OK I admit is real ute but not what I hoped for.

**aussiblue** · 13-09-2019, 10:40 PM

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/for...els_newsletter

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A top-secret document shows that the Ford Falcon might not be the last car-based ute from the Blue Oval

Ford has a top-secret prototype under development in Australia that could see the return of the car-based ute.

The Blue Oval in Australia was credited as being the first company to create what we know as a ute – a two-seater utility on a car platform. With the Ford Falcon ceasing production in 2016, and the Holden Commodore a year later, so the story of the car-based ute ended.

However, Wheels has seen engineering documents from within Ford’s You Yangs proving ground that show the company is working on a ute project using traditional car underpinnings.

Codenamed P758, the prototype uses the Ford Focus C2 platform, with the Blue Oval yet to decide on what the pick-up’s nameplate will be.

The document reveals that the prototype is powered by a 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol, mated to an 8F24 eight-speed automatic transmission.

The current-gen Ford Focus isn’t sold with a 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine, with the fourth-gen Focus’ most powerful ST version fitted with the 2.3-litre Ecoboost.

Come on; can we have another Barra powered one or even a V6 or better a V8 instead please?

**Mechan1k** · 13-09-2019, 10:54 PM

I envisage a newer looking Proton Jumbuck unfortunately.

flightstrike · 13-09-2019, 11:28 PM

They lost me at Ford Focus C2...

Crazy Dazz · 14-09-2019, 12:40 AM

Yet more evidence I was born around 25 years too late

Crazy Dazz · 14-09-2019, 12:44 AM

Ford should just bite the bullet and move in manufacturing colonoscopes.

That way all their loyal customers can just bend over and take it up the ____

Adamz Ghia · 14-09-2019, 01:47 AM

What’s the problem with this? There is a market for a pick up this size, not everyone wants a Ranger size pick up.

CyberWasp · 14-09-2019, 07:51 AM

I would love to see what Ford Oz could come up with if they got their hands on the new rear drive CD6 Platform.
They could easily develop a Sedan and Ute off of it. All of the hard work is already done.

roKWiz · 14-09-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aussiblue

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/for...els_newsletter

I'm starting to wonder if they get all the ideas for their stories from this forum.

Tassie f100 · 14-09-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

What’s the problem with this? There is a market for a pick up this size, not everyone wants a Ranger size pick up.

I agree.Over the years utes have got bigger and bigger.I really think there is a market for utes around the size of the 1980,s Hilux,Courier,Nissan 720.Now the Rangers etc are bigger than Landcruisers and F150,s were.Not everyone needs a ute the size of a small truck for running around building sites etc.

Brazen · 14-09-2019, 12:29 PM

This would sell bonkers. So many young guys and girls would love a Ute like this. Being 4 cylinder petrol it will be dirt cheap to run and reliable

Commodore and Falcon utes are getting on now. So many farmers out here I could see them wandering into town and putting down 20k on one of these for their son or daughter. Cheap, reliable, safe. And good for the trips between home and uni or work

ozrunner · 14-09-2019, 12:53 PM

Could be a good seller having useful attributes but it's not a real ute as we know it but a mini dual cab

burnz · 14-09-2019, 12:57 PM

what I like it's a unibody not cab chassis..

BradEL · 14-09-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Yet more evidence I was born around 25 years too late

I know how you feel with that one haha

XR Martin · 14-09-2019, 01:06 PM

I remember hearing about this earlier in the year, I suspect it will be for Africa and South America where those little utes are still popular.

Sprintey · 14-09-2019, 03:01 PM

Right idea, wrong platform. Mustang based 'Ranchero' would be amazing for those of us in hotter, drier areas like Oz and the US South/South America/South Africa/ME.

That said, if you've seen Russian snow footage and people driving stuff like little AE95 Corolla wagons through it, this would be a hit with the AWD in the snowy Northern realms.

Sprintey · 14-09-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiblue

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/for...els_newsletter

Come on; can we have another Barra powered one or even a V6 or better a V8 instead please?

We'll have to make those ourselves with a domestically owned company.

minheim · 14-09-2019, 06:32 PM

Could fill a nice niche for tradies and farmers that don't need a massive diesel platform to lug around smaller loads.

Nu66et · 14-09-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

I envisage a newer looking Proton Jumbuck unfortunately.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Courier

Someone's already started a 2021 entry

naddis01 · 14-09-2019, 07:57 PM

Farmers won't touch this with a four foot pole if it has no clearance, can't carry near a tonne and is not diesel.

Tonz · 14-09-2019, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Farmers won't touch this with a four foot pole if it has no clearance, can't carry near a tonne and is not diesel.

petrol motor = hot motor + long grass. FIRE

ozrunner · 14-09-2019, 08:29 PM

Diesel motor = hot DPF + long grass = Fire

Yellow_Festiva · 14-09-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Farmers won't touch this with a four foot pole if it has no clearance, can't carry near a tonne and is not diesel.

Farmers perhaps no, but what about the inner city and suburban businesses that needs something that is light on fuel, easy to park and can carry several hundred kg?

Blue Roo · 14-09-2019, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonz

petrol motor = hot motor + long grass. FIRE

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

Diesel motor = hot DPF + long grass = Fire

Petrol/Diesel Motor = Hot Motor/DPF + Long Grass = Fire + Insurance Claim = Law Suit

Itsme · 14-09-2019, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Farmers won't touch this with a four foot pole if it has no clearance, can't carry near a tonne and is not diesel.

Farmers turned away from 2wd holden and ford utes a very long time ago so this new ute concept is not designed for them.

Cheers.

naddis01 · 14-09-2019, 09:53 PM

I was simply pointing out that farmers would not be interested in this vehicle as others had suggested they would in previous posts.

Tassie f100 · 14-09-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Roo

Petrol/Diesel Motor = Hot Motor/DPF + Long Grass = Fire + Insurance Claim = Law Suit

Hot exhausts have been starting fires in long grass long before DPF, and I don,t recall ever hearing of Law suits being launched as a result of said fires.

hayseed · 14-09-2019, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Farmers won't touch this with a four foot pole if it has no clearance, can't carry near a tonne and is not diesel.

I Dunno so Much. They bought a Shyte load of Subaru Brumbies back in the Day.. You still see 'em getting around..

naddis01 · 14-09-2019, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

I Dunno so Much. They bought a Shyte load of Subaru Brumbies back in the Day.. You still see 'em getting around..

If I'm not mistaken, pre diesel fuel rebate scheme?

hayseed · 15-09-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

If I'm not mistaken, pre diesel fuel rebate scheme?

You are Mistaken, The Offroad Fuel tax rebate has been around for ever & a Day.. (Or at least 40 yrs that I know Of)

naddis01 · 15-09-2019, 09:48 AM

You're probably right about that. However I stand by my comment in relation to this type of vehicle. I should have added 4x4 to my list though.

The problem with the Brumby was it was too easy to get bogged despite it being 4x4. As soon as the tiny tyres sink into the mud a bit you got beached. Dad had one back in the day as a work vehicle. The company soon got rid of them for that reason. Also when you drove them down a dirt road, they would bottom out on the dirt ridge you get between the tyre tracks.