Camaro nameplate to be killed off in 2023?

[GTLEGEND]

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...meplate-to-die

[MethodX]

Hopefully its not true, would be a damn shame.
The segment needs good competition.

[Vormund]

Yep way to go GM, instead of making it more available by designing it to also be RHD, just kill it instead.

[DFB FGXR6]

Typical GM short sighted decision making

I really hope this encourages Ford to make sure Mustang is in a great position going forward to take advantage of this.

[rjk74]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/28680/...planned-report

[Citroënbender]

If they follow the lead of Bentley or Maserati, Mini, the next Mustang and Camaro will probably be bloated four door SUVs.

[98TLS]

why not just send them over with Commodore on the boot,gotta be better than whats currently on offer.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

If they follow the lead of Bentley or Maserati, Mini, the next Mustang and Camaro will probably be bloated four door SUVs.

...except the next nustsng isn't going to be a 4 door SUV.

[ivorya]

Maybe, the public - i mean - Trump, didn't want to give them anymore money!

[EBSXR6]

Sales in the USA are down in this segment and last time I checked Camaro was third behind the Mustang and Challenger

I wonder if this is the reason why the Camaro Supercar project never got off the ground?

[CyberWasp]

Do they ever think that sales may be down because they got the look wrong.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Do they ever think that sales may be down because they got the look wrong.

They screwed it up by giving it the outward visibility of a shoebox. It drove away a lot of potential buyers. Why they don’t try to fix that on the next gen is beyond me. But then again, they are hot and cold on camaro, having killed it before.

[asagaai]

What’s HSV going to do - geld a mustang and sell a brumby?

[Citroënbender]

Movement at the station?

[MethodX]

Come on GM, give people a new look Camaro based on the second generation, now those look good.
Well the pre 1975 cars.
RS/SS and Z28.

[arronm]

One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

[jpd80]

Internal sources suggest a delay of approx. 18 months. No other details yet.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by arronm

One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

image

Indeed, the Challenger looks tops

[jpd80]

There were other styling directions that could have been taken
and you could almost squeeze a Monaro out of that...

[Eaturbo]

I can see a day when the Mustang might be gone also. Never say never and Ford is going out of cars. The market is changing and let's face it is an electric Mustang worth buying. People laugh at the ecoboost and I would rather that then an electric one.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Eaturbo

I can see a day when the Mustang might be gone also. Never say never and Ford is going out of cars. The market is changing and let's face it is an electric Mustang worth buying. People laugh at the ecoboost and I would rather that then an electric one.

Huh?
They're about to turn it and Bronco into sub-brands....
Next year Ford will be revealing a Hybrid coyote 5.0 in the Mustang...

Chebby can't be F'ed going with Ford...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by arronm

One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

image

The same one is also an outdated 2 tonne land yacht.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The same one is also an outdated 2 tonne land yacht.

The only reason Challenger sells in decent numbers is roomier rear seat and lower cost trim level with Hem V8.
If Ford sold an LX Mustang with 400 hp F150 V8, it would literally street the other two by miles, does so now.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by arronm

One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

image

One of them is a Pony car ....the other 2 are not

[Polyal]

I dont know what you guys are on, honestly, I think all three look great.

Those particular models have a bit to much going on but the basic looks are fine.

[jpd80]

Dodge Charger to get major revamp for 2020
Richard Truett

https://www.autonews.com/cars-concep...or-revamp-2020





CHELSEA, Mich. — It's rare if not unprecedented for an automaker to invest serious cash into a vehicle whose bones are old enough to vote. But the Dodge Charger is getting a significant revamp for 2020.

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles is claiming the new 2020 Charger Hellcat Widebody will be the "most powerful and fastest mass-produced sedan in the world." FCA said the Hemi-engined Hellcat will reach 60 mph in 3.6 seconds and have a top speed of 196 mph.

The car, whose platform is derived from an old Mercedes-Benz that migrated to Dodge during the DaimlerChrysler era, packs a 6.2-liter supercharged Hemi V-8 rated at 707 hp and 650 pound-feet of torque. That's the same basic powertrain from the Dodge Challenger Hellcat, also a survivor from the DaimlerChrysler era. An 8-speed automatic transmission is standard.

The wide-body treatment includes huge fender flares that add 3.5 inches of width over 20-inch wheels, which are also 11 inches wide. The car also gets new front and rear fascias.

Dodge engineers added six-piston Brembo brakes with two-piece rotors and a Hellcat-specific three-mode suspension system that uses Bilstein adaptive shocks.


No prices have been announced, but dealers will be able to order the car this fall and deliveries are scheduled to start early next year.

"People say, 'no one wants cars anymore.' I would tell you that the 40,000 people who bought a Dodge Charger so far this year would probably agree, because to them, the Charger isn't just a car," said Tim Kuniskis, head of passenger cars for FCA in North America.

"The Charger's reach extends beyond body-style practicalities and it can't be defined by average industry shifts," he said.

The wide-body appearance package also will be available on a lower-powered Charger, the Scat Pack model.

Dodge Charger's U.S. sales fell 4.2 percent to 26,716 vehicles through May.

FCA assembles the Charger at its plant at its Brampton plant in Canada, where an FCA spokesman said production will remain "status quo."

[arronm]

No thanks, FUGLY

[arronm]

Originally Posted by PooDog

One of them is a Pony car ....the other 2 are not

Pony car = gahy.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avd1GdpB_2A

[five 7]

Originally Posted by arronm

No thanks, FUGLY

Looks like HSV somehow got hold of it.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by five 7

Looks like HSV somehow got hold of it.

Or FPV to be fair.