turbo kit question

[finnyman]

does anyone know what these new boosted roo kits are like as there $2499 kit supports 400rwhp on purpose built engines, and the snort kits are like $3999 for basic setup now?

heres the boosted roo kit link:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-RELEASE-F...QQcmdZViewItem

[Gunns]

That is a Snort kit!

[snypereb]

CVE kits are awesome.

Mine is a CVE kit.

[EBIIXR6]

the snort kit comes with a fuel pressure regulator.. this one doesnt??

[BI6TIM]

CVE is a snort distributor, I'm pretty sure. So if a CVE kit is awesome, a Snort kit is awesome.

The kit in that ebay auction is very similar to an older cheeper snort kit, hence why it costs less. If you have a good look at what you get for your money from snort these days, you'll see it's well worth the extra money.

These are a good example of what you get from Snort now.

[bentles]

snort have come a long way i remember when it was a backyard 1 off operation or am i immagining things? lol

[dansedgli]

The manifold in that last pic looks sex. Like mine

[BI6TIM]

Originally Posted by dansedgli

The manifold in that last pic looks sex. Like mine

And mine! :

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by BI6TIM

CVE is a snort distributor, I'm pretty sure. So if a CVE kit is awesome, a Snort kit is awesome.

CVE is more than a disributor.

CVE Helped develop the kit and can customise to suit. The one snyper has is a custom kit.

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

CVE is more than a disributor.

CVE Helped develop the kit and can customise to suit. The one snyper has is a custom kit.

Thanks guys !! I am blushing !!
they are very good bang for buck kits.
Make sure when you fit you do something to add extra fuel, because if you add all that extra air, and no fuel.... bang she goes.
We have had lots of sucess with a FMU in low boost setups.depending on the car you can back off the timing a little and it will fly.
A great starting point for someone stepping into the boosted world.
then later on when you fit an ecu, you can turn the boost up and if everything is set right 300 + rw can be a possibility.
I know because I have done it many, many times.

[BI6TIM]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

CVE is more than a disributor.

CVE Helped develop the kit and can customise to suit. The one snyper has is a custom kit.

Oh, sweet. I wasn't aware of thier exact involvment in the grand scheme of things.

Back to the original question. You could buy that ebay kit and you would have a turbo car. Just remember, though, you get what you pay for.

[finnyman]

what u mean you get what you pay for... could i get 250rwkw out of that kit if i changed the fuel regulator, pump and injectors? the boosted roo kit i mean? ive got an AU head gasket and they head decked 14thou (cuz it was heaps warped) and R6 cam (Jays RPD), crane valve springs and rollmaster cam gear, i will have to bring down the compresion as well i gather?

[bertis]

thats my turbo setup :P..... sweet as kit.... couldnt do better... unless ya knew how to build it all yaself.... got a 13.39 pass at 8psi with this setup and went through 5 transmissions before the motor died.... it was a 300,000k engine and the rings had just had enough.... would have happened without the turbo with the way it gets drove.... very safe for 8psi with a walbro fuel pump and vortech 12:1 reg. its had an AFR test to check if it was leaning... Got a decent transmission and a 70,000k el motor now so i'll be taking it down the strip REAL soon ....... cant upgrade injectors unless u tune properly with an ems..... if u do get this setup u best be nice to your transmission....

[Mr_4.0]

i have the same question as i have 20thou off head and an au gasket. also being a ef, i cant control timing as easy. i have a chiptourqe, but the timing on that is advanced...... would it be safe to run 5-6psi with bigger injectors?

[Mr. CVE]

Remember bigger injectors are just bigger, they flow more fuel at the same opening time.
for example if you fitted 36lb inj to your ef with std computer ( almost double the size of std inj)
the car would get double the fuel all the time.
while that may sound ok at full revs full boost, everywhere else it will not be suitable.
what i am saying is bigger injectors are no benefit unless you can control them.
The FMU on the other hand is a very inexpensive way of adding extra fuel ONLY under boost. make sure u have a pump that can flow the extra pressure though.
We made 200 rwkw on a completely stock EA motor, with only the turbo, a/a cooler and FMU. that was under 10 psi boost as well.

[finnyman]

what is a FMU v8capri?

[Christiaan]

fuel management unit.

Like an ECU for fuel systems.

[finnyman]

what do they set you back... id rather get that if its alot cheaper than a full ECU swap, so you could just put the turbo kit on change your regulator, pump and injectors and the FMU and can get round the 200rwkw mark or more... i have EL monty

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by finnyman

what is a FMU v8capri?

A FMU is a Fuel Management Unit. it connects in your fuel line AFTER your fuel reg.
What it does is raise your fuel pressure on a ratio per pound of boost. say 4:1 ratio 1 pound of boost 4 psi extra fuel pressure, what this does is add extra fuel through the injector.
Some say it is cheating but does work reasonably well in low boost setups.
Where it can fail is if you have say 12:1 ratio and say 15 pounds of boost with 40 psi static pressure, you have 40 psi + ( 12 x 15) which = 220 psi, which is just not possible.
When you do run it you really should fit a higher flowing fuel pump, so it can handle the higher fuel pressures that a FMU will provide.
Ultimately the best thing is to be able to adjust the injectors ( ecu) with bigger inj, but that is an extra $2000 or so, by the time it is fitted and tuned.

I hope that helps ! :

[Bens_ELXR6]

Where would one aquire one of these FMUs and how much would they set the average wannabe-boosted wiggers back ?

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by Bens_ELXR6

Where would one aquire one of these FMUs and how much would they set the average wannabe-boosted wiggers back ?

CAPA sell them.
They are a vortech unit.
http://www.capa.com.au/vortech_fuel.htm
I also think Snort has them and can sell one with his kits as an option.

[SB4]

Originally Posted by v8capri

CAPA sell them.
They are a vortech unit.
http://www.capa.com.au/vortech_fuel.htm
I also think Snort has them and can sell one with his kits as an option.

I am currently looking at buying one of these aswell. Which one would be the best for a setup with 6psi boost, stock ecu, stock injectors?


As for the fuel pump, I will be going for the bosch 044. Cheers
Sam

[Mr. CVE]

I believe you can alsways upgrade the disc in them to a different ratio, perhaps capa may be able to assist you there.
prob 8:1 is a good starting point.

[cheffrey]

we use the 12:1 unit, you can always fit a bleed valve/boost controller to limit the amount of boost the regulator will see, this way you can always fine tune the fuel mixtures on the dyno if too rich

[MADED-6]

how much are ur kits v8capri. like snypers 1.
cheers josh.

[XR_Lightning]

Originally Posted by MADED-6

how much are ur kits v8capri. like snypers 1.
cheers josh.

yeah I want to know the same thing, I can see this is probably going to lead to just about every e-series car having a turbo

[mpaj]

any update on the capability of the new capa chip for the e series? can this have similar programable capabilites as the flash tuner for the B series?

[Gunns]

Originally Posted by mpaj

any update on the capability of the new capa chip for the e series? can this have similar programable capabilites as the flash tuner for the B series?

No cause the eseries edit will not boost reference, which renders it useless if you are turboing.

[BLSTIC]

hmm, so is there a mappable extra injector controller available cheap out there? I see this is being the perfect solution to fuelling on a turbo engine.

Ideally you would be able to program it much like a normal aftermarket computer, but you can't have everything...

I am also looking for some kind of ignition retard device that intercepts the EF crank angle sensor...

cya
Ben

[dansedgli]

You can buy microfuelers but why bother when a full ECU is only a few hundred more.