HELP is it my fuel pump?

14-12-2005, 11:22 PM

Hey all, I really need to know if it's my fuel pump before I spend any money moving the car, (95 EF futura) it just decided to die out of the blue, still has all electrics so it can't be that, and also fuel, what I did notice is when I turn the ignition to ON before START, I can't hear the electric whine of what I believe was teh fuel pump? coz yeah nothing now, advice??

14-12-2005, 11:23 PM

sounds like fuel pump, or possibly fuel pump relay

EBFalcs · 14-12-2005, 11:24 PM

does the car crank over

15-12-2005, 12:13 AM

Yep cranks just fine, just no engine action at all, not even a sputter.

snypereb · 15-12-2005, 12:28 AM

A little wierd mate but it sounds like a fuel pump!

-jjM- · 15-12-2005, 01:29 AM

yea defornetly the pump, same problem before, dose the dial still move on the cluster when u go to start?

15-12-2005, 09:59 AM

Yep fuel gauge is still working, another question, is the fuel pump internal? as that's a way bigger job

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MustangNicko · 15-12-2005, 10:54 AM

The fuel pump is in the tank, its not a hard job... Check the fuel pump relay as well

mcflux · 15-12-2005, 03:58 PM

Yes, check the relay first. My relay was "sticking" so it would randomly have issues when starting. Once it took me 40 minutes to start the damn car.

My mechanic was honest with me & said it turned out to be my relay, after I'd said I wanted a new fuel pump fitted. Saved me $$$!

Relay: $20 2nd hand
Pump: $250ish

-Dave-

snypereb · 15-12-2005, 04:25 PM

So there is a cheap option and an expensive one!

-jjM- · 15-12-2005, 06:05 PM

could just pinch the plump out of a wreck, i pinched mine out the ED and worked fine, as well it did like ...300+kms

NZ · 15-12-2005, 10:16 PM

Take off the cover to the fuel pump in the boot and give the pump a few taps with something solid while someone else repeatedly turns the key from off to on. Usually a failing pump will start running occasionally.

EA1191 · 16-12-2005, 11:28 AM

Have any of you guys heard of logic? And why do not some experts check these posts.
Check for spark at the plugs. Check for power to the pump. Check for petrol, maybe disconnect he fuel line and when the ignition is switched on, AND THERE IS POWER TO THE PUMP, some fuel is pumped into a container. The power relay can be manually closed to run the pump. Make sure the fuel line is secure when reconnecting, maybe cut off the end.
Better to check fuel pressure.
Could be something completely different like the idle control. Or the computer.

NZ · 16-12-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EA1191

Have any of you guys heard of logic? And why do not some experts check these posts.

Mate the 'experts' probably have better things to do. And yes logic suggests that when the guy says he doesnt hear the fuel pump running when the key is turned to on that he should be looking at that first and not checking for spark. None of us can claim to be experts here, some of us think we are but most are just learning. So perhaps leave the 'oh ffs' attitude off here ;)

turbo00007 · 16-12-2005, 01:38 PM

Check for spark at plugs
If no spark check the crank angle sensor
I had same problem couple years back on a NF Fairlaine
The bad news is it turned out to be the ECU in the passenger
kick panel
The car just stopped as i was pulling away from a set of lights
Never went again till i got ECU repaired

turbo00007 · 16-12-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ

Mate the 'experts' probably have better things to do. And yes logic suggests that when the guy says he doesnt hear the fuel pump running when the key is turned to on that he should be looking at that first and not checking for spark. None of us can claim to be experts here, some of us think we are but most are just learning. So perhaps leave the 'oh ffs' attitude off here ;)

Fuel pump will only run for a couple of seconds anyway till car starts
For his sake i hope it is the fuel pump

BoZZa17 · 16-12-2005, 04:07 PM

hit the fuel pump cover hard in the boot
like giv it a goof bashin a few hits
and it will get it to start! =)
only last for about 10 days but before it dies completely

jedaarr · 16-12-2005, 06:00 PM

I would check the relay as it is a
common prob with fords, once the
relay goes u have no hope to
start it.

19-12-2005, 09:56 PM

Hey all an update for your reference! ;p It was the fuel pump relay, and also a 30amp fuse wire of some sort that needed replacing, all fixed, and btw, I'm getting 17" csa avenger wheels on wednesday! (same as brute utes) wooot