episodes were done out of order. But that was the point with this whole second trilogy.

My thoughts on the film.... The best movie ever, although I may be a little biased. the space battle at the start was probably the most spectacular movie sequence I have ever seen and the lightsaber fights were very good thoughout the entire movie. But I think one of the most underestimated battles was R2 taking on the battle droids!

[LowEL2XR8]

Too many digital people.
I'd rather see 100 people in suits than 10000000 digital stormtroopers.
I like digital space ships and backgrounds and stuff just not living things.

The original movies were the best these new ones are good but not great.

The code 66 was cheap way out. I thought just a lot more manipulating everyone could of got the Jedi killed but a quick code 66 was cheap and nasty.

Should of showed more of the Wookie battle. Everything you see in the previews is the total of the what is in the movies.

I'm a huge fan of Star Wars but now it is only the Original Trilogy that does it for me.

The new ones to me are just action films. Oh and by the way Jar Jar must die he ruined it all.

I could go on and on but I'll leave it there.

[loxxr6]

And finally, what was the story with yoda telling obi-wan at the end that he would teach him to talk to quii-gon? I was expecting to see a Liam Neeson cameo but the movie kind of just ended.

Yeah leaving that a mystery was a bit crap.

Too many digital people.
I'd rather see 100 people in suits than 10000000 digital stormtroopers.
I like digital space ships and backgrounds and stuff just not living things.

If it's done bad it looks too outta place.

What the hell was general grievous? Obviously he wasnt an all out robot/droid, cos what kind of a stupid idea is sticking a heart (or whatever organ that was) in a robot? He did have an organic face though, so I'm assuming he used to be some form of 'living' thing.

Yeah he came across as a robot, but what robots cough like they have respiratory problems....

I didn't like Count Duku getting owned so easily, plus what was it with Obi Wan getting crushed by metal, then later on being able to run so easily in the ship ??? Secret Jedi trick ?

Overall though the movie was pretty cool.

[XAGSV8]

General Grievous was almost killed in a space craft that crash landed and that is why he is in a suit to keep him alive.(Very similar situation to suited Vader)

[MrQuan]

Originally Posted by LowEFGLi

The code 66 was cheap way out. I thought just a lot more manipulating everyone could of got the Jedi killed but a quick code 66 was cheap and nasty.

The code 66 was a continuation of the plot of ep2. Remember the clone army was bult and they were wondering why by and the whole mystery about them? They were pre-programmed/trained with a code 66 so at the right time darth sidius could turn them against the jedi.

The CG characters are alot better than ep1. Ep1 CG was a bit obvious and unnatural at times. They were great this time round.

[xceler8shun]

Saw it last night, thought it was ok, the end just seemed to drag on a bit, not overly fussed.

I'd rather watch the preview of Mr and Mrs Smith again that I saw in the intro.

[merlin]

I thought it was better than 1 and 2 but not as good as 3,4,5.

The story was great but as MRSparkle said, the descent into evil was too fast and unexplained. I was dissapointed that he only became Darth Vadar in the last few minutes - i was hoping to see lots of new vadar stuff with him choking people ect.

Also what was Lucas trying to achieve with the theme of the movie - is he saying that love causes evil as that seemed to be Anikens main weakness? Quite confusing message.

The acting (like the first 2) was also very wooden and unemotive - not sure if that is the actors or directors fault.

Having said all that it was very entertaining and i would see it again even though i'm not a huge sw fan.

[T_Terror]

Originally Posted by GSWXA

General Grievous was almost killed in a space craft that crash landed and that is why he is in a suit to keep him alive.(Very similar situation to suited Vader)

How do you know this?

[XAGSV8]

Originally Posted by T_Terror

How do you know this?

I'm a big Starwars freak and I'm pretty sure I got it of www.starwars.com(the official site).

I saw it on the weekend and must say, the fight scenes are the best ive seen, but the story seemed to sort of drag a little bit, and key characters seemed to get disposed of too quickly without a fight at all...

[carratt]

allround I loved it.
The major flaw though was the acting by Hayden Christensen. He just couldn't pull off any of the one liners. When he said "my powers have doubled since we last met" it just seemed a little too corny, and thats just to name one!

[Rodp]

The story was too long and the characters way too fickle. Fight scenes were largely bland, you know when it's light saber vs light saber then it was going to take awhile while they looked for different objects to fight on.

The only real thing that I found interesting was the whole good vs evil thing. As was said, it was just a matter of perspective. The Jedi appeared to be portrayed as evil more than the Sith was who appeared to be working towards bringing peace.. (by installing a dictatorship, but still) :P

I'd give it maybe 6/10. Saw Crash on the weekend and it was a lot more interesting I'm afraid.

I think there are too many critics who expect it to be as ground breaking as the first. No sequel/prequel will be as ground breaking as the first as it is working off the same story, something that has already been told... I believe they did a great job, what with being restricted to combining the two stories and trying to make that as seamless as possible, while bringing new aspects into the story...

I agree with above being different with the jedi being portrayed as evil and the sith as good...

Yeah over all I thought it was a great Star Wars movie. It is always going to be more difficult to make prequels as to sequels as most of the story has already been revealed.
I loved the fight scenes and the overall story there are some great tie-ins to the next 3 movies, but there were 2 things that bugged me. The first has been mentioned - Anakin's fast track to the dark side and the other thing, is that in the last stages of the movie all the backgrounds, costumes and transport (Spaceships, Storm Troopers, etc) changed too quickly. It was basically a few months and all the styles changed to match Ep4, but are we expected to believe that from the end of Ep3 nothing changes in the next 20 years to Ep4? Not thought out too well IMHO

[pauljh74]

I read one review that basically canned Lucas' script writing. In Eps 4-6, Darth Vader is one who revels in the dark side of the force. He IS the bad guy. But in Ep 3, Annakin isn't this evil wannabe, he is stooged by Darth Sidious because he wanted to save Padme. So it's not like he wanted to be evil, he got conned. The whole bit at the end where he goes NOOOOOOO! as Sidious tells him Padme was dead because Vader supposedly killed her, was cheesy.

[zetec]

I hate the way Christensen is always bloody smirking as if he knows something you don't, both on the movies and inreal life, it's really off-putting

I absolutely loved it, thought it was brilliant. CG was excellent and overall it worked very well as a whole movie.

I agree that the descent was a little sudden once Anakin made the decision and Windu's death could also have been better, but in many ways the fact he had so much power to change the way things turned out is a little ironic. I'm just so sick of the bad guys always winning when the dude with the weapon hesitates at the last moment, it's my MOST hated movie moment. You always know something will happen and it makes me so tired of these action movies!! But knowing what was going to happen kinda saved this moment anyway, it was inevitable.

I LOVED the scene were Dath Vader says "NOOOOOOO" because he has gone ALL this way, been transformed, killed all these people and you think there might be a slight glimmer of hope that he's still hiding in there somewhere but when his sheila is dead, he finally lets go and it's almost like his soul leaving his body when he screams "Nooo". His body gets locked into the suit, never to be seen again (except for that infamous scene) and his life is gone, his last chance of knowing love is gone and it's just perfect retribution that he is locked in his own personal prison now!

I'll miss Star Wars though. Something about knowing it wasn't finished just kept me so excited. Nothing to look forward to now, apart from the deleted scenes on the DVD.

Im not sure now where it was, somewhere at the start, did anyone see the millenium falcon going to land...Nice little cameo...

[XAGSV8]

Originally Posted by hambo_12

Im not sure now where it was, somewhere at the start, did anyone see the millenium falcon going to land...Nice little cameo...

Yep I noticed it.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by hambo_12

Im not sure now where it was, somewhere at the start, did anyone see the millenium falcon going to land...Nice little cameo...

Yep, stood out to me too...I though I was the only one to notice it, everyone else said they didnt see it. See, I'm not mad!

[smciner1]

Went and saw it last night. Good movie. As has been stated, it fills the gaps. I loved the Light Sabre fights, awesome! Thankfully the XA's had a Maglight (tm) in their car to use as one on the way home. :nutsycuck

Interesting to see how Chancellor Palpetine played Anakin like a fiddle, using his own insecurities to lure him to the Dark Side, getting him to do all those horrible things for the belief that he would save his wife. At the end, when Anakin is rebuilt (anyone else got a better word to use?) as the Cyborg Darth Vader, the first thing he asks about is his Girl, when Sidious tells he she is dead and screams out Nooooooooooooooo!!!!! This is the time when he truly goes to the Dark Side on his power trip, as the reason he was doing all these things no longer exists, all that is left is his lust for power.

Just my ramblings............

[Kapn_Kiwi]

Originally Posted by merlin

Also what was Lucas trying to achieve with the theme of the movie - is he saying that love causes evil as that seemed to be Anikens main weakness? Quite confusing message.

Emotion, even love, leads to the dark side.

One point I wanna make... They shouldn't of announced Leia's name near the end. Padme should've just said "luke" and then died before saying "leia" or some thing, because in the next episodes, the viewer technically shouldn't know they are twins, it's a big twist in the plot.

But Senator Organa takes her, and she's well known as Princess Leia Organa


I thought it was quite cool, got somewhere near the 'spirit' of the original trilogy, it was more fun. I agree though, the slide to the dark side was quite fast, and unbelievable.

[EB-maen]

Interesting to see how Chancellor Palpetine played Anakin like a fiddle, using his own insecurities to lure him to the Dark Side, getting him to do all those horrible things for the belief that he would save his wife. At the end, when Anakin is rebuilt (anyone else got a better word to use?) as the Cyborg Darth Vader, the first thing he asks about is his Girl, when Sidious tells he she is dead and screams out Nooooooooooooooo!!!!! This is the time when he truly goes to the Dark Side on his power trip, as the reason he was doing all these things no longer exists, all that is left is his lust for power.

When you think about it, it's almost like one of those self fulfilling prophecies associated with time travel theories, i.e., the whole reason anakin sees padme dieing in the first place is because he turns to the dark side. Yet, he essentially turns to the dark side because he is trying to stop her from dieing. See what I'm saying? Damn paradoxes..

When you compare the sabre fights in episode 1, 2 or 3 to those in episodes 4, 5 and 6, you realize how far fight choreography has come since 1977, lol. The Vader vs Kenobi fight in episode4 is basically a series of bland attacks and blocks, and it's only really the Vader vs Luke fight in return of the jedi that you see some half decent action.

[XA_GT351]

Seen it on thursday, imo its the best of the newer epsodes but return of the jedi would have to be the best sw imo.

[XAGSV8]

Originally Posted by EB-maen

When you think about it, it's almost like one of those self fulfilling prophecies associated with time travel theories, i.e., the whole reason anakin sees padme dieing in the first place is because he turns to the dark side. Yet, he essentially turns to the dark side because he is trying to stop her from dieing. See what I'm saying? Damn paradoxes..

When you compare the sabre fights in episode 1, 2 or 3 to those in episodes 4, 5 and 6, you realize how far fight choreography has come since 1977, lol. The Vader vs Kenobi fight in episode4 is basically a series of bland attacks and blocks, and it's only really the Vader vs Luke fight in return of the jedi that you see some half decent action.

There's been talk lately of GL redoing the fight seen in ANH with his CGI technology to make it a little more like the newer films.

[Casper]

we just got a lightsaber spoon out of a fruit loops packet.... duh duh daaaaaaaaah... time to kick some breakfast cerial butt! :