Porsche GT2 RS

[Wretched]

The Porsche 911 GT2 RS is now testing at the Nürburgring, and the turbocharged terror wears a much more aggressive body than in the previous batch of spy photos from evaluations in the arctic.

This test mule has most of a GT3 RS body, but additional parts should keep the high-performance biturbo engine running cool. The massive intakes in the front bumper don’t make for a beautiful design, but the large openings suggest the need for lots of airflow. The canards on the corners and downward sweeping LED strips are neat touches, though. The bulbous extensions for the side intakes should help gulp even more air, too. At the rear, extra holes in the bumper would help release the heat, and Porsche spaces out the exhausts more than on the GT3.

There are no drivetrain details yet, but rumors suggest a figure around 700 horsepower driving the rear wheels. The figure seems reasonable given that the current 911 Turbo S has 580 hp and last GT2 RS made 620 hp.

Porsche plans to launch the GT2 RS to cap off the 991 generation, and that means we should see it around 2018. Before then, the GT3 will receive a facelift to look more like the refreshed 911 lineup. Don’t worry, though, because the company will keep it naturally aspirated. We’ll possibly even see a limited run of even higher spec GT3s in the next few years.

The beast is back.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-g...py-shots/34488

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...C3%BCrburgring

[Wretched]

Video of the beast testing.

[Express]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Video of the beast testing.

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[Wretched]

Shotgun ride

https://drivetribe.com/p/OUNZCgD0TFS...source=organic
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/sup...che-911-gt2-rs

[Sioso]

https://www.evomagazine.com.au/new-p...-rs-prototype/

Too early to call on how it drives, but from the passenger seat it feels every bit as mad as a GT2 RS should

Ten years have passed since the GT2 RS badge has graced the backside of a 911 and it’ll do so again soon. Officially, that is. Porsche has finally confirmed the existence of a new turbocharged flagship, and we’re along for an early ride in the prototype.

If you’ve a decent enough memory you should remember the details of the old 997 GT2 RS. It was a 456kW, turbocharged, rear-drive, manual car with a 3.5 second 0-100km/h time, 0-160km/h time of 6.8 seconds and a lap around the Nurburgring in 7 minutes 18 seconds.

That’s ten years ago, remember, and this new GT2 RS promises lunacy on a new level altogether. Sub 3 seconds to 100km/h, 200km/h comfortably under 9 seconds and a top speed in excess of 340km/h. It achieves that by the same pick and mix of 911 Turbo and GT3 RS parts selection, with a lot of new bits added to justify both its inflated price and status as well as cope with the sizeable leap in performance.

Technical highlights

We’re so early in the GT2 RS prototype Porsche hasn’t actually gotten around to homologating it for production, so it’s being justifiably vague about specifics.

We know the engine’s based on the Turbo S’s 3.8-litre twin-turbo unit. To that the GT department has added bigger turbos, upped the boost, added a bespoke lightweight exhaust and revised the internals to cope with the increased power.

There’s also a new water spray cooled intercooler system, which comes with a separate 5-litre tank that’ll need refilling after three hot laps of the Nurburgring. It drops the intake temperature by as much as 15 degrees to allow the GT2 RS its huge hike in power. As Preuninger says: “it’s not just a chipped Turbo S, definitely not, it’s a completely re-engineered car.”

Pre-homologation Porsche is stating its output as ‘greater than’ 478kW and 750Nm. Nobody’s denying those figures are fairly conservative, and in the best GT2 RS tradition the expectation is they’ll be a good deal more than that.

The GT2 RS’s top dog status is secure then, but Preuninger’s promising a bit more sophistication than its unruly 997 predecessor. “I like this absolute brutal power that this has, but it’s a joy to drive on the track, it’s so precise, it’s so nimble and agile and a lot easier to drive than a 997 GT2 RS, which was a brute, to the point where you couldn’t handle it sometimes. This one has more power, way more power,” says Preuninger.

Driving the rear-wheels via a seven-speed Sport PDK, that’s a deliberate, and necessary decision. Necessary for the engine’s torque output, and deliberate as it’s faster. Preuninger admits GT cars wearing an RS badge will always be about outright speed – so PDK only.

There’s a feeling he’s been stung by criticism from some on the GT department’s recent focus on driver engagement (the manuals in the R and GT3) rather than outright speed. The GT2 RS is very much the riposte, Preuninger saying it’ll not just beat its internal competition’s performance – that Turbo S and old GT3 RS – but all its rivals. We can expect a very hot lap from W. Rohrl in time then, which given the GT3’s 7 min 12 capability with a 110kW deficit should see the GT2 RS dip under the 7 minute barrier.

Helping Walter will be suspension that to all intents and purposes is pinched off a 911 Cup car, in Nurburgring specification. There’s upside down race dampers, every link, with the exception of a single connection on the rear-wheel steering system, is rose jointed. Preuninger says the spring rates are double on the front axle compared to that of the GT3, the rear significantly higher, too.

The PDK allows the use of Porsche’s electronically controlled locking differential, allowing anywhere from 0-100 per cent lock up. The wheels, 20-inch front, 21 at the rear, are shod with 265/35 ZR20 and 325/30 ZR21 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres specifically developed for the GT2 RS.


Weight is down, via the usual GT department means. The expectation is under 1500kg, though given its huge output Preuninger says it’s just not been necessary to remove every last bit of sound deadening. Nor has the rear glass been replaced with Perspex in the ultimate pursuit of weight loss. The glass is thinner and the GT2 RS comes with Gorilla Glass – the type used on smartphone covers – which will please US customers, where Perspex windows are illegal.

Yes, you can still delete the a/c, radio and infotainment, but nobody will. If you’re mass obsessed Porsche will offer a Weissach pack, which drops 30kg off the kerbweight. That’s possible thanks to some exotic metals, including magnesium wheels – these alone responsible for a 12kg drop over the standard alloy ones. The Weissach car’s cage is titanium for a 7kg saving, while the GT department has found a way of making the roof out of carbon fibre that’s lighter even than the standard lightweight magnesium roof that’s pinched from the GT3 RS.

PCCB features as standard, the front discs cooling aided by the NACA ducts positioned on the bonnet. It will, Preuninger promises, look significantly different to the GT3 RS (and hence the prototype here), with GT2 RS carbon elements featuring heavily, from the vented outlets above the front wheels to the side intakes, front splitter, rear diffuser and more. Even so, downforce should be around the same as the GT3 RS.

Engine, performance and 0-100km/h time

A heavily tweaked 3.8-litre flat-six from the Turbo S sits on active engine mounts in the back of the GT2 RS. It’s got a bespoke intercooling system with a water spray and a similarly exotically specified exhaust which, with the flaps open at heat, will give the rapidly reversing traffic behind a view the orange glow of hot catalysts via a pair of massive exhaust pipes.

Porsche is quoting 0-100km/h of less than 3.0 seconds, it likely to be around 2.9 given the rear-wheel drive, though above that Preuninger promises it’ll monster everything, the 0-200km/h time comfortably under 9 seconds.

We’d love to know, but we’re strictly belted into the lightweight fixed-back seat on the side of the car without a steering wheel or pedals.

It’s quick, hugely so. The engine sounds magnificent, too, which given it’s a turbo is very welcome indeed. We can’t believe we’re saying this, but it feels quicker still than that bat**** fast Turbo S, the way the GT2 RS rearranges your internals and makes you spit out expletives is like little else we’ve been in.

It feels 918 Spyder-elastic, if without the hypercar’s electrically-assisted immediacy. A quick ride on the autobahn sees the numbers pile on quicker than the electricity meter at an AC/DC gig. The brakes are mighty, the stability unerring, it even rides with civility – though we’ll take a pass on that until we can get it away from the flatteringly smooth tarmac around Weissach and actually drive it ourselves.

On the country roads Preuninger drives to work on, the GT2 RS is sensationally quick, the traction obvious, and his assertion that it’s as agile as the GT3 RS difficult to argue against from where we’re sitting.
Verdict, price and rivals

Very early to call, but the prototype demonstrates enormous promise, and Preuninger says the last 20 per cent of development happens once the pre-production cars run off the line. That’s happening in the next few weeks.

A different type of GT Division car, then, as it should be to live up to that reverential badge. As it stands, this prototype could head the range, so we’re more than a little bit keen to experience all this ferocity with even more polish in the eventual production version.

Prices? Who knows, except we’d not be too surprised if it starts with a five, especially if, as you inevitably will, you go for the Weissach pack. Rivals include anything that’s been around the Nurburgring with a view to setting a fast lap, though at this level it’s irrelevant, as the GT2 RS will be parked alongside them in owner’s garages. That is, assuming Porsche can satisfy what’s likely to be strong demand for it.

[Wretched]

PORSCHE'S incoming performance flagship will punch out a stratospheric 520kW of power and 750Nm of torque from its 3.8-litre twin-turbo flat six, a report by sister publication Motor reveals.

https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/17...ve-520kw-750nm

[Sioso]

6:47.3

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Sioso

6:47.3

Amazing- felt like I was in an F1-driver very very good. Thanks for that.

Interesting how all these best laps are done at sunset- ie roads heated up and retaining heat, but outside ambient temperatures dropping for best engine HP?

[GASWAGON]

Zee Germans have been at it again.

Damn thats fast!!!

[cheap]

No electric motors were used or harmed in achieving the lap time

[CoupeKing]

That's a monster time and I bet they could get a little more out of it and challenge the over-all record (almost got it on that run), and ten seconds faster than it's bigger brother in the 918 Spyder.

[solarite_guy]

Watching the tach, you could tell that car had no pressure recovery problems on shift.

I've always loved the ring. What a hell of a track to learn your marks.

[GASWAGON]

Little bit of a secret but i'll let it out now just for fun.

Porsche also designed/engineered the H.D V-Rod engine.

Have never ridden a V Rod but have seen plenty on sidelines and they do go very well indeed!

[boss351290]

I think super cars are over rated. I own two of them. A lamborghini gallardo LP550-2 and a Nissan GT-R r35. They are great cars but there not worth it. I own a couple of falcons as well and to tell you the truth the falcon is more exciting. Around a track of course the falcon will be slower. But a tuned F6 on the street is a great package. Does everything well.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by boss351290

I think super cars are over rated. I own two of them. A lamborghini gallardo LP550-2 and a Nissan GT-R r35. They are great cars but there not worth it. I own a couple of falcons as well and to tell you the truth the falcon is more exciting. Around a track of course the falcon will be slower. But a tuned F6 on the street is a great package. Does everything well.

I can organise a tuned F6 and I will happily swap it for either the GTR or LP550, send me a pm....

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by boss351290

I think super cars are over rated. I own two of them. A lamborghini gallardo LP550-2 and a Nissan GT-R r35. They are great cars but there not worth it. I own a couple of falcons as well and to tell you the truth the falcon is more exciting. Around a track of course the falcon will be slower. But a tuned F6 on the street is a great package. Does everything well.

Agreed, fantastic on the track or silky smooth freeways but get them on Australian back roads and the first decent bump will chuck the car into a tree.

They are too highly strung for the majority of our roads. But awesome on the right bitumen.

[boss351290]

Originally Posted by Sioso

I can organise a tuned F6 and I will happily swap it for either the GTR or LP550, send me a pm....

And I little bit of cash my way I suppose

[Wretched]

Ok, so these are track cars for the road, so yes, built for going insanely fast around a track. Nothing more.

Want a cruiser, Porsche have a range of cars for that too, want a 911 that is stupidly quick and comfortable? Carrera 4S or even better the Turbo (S).
Seem to be fine on our roads. Wheels or was it Motor, anyway, they took a 911 Carrera around AU, only complaining about tyre noise.

Looking forward to the F6 vs GT2 RS 'ring race.

[Bent8]

Mind blowing performance for a road legal car.

I play Assetto Corsa a lot and recently managed a 6:55.7 in a LaFerrari !

Just $696,261 driveaway

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f1GK64ogQgGHZID82

[Syndrome]

[Express]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Agreed, fantastic on the track or silky smooth freeways but get them on Australian back roads and the first decent bump will chuck the car into a tree.

They are too highly strung for the majority of our roads. But awesome on the right bitumen.

Funny I was thinking the other day should we hire a 4x4 for a Fraser Island holiday or a Falcon.

Horses for courses I guess.


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[Syndrome]

Even faster version of the GT2 RS

[CoupeKing]

[66FAIRLANE]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Agreed, fantastic on the track or silky smooth freeways but get them on Australian back roads and the first decent bump will chuck the car into a tree.

They are too highly strung for the majority of our roads. But awesome on the right bitumen.

You might be surprised. I was lucky enough to get a ride in one of these a couple of years ago. On the same bit of twisty, deteriorating country road I drive all the time in my G6ET. I know the road well. The driver (although very good) didn't. I was gobsmacked at how stable this was over the bumps. Going through corners at twice the speed I do when at 8 tenths with ease. Bumps mid corner that upset the G6ET didn't trouble the Porsche. I would be warning the driver with "there's bumps around this corner", expecting to end up in the scenery. I was amazed at how well sorted the chassis was. Floored. Apart the the blistering acceleration it was how well sorted the suspension was that got me. It was a noisy beast though and if you gave me the choice of driving Adelaide to Melbourne in my G6ET or the GT2RS I would take mine everyday. However if I was told you can drive as fast as you like......different story. P.S. My organs are still finding their way back to their rightful positions.

[DFB FGXR6]

I have never really been a fan of the 911 Turbo or GT2, they seem to lack the soundtrack of the naturally aspirated GT3.

I'm loving the more sedate looking GT3 Touring at the moment, the engine in that is more my style.

I'll have mine in Guards Red with the Bordeaux red interior please.

[MITCHAY]

911 Turbo, GT2 or GT3, I would love to hammer either around the Nürburgring.