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Join Date: Jan 2021
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Hi all!
First post here (and Ford owner). Excited to be on the forums. I’ve bought a used FORD FOCUS AMBIENTE (Manual) 4 Door Hatch PETROL 1.6 litre, Direct Inj {92KW}, 194kms on the closk It drove extremely well (did 20km test drive) and I love its’ style. However, the power steering no longer works- error says “Power steer assist failure”. From bit of research- it seems pretty common... I’ve done a bit of car work before, but I’m happy buy the part (second hand) & pay to have it installed by a mechanic as i presume it’s too arduous/requires special tools? The previous owner tells me it needs the “Electric steering rack” (or according to his mechanic/brother...) I’m really struggling to identify which exact part I need. Any mechanics to recommend in Sydney or Coffs Harbour? Can anyone help me identify which part to buy? Anything to be aware of- eg is buying a spare a bad idea as it may too fail? My new joy: ![]() |
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if it is a common fault I would be wary of a second hand unit as you may find similar issues
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Also, any ideas on which part number I need? I've searched- there are so many different ones and I'm not clear what model I have |
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I've also just been told (by a mechanic over the phone) that my model could have any of 4 steering rack.
How can I verify which one mine has? |
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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There are a few different racks pending on month/year/model etc. You will need to supply this information of a VIN number will be even better to narrow down which exact one you need.
Below is an image of the rack that sits just behind and lower of the engine, connects to your steering column and both wheels (thats how your turn). If you pass on the information we can provide the correct part number and even quote to get the part as well (note they are not cheap new anyway). Once replaced they also need to be programmed to the car. Hope this helps.. LW Steering Rack.JPG |
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I called the dealership who gave me the part number: HV6Z3504EW. But there don't seem to be many for sale (or any "reconditioned" options). This is apparently that part (taken from photos in an eBay photo). But the part number isn't written on it. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DCUAA...SU/s-l1600.jpg
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No safe way unless the wrecker guarantees the item is safe and will work in the vehicle. Try and avoid one from a vehicle thats been in a major crash as it cold have impact damage to the rack. As far as I am aware the electric racks are not rebuildable, you could try someone like Active Power Steering in Marrackville and they would confirm. Other than that you can do as they used to say (if your old enough) and let you fingers do the walking through the yellow pages lol!! Good luck! |
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I presume what you're saying is that the Service Part number will not match an engineering number? Forgive me if I'm confused- this ebay listing here says it is the same "part" number. So can't I deduce that its’ engineering number matches? I found a wrecker with the part (for Ambient, LW model). Should I be asking them what size wheels it has (ask them to measure)? Edit: Couldn’t I ask the the wrecker for the VIN then call a Ford dealer to get the part number? Tedious to call each time though... Last edited by mcfee03; 13-01-2021 at 07:09 PM. |
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Ok cool.
Can anyone help- how can I get the part number of my steering rack without removing it/any parts from my Focus? Also, I've contacted "westernpowersteering.co.uk" who confirm that the part will match my car (they checked the VIN). Anyone had experience with them? I presume this is "safer" than buying from a wrecker? The item: https://shop.westernpowersteering.co...63/FORFER.html Quote:
Also, I'm still confused about the part number. Ford told me "HV6Z3504EW". So should that be a sticker on the part itself? Last edited by mcfee03; 14-01-2021 at 10:40 AM. |
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Also, how much should I be expecting to pay on top for labour- eg hours & cost?
Such as if it's a big/complicated job... |
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To give you an example: Falcon shock absorber has an engineering part number of 8R29-18045-GD written on the label, but the service part number is BG 18045 G so they are not always the same, but can be. Suggest you get the part number off the rack on your car and go from there!! That would be your first step. |
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You would have as that of who ever you intend to take it to as hourly rates can differ, but I would guess between 2-3 hours to do the job completely.
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Thanks.
Maybe this should have been an earlier question- but is there a way to verify it’s definitely the steering rack? Eg not the computer or something? I don’t want to order the rack to find it it was caused by something else... |
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You would need to have it checked for codes and then correctly diagnosed because something like a broken wire or no power to the rack module etc can also cause issues similar to what you described.
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Ok cool, I can borrow a ODB 2 device (ELM327).
Will that be able to give some indication/diagnosis? Do I need a specific app for ford to work with it? Normally I'd use Torque Pro Last edited by mcfee03; 15-01-2021 at 10:59 AM. |
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You can check the module using ForScan and an OBD reader.
Check the PSCM. It will report a VIN. This should match your car. If not you need the module re-programmed with AS-BUILT data, an update will not work. My module displayed a VIN that started with 79812 and it would not work. My VIN starts with WF0M. If the above is true then get Ford or a friend-of-a-friend to reflash. Much cheaper than a whole rack.
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My VIN starts with WF0K, does that sound like the only way to do it is via Ford reflashing? |
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If it doesn’t show your VIN on the PSCM or it shows as deactivated then you need to re-flash and see if that works. As-built is what it was originally flashed with from factory, only Ford is authorised to do this. Other mechanics are authorised from Ford to update the modules but not to re-flash with as-built software. That’d as far as I’m aware.
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I should have asked before- am I doing any harm to the car by driving with the power steering failure? I am likely to do ~2,000km by the time I can have it fixed. |
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Join Date: Jan 2021
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I finally found a Power Steering business in Australia- who sold be a verified rack (although not reconditioned).
Now it's time to get someone to install it. I don't have the tools to do it myself. Can anyone recommend someone in Sydney? Or is anyone here able to lend a hand in doing it? Cheers |
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