AU Falcon Power Steering hose replacement.

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 04:13 PM

My high pressure power steering hose is leaking, so I went to repco to buy a replacement

However, I'm having a hard time figuring how to remove the old hose from this plastic holder...

**aussiblue** · 26-09-2020, 04:55 PM

Unbolt it from the cross-member; I think they work like this: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/POWER-ST...EAAOSwoTVdTKbT and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FORD-FAL...frcectupt=true

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 05:47 PM

do you mean this nut?

I tried undoing that nut before, that the things does not split open :(

**aussiblue** · 26-09-2020, 06:24 PM

The factory line assemblies do come with the clamp pre-fitted. So if they cannot come apart your options are:

a) try and buy a whole new line assembly from a Ford dealer;
b) buy a used line assembly from a wrecker etc; or
c) Use generic line clamps or even the older model ones that I linked.

**aussiblue** · 26-09-2020, 06:26 PM

The factory line assemblies do come with the clamp pre-fitted. So if they cannot come apart your options are:

a) try and buy a whole new line assembly from a Ford dealer;
b) buy a used line assembly from a wrecker etc; or
c) Use generic line clamps and isolators, or adel clamps (or the Supercheap equivalent https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...80504#start=18 ) , or even the older model ones that I linked.

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiblue

The factory line assemblies do come with the clamp pre-fitted. So if they cannot come apart your options are:

a) try and buy a whole new line assembly from a Ford dealer;
b) buy a used line assembly from a wrecker etc; or
c) Use generic line clamps and isolators, or adel clamps (or the Supercheap equivalent https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...80504#start=18 ) , or even the older model ones that I linked.

is it possible for me to to just undo the line, put the new line now and tie if down with a thick cable tie?

Beg me to wonder why they make it so hard to change the damn thing!

**aussiblue** · 26-09-2020, 07:02 PM

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is it possible for me to to just undo the line, put the new line now and tie if down with a thick cable tie?

Possible; but not recommended as you will likely end up in due course with a fractured line. In needs to be both held in place and isolated from vibration. Power steering hoses and thus the attached hard lines vibrate under pressure applied by the power steering pump.

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiblue

Possible; but not recommended as you will likely end up in due course with a fractured line. In needs to be both held in place and isolated from vibration. Power steering hoses and thus the attached hard lines vibrate under pressure applied by the power steering pump.

what if i wrap the new hose in a bunch of old bike tyre rubber? I mean it soft and absorbs alot of vibration

On another question, why repco would sell the hose alone, if the factory ones comes with a clamp pre-fitted?

XR Martin · 26-09-2020, 07:32 PM

That clamp just clips together, if you saw it from underneath you would understand.
You basically have to crimp it closed real tight, and it will separate.

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

That clamp just clips together, if you saw it from underneath you would understand.
You basically have to crimp it closed real tight, and it will separate.

Do you mean I undo that bolt, squeeze the clamp very tight, and it will spit out the high pressure and return line?

Tickford. · 26-09-2020, 07:48 PM

Ford OE hose has a O-ring that fails and that is what causes the common leak. The O-ring is not replaceable. There's a USA made re-designed hose available where you can replace the O-ring if it starts to leak. Don't have to replace the entire hose assembly.

https://www.ultimatepowersteering.co...f%20the%20hose.

ToyotaCorolla · 26-09-2020, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

Ford OE hose has a O-ring that fails and that is what causes the common leak. The O-ring is not replaceable. There's a USA made re-designed hose available where you can replace the O-ring if it starts to leak. Don't have to replace the entire hose assembly.

https://www.ultimatepowersteering.co...f%20the%20hose.

Thanks for sharing, I already bought a new hose from Repco. Was trying to install the new hose today, but can't remove it from the line retainer!

rangerdanger15 · 12-11-2020, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

Ford OE hose has a O-ring that fails and that is what causes the common leak. The O-ring is not replaceable. There's a USA made re-designed hose available where you can replace the O-ring if it starts to leak. Don't have to replace the entire hose assembly.

https://www.ultimatepowersteering.co...f%20the%20hose.

I took my hose to Enzed and they replaced the O rings, said there was no reason why they
Couldn’t...anyway, it is still leaking. So I’ll just need to buy a new hose from rep i or something?

Citroënbender · 12-11-2020, 10:14 AM

Non-VCT six? RSH-076 for the AU.

rangerdanger15 · 12-11-2020, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Non-VCT six? RSH-076 for the AU.

Were you replying to me?

If so, it’s a 6cyl 2000 forte.

Citroënbender · 12-11-2020, 11:45 AM

That’s your hose, then.

rangerdanger15 · 12-11-2020, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Non-VCT six? RSH-076 for the AU.

thanks, have you used it before? I'm just concerned about the two O rings that come with it, they look the same as the ones ENZED put in, but clearly they failed on me. I went to Bursons and they have one for $60 that looks the same as the repco one, but same deal with the O rings

I just dont feel great about spending the $$, putting it in just for it to leak again.

is there anything else that could cause it to leak from that fitting?

thanks

Citroënbender · 12-11-2020, 11:53 AM

The hose may be fractured at the seal flange. There might be damage to the seal seat in the housing. The clamping thread could be faulty; crossed or stripped. The pump body could even be cracked or slightly porous.

If in doubt, clean all bits meticulously and look for oil stains creeping.

My AU ute has this hose fitted, probably ten years old now.

rangerdanger15 · 12-11-2020, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

The hose may be fractured at the seal flange. There might be damage to the seal seat in the housing. The clamping thread could be faulty; crossed or stripped. The pump body could even be cracked or slightly porous.

If in doubt, clean all bits meticulously and look for oil stains creeping.

Ah OK, cool. Well, i did clean it all up pretty well and it is definitely coming from the fitting itself somehow, I cant see exactly, but it seems to be weeping from the thread area itself. The pump body seems fine.

The car has only done 110,000k's, i don't think the hose had been off ever before and the old O ring was visibly deteriorated, flat and cracked.brittle. the one that goes into the rack (which wasn't leaking) looked good, and as far as I can tell now, isnt leaking with the new O ring.

I guess I don't have much choice but to do the process of elimination as you suggested

thanks again

rangerdanger15 · 12-11-2020, 01:10 PM

Also, I was reading in another thread about there also being a “Teflon” O ring

What’s the go with that? The new hose only comes with the two O rings. Or is the Teflon O ring something people add for extra security?

I wanna try and get this right!

Thanks

Nick

**mad2** · 12-11-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaCorolla

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do you mean this nut?

I tried undoing that nut before, that the things does not split open :(

pretty sure the 'clamp' is similar (in design¿) to the hold down brackets used on the fuel/brake line which is mounted next sill? ubolt then use a medium flat screwdriver to open it up? . will admit it's been awhile since last one

lumen8 · 13-11-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaCorolla

is it possible for me to to just undo the line, put the new line now and tie if down with a thick cable tie?

Beg me to wonder why they make it so hard to change the damn thing!

Try unbolting the clamp, then push the rubber block out of the metal frame of the clamp as you move the metal part of the clamp towards the rear of the vehicle, they are 2 seperate pieces.

Then the metal part of the clamp should be free to slide along the hoses, and if I remember right the rubber block then pulls off the hoses as it is a split design.

Then reverse the procedure to get it back on, and before you tighten the clamp bolt ensure the rubber block is sitting inside the metal cage correctly.