Animal Abuse

AUIIIXR8 · 28-06-2006, 10:26 AM

I saw a video on the net last night about dog abuse. The pictures in the video are very graphic and i am reluctant to post any links because one scene in particular left me in tears and made sleeping a difficult task last night.

A sleeping dog next to a vending machine is set apon and bashed in the head with what looks like a skate board. The animal is hit twice and is clearly badly injured and trying to cower in behind the vending machine. There is at least two males involved and as they hit the animal you can hear them laughing about it. The video appears to have been taken by the offenders.

If anyone knows about this particular incident i would like to know the out come. Long shot but it would be a good thing to know if the dog survived. I hope the owner came back quickly. I would assume he/she was in the shop for a few moments.

I'm sure there thousands of us that are made sick by some of the things that people do to animals. I would like to make it clear that if you have ever committed a cuel act against and animal then you should do as much as you can to make up for it.

Anyone and everyone should do anything they can to stamp out all abuse. especially against the defenseless.

Lastly to prevent me ever going to jail for grevous bodily harm or worse please be cautious of the following:

A: Those who have or will do anything like this never let me see catch you doing it. I WILL run you over.

B: Never brag about it. You might be bragging to me or I maybe in earshot.

I apologise if this thread is offensive in anyway but I thought it was worth talking about in our community.

Thanks

Tom

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kyro_02 · 28-06-2006, 10:40 AM

the kids who hit the dog at the vending machine got jail time... or community service ... they did get done but not 100% exactly on what their punishment was

max · 28-06-2006, 10:40 AM

If I was ever to witness animal abuse I would, without apology, approach the perpetrator/s and attack them. I seeth when I hear about this sort of thing.
Nothing, but nothing, justifies cruelty to animals. Those who commit these acts are the worst form of cowards alive, and are sick beyond redemption.

4.9 EF Futura · 28-06-2006, 10:40 AM

Good call not posting the links up - its one of the few things in this world that really gets to me... im a huge fan of cats and dogs. It really does have to be one of man's lowest actions. Attacking anything that is essentially defenseless is something that 'cowardice' doesnt even begin to explain.

Even around the forums, you hear some pretty nasty stuff said about cats. Even those comments (which are usually "in jest" for the better part and probably stem from cats damging their flora/fauna) dont sit too well.

Ive thumped someone for being a bit rough with a dog before, i dont know what i'd do to someone i caught in the act or bragging about something real nasty. Probably best not to think about it.

The RSPCA is one of the few charities i genuinely support.

Jeld-Wen Falcon · 28-06-2006, 11:21 AM

Gutless cowards. Bashing a helpless, harmless animal is as bad as bashing a human.

AUIIIXR8 · 28-06-2006, 12:00 PM

Jeld-wen Falcon: As bad as bashing a child IMO. Humans can talk about it and seek help. The poor dog was sleeping.

Kyro 02: I hope they did. I hope they were put in a cell with a horny bloke with a huge.... you get the idea. What about the dog?

BlueRaven · 28-06-2006, 12:08 PM

This bothers me quite a lot as I have a cat. We love our little cat, even if he is a little ***** sometimes, but the stories I have heard!!

I know people all over that will try and justify doing horrible things to cats. Whether the cat scratched their car, was just there or whatever.

I heard a story from someone who told me that they put a cat in the microwave and my stomach started to turn. That is a horrible horrible death.

One of the things I've really learnt through having a pet is that animals and even cats, have feelings, thoughts and emotions. Imagine what you are doing to them is happening to you. Imagine feeling helpless and afraid and completely out of control as others are laughing watching you die.

kyro_02 · 28-06-2006, 12:13 PM

if i recall.... the dog was put down because of the injuries after the kids attacked with a skateboard and kicked the dog

MYVYSS · 28-06-2006, 12:24 PM

Honestly, I cant see what these sort of people get from the act itself, I know if I happened to stumble across a similar situation, I would have NO thought about the repercussions for myself, and these bastard would not be walking and or able to use their hands for a VERY LONG time. GUTLESS MORONS.

MotherNatureVer2 · 28-06-2006, 12:32 PM

My tummy is churning without seeing the vision ..... I am a dog lover .... not so much into cats but could never imagine hurting one.

These people(term used lightly) are in the lowest of low category ...... they even sit lower than my ex ..........

XRated · 28-06-2006, 12:45 PM

These stories make me shake my head in disbelief.

As much as a contradiction it is, I'd probably be so furious in a situation like that, that I'd beat the attackers senseless.

There've been several highly disturbing stories I've heard recently. One a little pup was beaten in someone's backyard by a bunch of kids for no reason. Another I was just told about - a kitten being stomped on with pictures of the whole thing (floating on the web somewhere. I haven't seen but couldn't bare it anyway.)

Our pets know who family is; they've got minds of their own much like us humans do.

Felony · 28-06-2006, 12:54 PM

If there was a worse word than KUNT i would be using to describe the cowardly ****ers behind things like this,
How can you get your kicks out of hurting any living creature?

AnthonyQLD · 28-06-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MYVYSS

Honestly, I cant see what these sort of people get from the act itself, I know if I happened to stumble across a similar situation, I would have NO thought about the repercussions for myself, and these bastard would not be walking and or able to use their hands for a VERY LONG time. GUTLESS MORONS.

Im with you mate.

Jeld-Wen Falcon · 28-06-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2XLSV8

Jeld-wen Falcon: As bad as bashing a child IMO. Humans can talk about it and seek help. The poor dog was sleeping.

I cant disagree with that.

We bought our dog from the RSPCA and its something im proud of, we are helping a dog who would otherwise be put down.

Ive heard stories and seen pictures, that have seriously made me dry-reach.

Animals have just as much right as humans imo.

Racecraft · 28-06-2006, 01:15 PM

Been there done that.. not the abuse but the retaliation..

HAd a customer come into the workshop that didnt like cats.. Now I have about 5-10 or so of the local strays that hang out there because we feed them, give them water and milk etc so they have it pretty good, stops them killing birds and the like because they have full bellies.. We beep the horns of the cars before we drive off etc so they know to get out of the way...

This guy big noting himself says he hates cats and will run them over.. I told him if he does I would simply run him over in return.. I watch him leave and he kicks at one of the cats.. The cat was too fast for him but I still felt obliged to walk up to him and kick the fat C*nt.. I had back up, about 5 drivers or so followed me out to give the guy a serve when he starts talking lip about how tough I am for kicking him with 5 people on my side.. "Nearly as tough as you are for kicking a cat you f/wit."

He called the police and the next day they came to interview me over the incident, I told the young police woman that I was mearly sticking up for the cat that he kicked and I never heard another word about it..

Even just telling that story gets my blood boiling... And I am a dog person, but still all animals have a personality, character and rely on us to live.. It is a shame when cowards hurt animals.. I dare say the bottom line is they are to gutless to do it to a person incase the person fights back...

Lightning Strike GT · 28-06-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro_02

the kids who hit the dog at the vending machine got jail time... or community service ... they did get done but not 100% exactly on what their punishment was

Good but not good enough
They probably said I did not know what I was doing I have ADD , I was bored , a mate told me to do it , I was bullied at school.**** THE EXCUSES
I hate to say this a lot of the trouble stems from the lack of dicipline now , you can't smack your kids , the teachers are not alowed to give out any punishment and heaven forbid if you yell at the snot rags as you will upset them.
Bring back the good old days (not realy old about 20 years ago) Size 10 boot up the freckle , good open hand slap on a bare butt / legs, ground them and take their possessions of them for a while TILL THEY LEARN RESPECT and tell these so called dogooders to shove it.
Kicking the skin off small defenceless animals today then onto humans tomorrow - atleast some humans fight back.

AUIIIXR8 · 28-06-2006, 01:26 PM

Sad to hear the dog was put down. I hope those idiot rot for a very long time.

Great that there's plenty of people who feel the same as me.

Just think about what part of a persons personality is so stuffed that they behave in this way.

Racecraft: If i was there i would have done just the same if not more. I'd have no problem facing the police over it either. They could take me to court, take me where ever I'd do it again and again if necissary.

Might want to ask people what they would do if someone attacked a young or defensless member of thier family and what they'd do or expect to happen about it.

MotherNatureVer2 · 28-06-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AU XR8

Bring back the good old days (not realy old about 20 years ago) Size 10 boot up the freckle , good open hand slap on a bare butt / legs, ground them and take their possessions of them for a while TILL THEY LEARN RESPECT and tell these so called dogooders to shove it.
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Bugga ...... Am I not meant to be doing this .... :evil3:

Please dont get me started on the ADD/ADHD debate ...... I have a 12yr old who is diagnosed with it & even he is sick of how it is used as a defence ......

crusher · 28-06-2006, 02:30 PM

If i ever saw anything like that I would seriously hurt them. I permanently wear steel cap boots. even to the beach :P I wouldnt hesitate to give a sharp kick to the side of the knee and a few punches. More than likely the person would be pretty f****d up and I could get done for assualt or what ever but itd be worth it.

I dont even like it when my mates are mucking around and scare my dog. Really gives me the ****s. Even when they dont mean to scare her and she starts cowering (shes always been like this since we got her. New people or someone she hasnt seen in awhile she is wary of. No history of abuse as we got her when she was very young straight from her mum) it riles me up.

Some people may have a sad about this but running over animals like rabbits and foxes I dont mind. Feral animals are a totally different situation. As long as they are killed humanly its ok. eg: One shot to the head of a wild dog/cat/pig/whatever that is a serious problem.

28-06-2006, 02:50 PM

sorry i get very emotional on this subject. I have been involved in many an encounter with people and their animals, I LOVE ANIMALS, worked at a sanctuary, and have offered my services to local rspca.

IF i was to ever see something like this. I would go to jail, i would take matters into my own hands.

I am so glad you did not show the link.

I have suggested to people (politely) about tethering dogs in utes. I have flashed and followed a few guys carting sheep (when one sheep had fallen down and is being stepped on by the others), I don't care if that makes me a pr1ck. I do it because the animals can not.

worst one I saw, was two dogs, tied up, had not been feed in ???? were breathing, but brain dead. dreadful.

Also Dog/c o c k Fights make me sick.... their is some sick individuals out their.

I am glad that people stand up to this, well done to the guy that was at the shop, and stepped up to the guy that went to kick the cat...I vote for more people llike this, and less of the others that do nothing...

bottom line : if you are cruel to animals, pray I don't see you. I will be very very cruel back. Your a sick individual and need to be told so in what ever way possible. There is no help for you, your beyond help, there is no excuse for animal cruelty.

Olympus · 28-06-2006, 02:54 PM

I'd love to see them attack my mates 50kg staffy. Softc0cks, how would they like it to be belted over the head with a skateboard.

BlueRaven · 28-06-2006, 04:34 PM

Actually a good point was raised before. Theres a good chance that if these people can beat animals, they will beat people later.

Isn't that a known indicator of someone who may be prone to domestic violence?

The point I was trying to make earlier on is that animals, in their own special way, are just like people. In some ways, some are smarter than humans... and I can't understand how people can do this to something for no point at all. This is why I don't understand hunting.

I mean, I understand hunting for food and I can understand hunting because your protecting livestock or something - but how can people do it for entertainment alone??

Our cat was from an animal resfuge place. The place you get an animal from when workers at the RSPCA don't want to see another animal put down and take them home to give them extra time. From what we know he was an abused kitten and has always been fairly skittish around people he doesn't know.

xceler8shun · 28-06-2006, 05:01 PM

Those bastards didn't get enough of what they deserved in my opinion.

No animal deserves treatment like that.

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Originally Posted by Olympus

I'd love to see them attack my mates 50kg staffy. .

Off topic, but if your mates Staffordshire Bull Terrier is 50kg... it is EXTREMELY overweight, they should be pushing 23kg at an absolute maximum otherwise it isnt purebred and is way out of the breed standard. If it is an American Staffordshire Terrier, it would be pushing 35 to 40kg and would still be overweight and pushing the standard.

At 50kg, I'd be saying nice Bullmastiff....

**Falcon Coupe** · 28-06-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

Those bastards didn't get enough of what they deserved in my opinion.

No animal deserves treatment like that.

Off topic, but if your mates Staffordshire Bull Terrier is 50kg... it is EXTREMELY overweight, they should be pushing 23kg at an absolute maximum otherwise it isnt purebred and is way out of the breed standard. If it is an American Staffordshire Terrier, it would be pushing 35 to 40kg and would still be overweight and pushing the standard.

At 50kg, I'd be saying nice Bullmastiff....

Exactly, i was thinking a 50kg Staffie would barley be able to walk without dragging it's guts on the ground.

On topic, i'm with the status quo.

stiddy · 28-06-2006, 07:56 PM

I wont even say what I would do to these idiots, not on a public forum.
I have been in this position.. I watched someone torture a helpless cat before and have had the police called, and luckily for me, the coppers turned up to see a big 6"5 110kg stiddy ontop of this lowlife and they turned a blind eye to it and charged the beaten up offender with animal abuse..
Im an animal lover, and if I see or hear of anything like this happening around me, it wont be happening for long..
Althought I would like these idiots try and do the same thing to my Alaskan Malamute.. they would find their skateboard and arms chomped to bits..

EF302 · 28-06-2006, 08:24 PM

that is UNBELIEVABLE, reading about this brings a tear to my eye and brings an anger i couldn't express. there is no reason to hurt a defenceless animal, either is there an excuse. these "poeple" need help

AUIIIXR8 · 28-06-2006, 08:38 PM

I also saw a vid of some (south african accent) guys hunting lions with high powered semi auto rifles.
They think they are men. pffft
They missed and the lion charged and a l m o s t got one guy big time. they shot it dead as it tried to run away. Bet they were wondering about thier luck. I would have been plenty happy if the lion got him.

ef_classic · 28-06-2006, 08:54 PM

We live in the bush and have many animals, chooks, horse, birds, cats and dog.

My dad tought me to only ever kill an animal if it is a threat, or you are going to eat it, stand by it.

Rage builds in me when i see my brother or sister getting bullied, same feeling when scum do this to animals.

XRchic · 28-06-2006, 08:58 PM

Was that dog incident the one in Macquarie Fields earlier this year? I remember something about some kids bashing a dog senseless in some park in that lovely suburb and leaving it to die...was on the news. The kids got caught and copped it apparently. Probably not harsh enough Im sure.

I just do not understand how someone can look a dog or cat (or any animal) in the eyes and then bash it! Or a child...etc, etc... I just dont get that. Do they have the ability to turn their emotions off when they do it???

There was an incident north of Adelaide (I think) a few months ago where there was a baby Llama that was being kept in the paddock of an agricultural school for troubled kids. It was very well loved and was very tame and apparently very sweet. Some teenagers came up to the fence during the night, and the little Llama came to say hello to what it thought were friendly people... the teenagers then bashed it with some implement (cant remember what) and left him all bloodied in the paddock. He lived though, but there was a pic of him in the paper, with this cute little face covered in blood, just looking confused.

I dont remember what happened about that.

I honestly think people who do that are actually sick, mentally, and need psychological help. And no, I dont mean some soft punishment but a serious attempt at some help, which could be more unpleasant than "punishment"...

And yes, to someone who mentioned it above, violence towards animals can often be an indicator of future events such as violence towards people and serial killing. Studies of the many serial killers in the US have revealed that nearly all serial killers started with cruelty to animals as children (among other early warning signs too). Something like 95% of them were caught being cruel to animals...

Scary... Im betting that the monster who killed that 8 year old girl in Perth had done something like that when he was younger.

Van D · 28-06-2006, 09:04 PM

I HATE animal cruelty.

I got in a bit trouble at school once for beating on three guys after they kicked a dog several times in the school yard.

They cornerned it between a fence and them and were laughing about it, I went up, turned one guy around, whacked him in the face so hard he stumbled down. Threw the next guy to the ground, then put the last guy against the fence and knee'd him in the gut.. Lucky other people broke it up, because once the suprise of it wore off, I don't think i'd be doing too good against three other big lads, lol.