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28-06-2019, 06:18 AM | #1 | ||
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June 27, 2019 07:18 AM updated 5 hours ago Ford to slash 12,000 jobs in Europe by 2020 EDWARD TAYLOR Reuters https://www.autonews.com/automakers-...bs-europe-2020 FRANKFURT -- Ford Motor Co. said it will have cut 12,000 jobs in Europe -- about 20 percent of its overall workforce there -- by the end of next year to try to return the business to profit, part of a wave of cost reductions in an auto industry facing stagnant demand and record-level investments to build low emission cars. Ford said it has ceased production at three plants in Russia, is closing plants in France and Wales, and has cut shifts at factories in Valencia, Spain and Saarlouis, Germany. The cuts will reduce its manufacturing footprint in Europe from 24 plants down to 18. Approximately 12,000 jobs will be impacted at Ford’s wholly owned facilities and consolidated joint ventures in Europe by the end of 2020, primarily through voluntary separation programs, the automaker said in a statement released on Thursday. The challenge of investing in electric, hybrid and autonomous vehicles -- while having to overhaul combustion engines to meet new clean-air rules -- has forced Europe's carmakers to slash fixed costs and streamline their model portfolios. "We have largely concluded consultations with social partners regarding restructuring actions," Stuart Rowley, president, Ford of Europe told Reuters. Around 2,000 of the jobs to be cut are salaried positions, which are included among the 7,000 salaried positions Ford is reducing globally, the carmaker said. The rest are workers on hourly contracts or agency workers. Ford Europe has 51,000 employees in Europe or 65,000 when joint ventures are included. In January Ford announced a sweeping business review that included the prospect of plant closures and discontinuing loss-making vehicle lines to pursue a 6 percent operating margin in Europe. Falling demand Demand for cars in Europe is falling. The European automobile manufacturers' association ACEA on Thursday predicted that European passenger car registrations will shrink by 1 percent in 2019 to 15 million cars, revising its previous forecast of 1 percent growth. Car sales will stagnate or decline in the next three years, AlixPartners said in a survey of the industry published this week. Manufacturers balancing sales of electric and combustion engined cars will see margins hit particularly hard, the survey said. Ford said it intended to double the profitability of its commercial vehicle business in Europe in the next five years, supported by a restructured Ford Sollers joint venture in Russia and a strategic alliance with Volkswagen Group. Earlier this year Ford said it would seek to exit the multivan segment and focus on developing electrified versions of more profitable "crossover" and SUVs. European passenger vehicle development, including for battery electric vehicles, will be centered in Cologne, the carmaker said. Ford also said it expected to triple passenger car imports into Europe by 2024 by selling Mustang and Explorer vehicles, including a Mustang-inspired electric car in late 2020. Bloomberg contributed to this report. |
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28-06-2019, 08:21 AM | #2 | ||
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" Mustang inspired electric car"
There's something not right about those words used together |
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28-06-2019, 10:30 AM | #3 | ||
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I'm the opposite. I think electric vehicles are the future (whether we personally like it or not) and having a vehicle with the sporty lines of a Mustang in an electric vehicle seems like something to look forward to.
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28-06-2019, 11:01 AM | #4 | ||
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28-06-2019, 11:32 AM | #7 | ||
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And i'm the opposite to you i would rather kill the Mustang name than have it electric, it certainly would not be something i would look forward to, inevitable or not......it would be an affront to my senses, an abomination.....
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28-06-2019, 02:04 PM | #8 | |||
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28-06-2019, 02:29 PM | #9 | ||
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Ford is on the nose not just in Australia.
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28-06-2019, 02:46 PM | #10 | ||
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Ford will now only make SUVs and Pickup trucks as they could not compete with the Japanese and Koreans on passenger cars.
They have to make the right investments and partnerships in the transition to electric and automated vehicles. Investing 500 million along with Amazon into Rivian electric pickup truck company is a start. Last edited by kmav23; 28-06-2019 at 03:01 PM. |
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28-06-2019, 02:59 PM | #11 | ||
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28-06-2019, 05:18 PM | #12 | ||
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28-06-2019, 08:17 PM | #13 | ||
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Ford have just released a New Heavy truck that Won Truck of the Year in Europe..
https://www.fordtrucks.com.tr/Home/Index?url=en%2Fhome |
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28-06-2019, 08:55 PM | #14 | |||
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Lets hope they put them together better than the ones that rokwiz is restoring.
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28-06-2019, 09:18 PM | #15 | ||
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I bet a lot of people, both inside and outside of Ford, cringed at the mention of "agile structure".
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28-06-2019, 11:46 PM | #16 | ||
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I seriously doubt that, i know what i like and i prefer my muscle cars rockin with big blocks, big carbies, noisy as hell and the absolute minimum in electronics......i'm well and truly entrenched in the past on this subject.....
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29-06-2019, 01:24 PM | #17 | |||
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Why do some here consider a Ranger a truck, it ain't. When It can carry more than 1 tonne on its tray/tub I'll consider it a TRUCK until then it's just an overpriced ute with no payload space. PS I note Kmav edited his truck comment later.
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29-06-2019, 01:25 PM | #18 | ||
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GasOLane, I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or an insult.
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29-06-2019, 01:43 PM | #19 | ||
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.. I meant put them together better than Ford did back then, your quality control is better than the factory was
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29-06-2019, 01:50 PM | #20 | |||
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That brilliant three piece roof (like F series) that is butt jointed and spot welded together which begs rust to form. No wonder there's no Louisville's on the road these days. Pity about the cab design flaw. Plenty of 40-50 years old Kenworth's getting about still (on full rego) , must say something.
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29-06-2019, 03:05 PM | #21 | |||
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i was thinking the Same thing mate.. But I'm a bit biased having owned & operated 6 of them Over the years.. As for the roof, I've heard of a Bloke in Perth who has a Mould & can make Fibreglass ones... As for the OP My 2 cents worth is... The the North American Big 3 are slowly but surely being out maneuvered, into oblivion by far more nimble&Agile Asian & (dare I say It) Chinese Car companies.. Last edited by hayseed; 29-06-2019 at 03:09 PM. Reason: added a bit. |
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29-06-2019, 04:31 PM | #22 | ||
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Maybe it has something to do with Europe generally being somewhat economically stuffed and in the doldrums... maybe?
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29-06-2019, 05:55 PM | #23 | |||
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I am surprised they didn't use the term 'rightsizing'.
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01-07-2019, 08:43 PM | #24 | ||
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"increases synergies" = we fired a lot of people
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Europe is a giant cluster F, they spent years maximizing Fiesta and Focus sales,
making lots and lots of cars and MPVs that just can't cover their own replacement costs. Worse than that, they dictate what products we get, and if there's are shyte, there's bugger all chance they will work over here. The money wasted on One Ford proves to me just how lost Ford is. |
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02-07-2019, 11:23 AM | #28 | |||
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These generations + gig companies like Facebook are changing the way people look at cars and how people get around. Toyota are fearful of being made "redundant." As an admirer of cars I too also fear the one size will fit all mentality that is really being pushed by a few.
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02-07-2019, 02:01 PM | #29 | ||
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OneFord right idea, poor implementation at the wrong level.
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It was a giant pinch of existing Ford Europe products to use in North America, to make it look like Ford was doing heaps of changes when all they were doing was riding those vehicles into the ground, hoping/praying that F Series took off. Now that Ford US is strong, they gonna start turning out great vehicles for themselves and cheap nasty vehicles for ROW while they negotiate out sourcing of that product by VW in the next few years.... |
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