does this transmission cooler look any good?

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 03:28 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...._promot_widget

whew - what a link.

Does it look any good?

Seems to be quite a few of them sold. the seller has mostly +ve feedback except for one for different product.

Aaron_EF8 · 19-10-2006, 05:28 PM

Damn thats cheap! I hope he has a lot in stock, because I'm about to order 2..

There are better oil coolers out there, but at 425mm x 172mm, these ones should do a really good job, and will certainly be a million times better than the stock cooler. One thing you might have problems with is the cooler restricting airflow to the radiator a bit.

EFFalcon · 19-10-2006, 05:30 PM

he's got about 10 listed.

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

... One thing you might have problems with is the cooler restricting airflow to the radiator a bit.

I was wondering about that. What are experiences here with any restriction? I'm also wondering where most people place them.

Hey, leave one for me - wont' purchase until tomorrow if I do. Maybe I should be on a comission.

Doogstar · 19-10-2006, 05:46 PM

I wouldn't trust my transmission fluid in something that cost $35. Doesn't even come with fittings. Get a good quality one and save a lot in the long run by not having to replace your transmission.

Try: http://www.daviescraig.com.au/main/display.asp?pid=12
I got one for $159 complete with hose and fittings, I haven't fitted it yet.

Aaron_EF8 · 19-10-2006, 06:29 PM

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Hey, leave one for me - wont' purchase until tomorrow if I do. Maybe I should be on a comission.

As EFFalcon said, there is heaps on there, I just had a look too. Trans coolers for all!

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I wouldn't trust my transmission fluid in something that cost $35. Doesn't even come with fittings. Get a good quality one and save a lot in the long run by not having to replace your transmission.

You're trusting your transmission in an even cheaper and much smaller (stock) trans cooler now...

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Doogstar

Try: http://www.daviescraig.com.au/main/display.asp?pid=12
I got one for $159 complete with hose and fittings, I haven't fitted it yet.

Where did you get the DC for $159? Supercheap are supposed to stock DC but I didn't see any (I didnt' ask).
Drivetech are also supposed to be ok.
Lack of hoses aren't an issue with the cheapo on ebay - Enzed would coem to the call. Wha't I'd be concered about is the efficiency and airflow and possible corrosion resulting in contamination. The DC and Drivetech are smaller (I think) and wouldn't block as much air while, hopefully, giving the same cooling or better.

EFFalcon · 19-10-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doogstar

I wouldn't trust my transmission fluid in something that cost $35. Doesn't even come with fittings. Get a good quality one and save a lot in the long run by not having to replace your transmission.

Try: hxxp://www.daviescraig.com.au/main/display.asp?pid=12
I got one for $159 complete with hose and fittings, I haven't fitted it yet.

factory ford ones don't have fittings either, just rubber hose and a clamp.

Doogstar · 19-10-2006, 06:43 PM

I got it from Autobarn. I would have concern with the quality of that $35 one, regardless of the flow. True, I haven't fitted mine yet, but I would trust the current Ford one over the cheap one.

Davies Craig are made in OZ, was recommended by many on here. Do what you wish, but be warned you get what you pay for sometimes. Sorry if I'm not telling you what you wanted to hear.

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doogstar

Davies Craig are made in OZ, was recommended by many on here. Do what you wish, but be warned you get what you pay for sometimes. Sorry if I'm not telling you what you wanted to hear.

Price doesn't always equate to qulaity . A marketable brand name with the reputation of DC, however, would ensure compatibilty - it's designed to do that specific job. that doesn't mean that others can't build a quality item for much less. Wheter this item is just that is debatable.

I think I might leave it for a while anyway - haven't even got a towbar installed yet and it will be very doubtful (but remotely possible) that I'll tow anything over the requirement to have an tranny oiler cooler fitted (even though one might be of benefit in regular use). Might just wait until the towbar is on and then hunt around. Maybe by then someone here has bought one of those off ebay and can provide initial feedback on it.

galapogos01 · 19-10-2006, 07:40 PM

i have one of these. its a tube/fin cooler, about 100x better then the stock shitty pipe style one. i used the stock brackets with a bit of bending and drilling to mount mine up. you will have to bend the p/s cooler lines slightly.

my only issue is the restriction of airflow over the radiator, as the car seems to heat up in traffic a little now. bear in mind i havent driven it in traffic since i fit the 3000rpm stall. this could be resolved by moving it out of the air dam a little, but the p/s cooler is in the way. ill probably try to move it up under the p/s cooler at some stage.

worth the $ imo, as long as you can be bothered fitting it up right.

Jase

mcflux · 19-10-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by galapogos01

i have one of these. its a tube/fin cooler, about 100x better then the stock shitty pipe style one. i used the stock brackets with a bit of bending and drilling to mount mine up. you will have to bend the p/s cooler lines slightly.

my only issue is the restriction of airflow over the radiator, as the car seems to heat up in traffic a little now. bear in mind i havent driven it in traffic since i fit the 3000rpm stall. this could be resolved by moving it out of the air dam a little, but the p/s cooler is in the way. ill probably try to move it up under the p/s cooler at some stage.

worth the $ imo, as long as you can be bothered fitting it up right.

Jase

Your situation sounds like mine, that is when I get around to fitting mine :P

LUXO_8 · 19-10-2006, 09:23 PM

i'll be buying one of these......seems like good value

mcflux · 19-10-2006, 09:31 PM

Forums died when I was editing my post :(

What I wanted to add was:

The seller won't do COD but is trustworthy and quick to respond to queries (and postage). Cooler will have to be fitted horizontally as it's too tall vertically. Condenser bracket will need modifying so condenser sits another inch out from the radiator.

-Dave-

stevo's XR6 · 19-10-2006, 09:59 PM

well i guess thats good to know... is it possible to fit it on a angle though??

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

Forums died when I was editing my post :(

What I wanted to add was:

The seller won't do COD but is trustworthy and quick to respond to queries (and postage). Cooler will have to be fitted horizontally as it's too tall vertically. Condenser bracket will need modifying so condenser sits another inch out from the radiator.

-Dave-

they really went ina big way hey.
I jsut bit the bullet and bought one. looks like I do without seat covers tomorrow.
When you mention moving out the condensor are you thinking of fitting it on the drivers side with the inlet and outlet facing the condensor?
Without seeing it or lining it up I'm wondering if it would go horizontally on the passenger side with the inlet and outlet facing the side. I figure it might have a little less impact on air flow. I have an Ed with the regular old fan and, IIRC, the fan is drivers-side of centre. So, I'm thinking of fitting it in front of that part of the radiator that is still shrouded. Now, i'll probably rethink that totally when I see how things fit or from feedback here.

we should see who gets one of these in first and how they have gone about it - location, fittings etc.

mcflux · 19-10-2006, 10:19 PM

Sorry Bill, I can't really read your question properly.

Are you saying moving the condensor to the left/right? I was meaning moving it forwards, closer to the bumper and away from the radiator, then slotting the trans cooler behind there, having its inlet/outlets close to where the standard ones are.

Standard trans cooler lines come from the driver's side of the radiator.

galapagos01 has mentioned that he has fitted one of these, so he'll be the one to get info out of ;)

-Dave-

snypereb · 19-10-2006, 10:39 PM

Im so getting one i need it!

Bill_R · 19-10-2006, 10:51 PM

Dave,
I was thinking in behind the horn but that looks like a total no-go with the AC pips.

mcflux · 20-10-2006, 09:46 AM

Ask galapagos01 what he did (PM him), as he's actually done it, I haven't ;)

24-10-2006, 12:38 AM

This might be of assistance to some, dont be daunted, it is easy as cake.....

HERE

The Davies Craig kit he recommends can be had for under $110, (here) with the experience they have, I will be forking out the extra $75 for the peace of mind.

Luke

Bill_R · 24-10-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EFLAD79

This might be of assistance to some, dont be daunted, it is easy as cake.....

HERE

Luke

thanks Luke. The piping looks as easy as cake but the main issue (for me anyway) is the actually cooler mounting. That article is for an EF and it looks easier than with the ED that has the receiver/dryer mid-mounted.

24-10-2006, 09:44 AM

No worries.
Have a look at the Davies Craig website, they have many different size coolers, maybe you could get a long narrow one and mount it vertically next to the receiver/dryer if it fits? Thought anywho.

Luke

Ride · 24-10-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill_R

thanks Luke. The piping looks as easy as cake but the main issue (for me anyway) is the actually cooler mounting. That article is for an EF and it looks easier than with the ED that has the receiver/dryer mid-mounted.

Davies Craig do a separate kit for EA/B/D, I'm sure they'd take the cooler mounting into consideration when making the cooler kit.

Bill_R · 24-10-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ride

Davies Craig do a separate kit for EA/B/D, I'm sure they'd take the cooler mounting into consideration when making the cooler kit.

thanks for that. Part no 680. Dammit, I might ditch this ebay one and go for the 680. I'll save with time making up brackets or whatever I need to do to get it fitted. I assume the 680 has all the "correct" brackets or whatever. Will confirm with DC first.

EB Pete · 24-10-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill_R

thanks for that. Part no 680. Dammit, I might ditch this ebay one and go for the 680. I'll save with time making up brackets or whatever I need to do to get it fitted. I assume the 680 has all the "correct" brackets or whatever. Will confirm with DC first.

you would think so wouldn't you. i have that trans cooler in my car at the moment and don't think to much of it. they have brackets that don't really line up and place the cooler on the bottom courner drivers side. i will be moving mine to a better spot and am also thinking about buying a 2nd one.

pete j

trick_xd · 24-10-2006, 05:54 PM

did any of you ask the seller if they are a high-flow unit.
if you have a 4sp auto then you need a trans cooler that will flow heaps .. as if you remove your trans line .. the return line.. and put it into a bucket and start your car you are to pump out 1ltr every 15sec

if you put this trans cooler on and it restricks the flow then the damage you do to your auto will be a lot more then a simple $35
davis craig coolers are high-flow so you dont have that problem..
all of the cheap coolers I have seen around are standard flow.
and If you do get a cooler then dont worry about putting your trans lines into your radiator as it defeats the idea.. your hot water in your radiator heats/warms up your fluid anyway so just bypass your radiator if you get a cooler..

my 10c worth

Bill_R · 24-10-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EB Pete

you would think so wouldn't you. i have that trans cooler in my car at the moment and don't think to much of it. they have brackets that don't really line up and place the cooler on the bottom courner drivers side. i will be moving mine to a better spot and am also thinking about buying a 2nd one.
pete j

pete,
a couple of questions:
1. the brackets not lining up meant you uneeded to modify them or it jsut doesn't sit square?

2. what is your reason for moving it? Is there a noticeable increase in water temp?

I've had a little bit of feedback from DC on these. I asked about the effect on engine cooling. they confirmed that they will have an effect and mentioned that, by virtue of the temp difference between the air and tranny oil, they don't really need "ventilating" as they put it. What I infer from that is that there is sufficient cooling from conduction and free/bouyant convection to not require a front mount and forced convection.
There suggestion was to mount under the radiator (sounds a nasty place) or in the mudguard (sounds messy). I'm wonderign if lengthwise between the exhaust heat shield and strut tower would work. It woudl pick up a bit of heat from the exhaust but that might not be significant compared to the tranny oil temp - going to check on that.

EB Pete · 24-10-2006, 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Bill_R]pete,
a couple of questions:
1. the brackets not lining up meant you uneeded to modify them or it jsut doesn't sit square?

2. what is your reason for moving it? Is there a noticeable increase in water temp?QUOTE]

1. well i couldn't get all of them to line up so i just have 3 in there at the moment.

2. well at the moment where it sits, the cooler is very hot to touch after a drive. i mean you can't leave your hand on it. plus it only gets air flow over the bottom half where it is mounted. i'll take a pic tomorrow and show ya.

Bill_R · 24-10-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EB Pete

2. well at the moment where it sits, the cooler is very hot to touch after a drive. i mean you can't leave your hand on it. plus it only gets air flow over the bottom half where it is mounted. i'll take a pic tomorrow and show ya.

that might not be that important if what they said in the email to me is correct and it really doesn't need much "airflow". Just plain old conduction might be enough along with the convection you get from buoyancy with such a high temp gradient.