Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-08-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
redozzy64
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
redozzy64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 870
Default Tank siphoned

On Saturday night/Sunday morning , my son's BA XR8 ute, which had a full tank, got siphoned from the drive way of our house. The ********* must of watched him fill up at the local servo around the corner, then followed him, or knew where we lived. He got home at around midnight and when he went to drive it in the morning the petrol cap was open and the fuel gauge showing less than a quarter.
Is there any place that fits petrol flaps that open from inside the cabin like sedans and station wagons?

redozzy64 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 03:29 PM   #2
AussieAV
Regular Member
 
AussieAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WA
Posts: 308
Default

That really sucks redozzy64! (pardon the pun)

Can't understand how some people can just help themselves to what others have worked hard for. They'd scream blue murder if it was done to them.

Before you fit a flap though, bear in mind that they are far from sturdy.

It sounds like no damage was done to your son's car (thankfully). I doubt if these flaps could keep a would be thief out though, just make it more likely that they'll damage the car forcing them open. A locking fuel cap may be a better option, if they still make them.
__________________
Reality is an illusion
caused by an excess of blood in the alcohol stream!
Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
Some people drive to go places others go places to drive.......
AussieAV is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 03:41 PM   #3
fairmont1998
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
fairmont1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,103
Default

AussieAV is right, if they want the fuel, they'll damage the car getting a locked petrol flap open. As much as losing a tank of petrol sucks, at least the car is undamaged.
__________________
Current Rides:

2012 KK Jeep Cherokee Limited CRD - Still going strong
2019 MG ZS Essence
1988 RD Mitsubishi Colt GL - 59kW of Fury
2022 Kia Stinger GT
fairmont1998 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-08-2010, 03:43 PM   #4
SM1DY
LIKE A BOSS 351
 
SM1DY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 2,779
Default

There are fuel caps that have locks on them, you can pick one up relatively cheaply from super cheap. I got one when I first got my ute to avoid this sort of situation.
SM1DY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 03:43 PM   #5
mac_man_luke
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mac_man_luke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Australia
Posts: 2,149
Default

You can just get a locking cap

I thought there was a non return sort of setup in the neck that prevented syphoning, obviously not!
__________________
2015 Toyota Landcruiser 79 V8 SC
mac_man_luke is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 03:50 PM   #6
SpoolMan
Solution Was Boost 4?, 6 & 8
 
SpoolMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23,624
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF events and sponsorship. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Everything you do to help this place run smoothly! Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: The awesome Technical and Service how to's in the FPV /XR6 /G6ET turbo threads..  and his own build threads that inspire people to have a go... enabling people to save money and realise the dream of working on their own cars as well. 
Default

All my Utes I go out and purchase a locking cap, only today sourced one for the FG when it comes to locking flaps and or caps Ford are way behind the times....
They make a nice car with all the mod cons and still refuse to put a locking flap on the FG..
Locking caps can be purchased for under $30 at Supercheap or Bursons..

I feel for your son full tank in a ute $100 worth of fuel..
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

AUTOTECH TUNED EDELEBROCK CHARGED
2017 GT Mustang Plenty of RWKW
SpoolMan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 04:22 PM   #7
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

locking cap is a bit of a deterent, a sensor floodlight and a dog are pretty good too, its a crappy feeling having your boundries and pride and joy violated like this.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 04:26 PM   #8
CFOUR
The Destroyer
 
CFOUR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 2,255
Default

i believe this happened to a forum members fg a day or two after he bought it.
__________________
Toy- Blown XR8 Ute. Black on black
"Front-drive cars are for children"
CFOUR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 04:29 PM   #9
MRFGXR6
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MRFGXR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Country NSW
Posts: 1,402
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech article(s) 
Default

Yeah go for a locking cap only about $38 and it will save this from happening hopefully. Bought one for my FG due to the fact that Ford was a little stingy in that department. Have seen them on e-bay from time to time or go to your local auto parts shop.

hope this helps.
__________________


6/6/16 build 2017 plate Race red mustang gt with white solid stripes, tint, x-force exhaust, rear spoiler, 35mm lowered Votgland springs



MRFGXR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 04:56 PM   #10
irlewy86
Meep Meep
 
irlewy86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southside
Posts: 1,513
Default

I'd be draining what is left in the bottom of the tank. My friend had a half tank stolen, they then topped it up with water.
__________________
Thundering on....
irlewy86 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 05:09 PM   #11
kcufasevigohw
Regular Member
 
kcufasevigohw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redozzy64
On Saturday night/Sunday morning , my son's BA XR8 ute, which had a full tank, got siphoned from the drive way of our house. The ********* must of watched him fill up at the local servo around the corner, then followed him, or knew where we lived. He got home at around midnight and when he went to drive it in the morning the petrol cap was open and the fuel gauge showing less than a quarter.
Is there any place that fits petrol flaps that open from inside the cabin like sedans and station wagons?

Little as##ole
__________________
Ford BF MKII XR8 Ute "MAGNET", Silhouette...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...geG0S5AM-1.jpg

Alpine Sound System,
20in Zenetti Kaotics,
King Springs,
DBA 4000 Slotted Rotors,
2.5in Cat-Back Polished Stainless Steel Exhaust,
BPR CAI,

My Install-Build Thread.

Spray Painter, Detailer, Drummer, Dirt Bike Rider, Honda CRF450R 2007...

Listening to Celtic Frost

Last edited by SpoolMan; 17-08-2010 at 05:26 PM. Reason: poor word choice
kcufasevigohw is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 05:14 PM   #12
saber
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 957
Angry

Quote:
Originally Posted by irlewy86
I'd be draining what is left in the bottom of the tank. My friend had a half tank stolen, they then topped it up with water.
No way!!!

Luckily for me my cas is an egasser...so no stolen fuel for me!
Although it won't stop the scumbags from busting open the fuel lid...
saber is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 05:53 PM   #13
TheZHLANE
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
TheZHLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 904
Default

atleast my fairlane has a lock on it
__________________
RIDES
76 ZH Fairlane 500, Mushroom Beige, Brown vinyl roof, 351 c4 13.361 @ 104mph 2.001 60ft 208rwkw
ZH BUILD
TheZHLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 05:58 PM   #14
[Tonko]
What's green is gold
 
[Tonko]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Shepparton
Posts: 3,079
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saber
No way!!!

Luckily for me my cas is an egasser...so no stolen fuel for me!
Although it won't stop the scumbags from busting open the fuel lid...
...Yeah, but it is gas. I'm sure they will just feel sorry for you.


jokes....
__________________

EF XR8 - Koni's - Cam and Headwork -3.9s - Ex VIC TMU -


1982 Nissan Patrol - 460 ci Big Block soon - Semi Gloss Black - Dark Tint - 4x 6" Infinity Kappa Perfect Splits - 5" Kappa 2 ways - Kappa 6x9's - 2x12" Kappa perfect subs - 2x4 Channel and 2x Mono Kappa amps-


[Tonko] is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 06:00 PM   #15
Yellow_Festiva
Where to next??
 
Yellow_Festiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
Default

A lot of new cars were fitted with a spring like mesh half way down the filler during the times when petrol was $1.50+ per litre.

Why, when this addition would be only a few cents per unit on the production line be omitted when the car has no locking cap?

Beggars belief.

I would drain the tank as well. They may have dropped something in there during the act. Rubber / plastic hose will probably dissolve over time and cause all sorts of havoc down the track..

People caught doing this should be made to drink what they stole......
Yellow_Festiva is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 06:14 PM   #16
Madaya
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Madaya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bunbury WA
Posts: 1,409
Default

Some b*****d had a go at my Triton CC, syphoned fuel. I'd just finished my set of night shifts, which as anyone who has stood up to nights, can agree, is a relief beyond measure.

I park my ute, at a little 'village', on the way to work, where my workmates pick me up and we carpool the forty or so kilometers to work.

The sun was just coming up as we returned to my ute after our twelve hour shift. We were all tired, perhaps this morning more so than usual. It was a busy set of night shifts, all we could think of was bed - pillow - sleep.
But as we approached my ute, a little neurone said 'hey!' . In other words, even though the car itself was unmoved and the same as when I had left it, a part of my mind was fighting through the groggy part of my present, to say, 'something isn't right!'

Too tired to consider otherwise, I said my cheerios and hopped in the ute to head on home. First note was, the fuel guage was around half, and the trip meter read around 300kms, which was about right. It's about 15kms from my pickup point to home. As I swung onto the main highway that led home, the gauge was around a 1/4 and at first I suspected perhaps the car was in need of a tune up. But as I'm driving along at about 100kmh, the fuel gauge needle was rapidly sinking towards zero. Fortunately, a couple of guys going past gave me a wave, I wound down my window, and the passenger yelled that I appeared to be losing fuel. I thanked them for the news and immeadiately pulled over for a check.

Some sod had disconnected the return fuel hoses from my fuel tank and had a go taking the petrol. The tank has a locking cap, but the hoses and filter are easily accessible.. Because they ommitted the 'reconnect hose' step, as I was driving along, the petrol was spraying out onto the chassis and road and at the end of the day, could have caused an explosion, or at the very least, I would have ran out of petrol, 5k from home.

We all know the feeling, I've worked hard to buy the petrol, I need it for my job. The price of 'gas' is going to go through the roof in the next few years, we will all be shaking our heads.

Okay, some idiot has been smart and spent several minutes dribbling petrol from my tank in the dead of night. But why try and kill me with your handiwork.

A locking cap may not be the answer if they can get at the hoses.
Madaya is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 08:58 PM   #17
myxr6
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 502
Default

Back in 87 when I was in Queanbeyan ,I had an XC and lost two full tanks of fuel in two nights.Would have taken ages to siphon 80 litres at a time.
myxr6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 10:42 PM   #18
Gaz
Got Ghia?
 
Gaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 999
Default

Back in about 97ish uncle hired a brand new statesman... overnight some ****** stole the WHOLE fuel tank.

Yep, they unbolted it, dropped it out and took the whole thing.
__________________
2007 BF MKII Ghia V8 - BA GT Exhaust| F6 Intake | Superlows | 19" GT-P's | 30mm Swaybar | - Sold
2002 AU2 XR8 Ute - Manual | Leather | Injected LPG | Pacemakers
Gaz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-08-2010, 10:46 PM   #19
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by irlewy86
I'd be draining what is left in the bottom of the tank. My friend had a half tank stolen, they then topped it up with water.
are you sure it was water?
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 07:56 AM   #20
redozzy64
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
redozzy64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 870
Default

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I think a locking cap is a good idea.
The funny thing is ( well not that funny ) my bedroom window is less than 4m from the petrol flap. Didn't hear a thing.
redozzy64 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 08:45 AM   #21
irlewy86
Meep Meep
 
irlewy86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southside
Posts: 1,513
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mik
are you sure it was water?
That's what they found in the carbie.
__________________
Thundering on....
irlewy86 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 01:06 PM   #22
Murph-51
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Murph-51's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 795
Default

yes yes yes what a **** of an act to have happen to you........... at least they didn't replace the fuel with sand in your tank....... you'd be one of the lucky ones I'd suspect
Murph-51 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 04:10 PM   #23
AussieAV
Regular Member
 
AussieAV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: WA
Posts: 308
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoolMan
All my Utes I go out and purchase a locking cap, only today sourced one for the FG when it comes to locking flaps and or caps Ford are way behind the times....
They make a nice car with all the mod cons and still refuse to put a locking flap on the FG..

FGs (the sedans anyway) do have a locking fuel flap. Its linked in with the central locking, so assuming you leave your car unlocked when you fill up, it will always appear unlocked. Not sure if the utes are different, give it a go.
__________________
Reality is an illusion
caused by an excess of blood in the alcohol stream!
Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
Some people drive to go places others go places to drive.......
AussieAV is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 04:50 PM   #24
wor57
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 152
Default

back to the old days of XH utes with key'd fuel lids
wor57 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 08:51 PM   #25
Gaz
Got Ghia?
 
Gaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 999
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieAV
FGs (the sedans anyway) do have a locking fuel flap. Its linked in with the central locking, so assuming you leave your car unlocked when you fill up, it will always appear unlocked. Not sure if the utes are different, give it a go.

not unless it is a very very recent addition. This was complained about for months and months after the FG was released.
__________________
2007 BF MKII Ghia V8 - BA GT Exhaust| F6 Intake | Superlows | 19" GT-P's | 30mm Swaybar | - Sold
2002 AU2 XR8 Ute - Manual | Leather | Injected LPG | Pacemakers
Gaz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 10:27 PM   #26
shroomies49
Regular Member
 
shroomies49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 186
Default

Heres a question about the Fiesta's fuel system..

It has a capless system.. Can it be easily siphoned? And would you be able to get a cap for it?
__________________
2010 Zetec Fiesta: 1.4l auto

To date: Phillips H1 & H7 Bluevision bulbs, K&N Panel filter,Centre console, clicon system for gps

To Do: 17" wheels and possibly lowering
shroomies49 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 10:37 PM   #27
Boosted
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieAV
FGs (the sedans anyway) do have a locking fuel flap. Its linked in with the central locking, so assuming you leave your car unlocked when you fill up, it will always appear unlocked. Not sure if the utes are different, give it a go.
Sep 09 sedan, no locking fuel flap, it came out after that sometime.
Boosted is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 10:40 PM   #28
midnightXR6
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posts: 328
Default

I had this done to me last week before i went offshore.

Parked up at my folks with just under half tank.

got up in the morn stuck nipper in the car started up and lots of beeping.

Gauge dropped 85km left. 30k left 10k left just made it to local station to top up.

Went to motor shop and bought a lockable fuel cap. only $17
midnightXR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 10:42 PM   #29
Fiesta God
Ford Fiesta
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 235
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shroomies49
Heres a question about the Fiesta's fuel system..

It has a capless system.. Can it be easily siphoned? And would you be able to get a cap for it?
The Fiesta has a capless system, but I believe it operates with a check valve in the neck, which creates an extra seal and reduces fuel evaporation ... obviously contributes to fuel efficiency but also prevents fuel leaking out if the car rolls over etc.

This would also stop someone siphoning the fuel.
Fiesta God is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-08-2010, 11:06 PM   #30
JamesR
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Traralgon, Vic
Posts: 577
Default

is it even worth using a lockable cap?
as some have said about changing the fuel door, if they want it, they will get it.
__________________
1977 MkII Escort Ghia.
2006 MY07 Subaru Liberty GT Spec B wagon.

my photo blog;
http://www.jamesruff.net
JamesR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 05:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL