How long will my car last?

[oneredED]

Just finished a turbo install on my ED, and just wanna see how long you mob reckon it will last!

Car has done 280,000km. Turbo is a big and laggy T04b, boost is currently at about 9psi. It hasn't been dyno'd, but it has sufficient grunt to get a bit tail happy at 100kmh on stockies.
I'm gonna be honest and say about 3 months till either T5 goes, or the headgasket goes. I think the clutch will last even less :P
Install was a home job done for less than $1000.

How long until stuff goes bang?

[Kryton]

ill give it to the 3rd decent caining.

[TUFED6]

Probably longer than you would think, depends how much of a beating you give it... 6 months!

Clutch or headgasket will be the first victim.

[DEVL-XR]

I voted a week! But I'm just being smart!

[gthofan]

i give it a month because of the high k's

[Bill_R]

I'll give it a week before you get pulled over. ;)

[holmsy]

i give it a week due to the costs as well as its fun getting a new highpowered toy :hihi:

[Jason[98.EL]]

i went a month

i would love to see it go more but as others have said depends how often you give it shyte

jason

[LUXO_8]

yeah i give it a month mate........then slap in an AU long

[LTDHO]

I picked month too, maybe a little more, thats about it.

[snypereb]

Month tops but you never know. Drop the bosst and it will last longer!

[Kenaz]

I reckon maybe a couple of months. Hopefully it hangs in there for a while so you can get a bit of enjoyment out of it.

[oneredED]

ROFL, thanks for the comments guys. I wanted honest opinions, and I got them All I needed was something to aim for!

[oneredED]

May I ask though please, what would make it more reliable?

It has a good intercooler, a lot of time has been spent on tuning (3 hours on the first base tune alone). The manifold is a snort item, the turbo is reconditioned (not cheap chinese copy either), and the exhaust is decent sized and professionally made.

Keep in mind I have still got the stock head/cam, so it's not really going to have that much power at 9psi.

Is building a motor with low-comp pistons the only way to make the motor more reliable?

I just want help in making this ED reliable for a few months

[private9]

Originally Posted by oneredED

May I ask though please, what would make it more reliable?

It has a good intercooler, a lot of time has been spent on tuning (3 hours on the first base tune alone). The manifold is a snort item, the turbo is reconditioned (not cheap chinese copy either), and the exhaust is decent sized and professionally made.

Keep in mind I have still got the stock head/cam, so it's not really going to have that much power at 9psi.

Is building a motor with low-comp pistons the only way to make the motor more reliable?

I just want help in making this ED reliable for a few months

Don't go excessive on the boost, decent cooler, make sure you've got plenty of fuel and then tune, tune & tune some more!

[TUFED6]

Originally Posted by oneredED

May I ask though please, what would make it more reliable?

It has a good intercooler, a lot of time has been spent on tuning (3 hours on the first base tune alone). The manifold is a snort item, the turbo is reconditioned (not cheap chinese copy either), and the exhaust is decent sized and professionally made.

Keep in mind I have still got the stock head/cam, so it's not really going to have that much power at 9psi.

Is building a motor with low-comp pistons the only way to make the motor more reliable?

I just want help in making this ED reliable for a few months

It should last a while... Listen for pinging and don't get too greedy with boost.

[oneredED]

Don't go excessive on the boost, decent cooler, make sure you've got plenty of fuel and then tune, tune & tune some more!

I was thinking of dropping the boost to around 7psi, but I haven't got a spring for the wastegate yet. The cooler is bigger than most fit to their e-series, and it is good quality. It's got plenty of fuel until 5000rpm (self imposed limit), so thats not an issue, and we're tuning the bezeejus out of it at the moment. Guess I'm on the right track so far, thanks

It should last a while... Listen for pinging and don't get too greedy with boost.

We had pinging issues breifly early on in the whole show, and a retard of the timing to about 7-degrees fixed that, but I'll keep a close eye (ear) on it. Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.

[-jjM-]

i recon months till it falls apart, just as long as you tightend everything up properly ;)

[bucko]

I gather your using a standard ECU so back the timing off few degrees at the dizzy, the compression are pretty low on those engines 8.8:1 (XR6 turbos run 8.7:1) as long as you don't hear any pinging you'll probably be surprised how long it'll last I gather your using a standard ECU so back the timing off few degrees at the dizzy, the compression are pretty low on those engines 8.8:1 as long as you don't hear any pinging you'll probably be surprised how long it'll last.

In the mean time save some money to give her a rebuild. The AU falcon run about a 9.6:1 compression bit to much for turbo so I would re-build a engine to suit turbo one of the main advantages on a AU is the bottom end is more balanced from factory, it only cost about $250 for you bottom end to be balanced at an engine shop.

I’ve just finished building my engine for a Vortech blower and I’m running about 8.9:1 compression with a Haltech ECU

[old_mate]

T5 will die for sure. I'll give it a month

[bucko]

Originally Posted by old_mate

T5 will die for sure. I'll give it a month

I'll second that the old T5's like to brake gears when there's a few psi behind them!

[oneredED]

I gather your using a standard ECU so back the timing off few degrees at the dizzy, the compression are pretty low on those engines 8.8:1 (XR6 turbos run 8.7:1) as long as you don't hear any pinging you'll probably be surprised how long it'll last.

I've already retarded the timing to about 6-7 degrees (10 +/- 2 is standard), when N/A it was out to about 16-17 (base timing). Should I retard the timing a little more? Yes I am running the standard ECU, and whilst it can still run on petrol in emergencies, I am using LPG only.

Sorry didn't mean to turn this thread into a tech thread guys, I only made it for a bit of a laugh, but there's some good advice here

T5 will die for sure. I'll give it a month

I've got the slushbox on standby haha.

[bucko]

6-7 deg. should be enough. If your running LPG your should think about going VSI and scrap the petrol altogether. I'm thinkin of doing this to mine!

[oneredED]

6-7 deg. should be enough. If your running LPG your should think about going VSI and scrap the petrol altogether. I'm thinkin of doing this to mine!

That was the original plan; max out the IMPCO setup, and then go VSI... But I have since found out that VSI do not have any injectors that will suit my needs. We were going to adapt a system from a BA made by BRC (they're somewhat universal) but the injectors simply aren't large enough.

[Gunns]

Give me the keys, I give it less than a hour!

[Rollin]

I dont understand...you say it has the stock ecu but then you say you spent a lot of time on tuning?

I went a year, for the engine. You guys don't understand how strong these things are! I reckon 3rd in the T5 will go bang soon but just thow another one in there and keep on boostin'

If it's got adequate fuel, not too much spark, and sane boost levels, it will be fine

4.0 I6 FTMFW!!!!

Head gaskets are easy to fix if you blow one, I dont count that as "blowing it up".

[LUXO_8]

Originally Posted by Rollin

I dont understand...you say it has the stock ecu but then you say you spent a lot of time on tuning?

I went a year, for the engine. You guys don't understand how strong these things are! I reckon 3rd in the T5 will go bang soon but just thow another one in there and keep on boostin'

If it's got adequate fuel, not too much spark, and sane boost levels, it will be fine

4.0 I6 FTMFW!!!!

Head gaskets are easy to fix if you blow one, I dont count that as "blowing it up".

its on straight gas IIRC.....so i'd say he's talking about LPG tuning

[Sundeep]

I'm 100% with what Rollin said, he just took the words right out of my mouth.

Sundeep

[oneredED]

Rollin, the car is running LPG. We have been mucking around with the LPG, and the petrol has not been touched. Getting the LPG mixture spot on has been much more fiddly than I would have thought, it's very sensitive. I was thinking of a pump and rising reg for the petrol, but I don't need it as it's only still functional so I can crawl home if the LPG goes dead.

[AUTickford]

Awesome, for the price i wouldnt stress too much, from the sounds of it if it has already detonated on boost the head gasket will go for sure or maybe a coupla rods not too far down the track. sounds like a good thing almost similar to the mikes dyno tuning ea turbo[potential plus]well done for giving it a crack most dudes just dream about doing that kind of stuff