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Old 26-10-2015, 11:38 AM   #1
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I have seen the ad a few times and thought " why cannt Ford have an ad like that" gets to the point. In Ford's "Future" ad no mention of the Falcon..It seems like Ford have given up on the Falcon..Future is Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo, Kuga, Ranger and Everest...see how that goes...
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I noticed it too, the new Ford ad doesn't feature the Falcon at all, we probably wont see anymore TV advertising with the Falcon. Sad, but the way it is for Falcon in Australia.
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Old 26-10-2015, 11:45 AM   #3
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The reason why Holden advertise the commodore is the name will continue, but being built outside of Aus.

The Falcon name is ending, why spend money on advertising a dead product or a product that very minimal amount of people were buying.

If you noticed the Mustang is front and center of the Ford ad as this is the latest product.
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I have seen the ad a few times and thought " why cannt Ford have an ad like that" gets to the point. In Ford's "Future" ad no mention of the Falcon..It seems like Ford have given up on the Falcon..Future is Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo, Kuga, Ranger and Everest...see how that goes...
Well, yes they *have* given up on the Falcon, I thought that was pretty clear when they made the closure announcement...Holden have another year to sell Commodores than Ford does with the Falcon. It's just a shame that the rest of Ford's marketing "effort" for their products to carry the can forward is so outrageously crap.
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The reason why Holden advertise the commodore is the name will continue, but being built outside of Aus.

The Falcon name is ending, why spend money on advertising a dead product or a product that very minimal amount of people were buying.

If you noticed the Mustang is front and center of the Ford ad as this is the latest product.
No no spend millions selling a car that is almost done and they don't have any stock to sell.
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Just a side note, I'm not buying a Holden because an nine year old girl said too.
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But jeez I'd have to say that I'd test drive a Redline or HSV just LISTENING to their new ads. The other fluffy ad does nothing for me.

I'm still inclined to download the highest res version of that old BA ad on the winding roads and watch that til the day i cease and desist this world.
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The reason why Holden advertise the commodore is the name will continue, but being built outside of Aus.
I can't wait for that FWD abomination.

IMO Ford not advertising the Falcon has been the right thing to do.

Holden never learn. They are the masters of spending money for nothing. Why there is even a VFII is beyond me.
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Holden never learn. They are the masters of spending money for nothing. Why there is even a VFII is beyond me.
Why not? They're running until 2017, still selling approx. 2000 cars a month give or take. They have updated tech and engines. So we're to criticise a company for giving more to the consumer?
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If we could address the topic without getting involved in a slanging match, this thread will last a lot longer.
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I have seen the ad a few times and thought " why cannt Ford have an ad like that" gets to the point. In Ford's "Future" ad no mention of the Falcon..It seems like Ford have given up on the Falcon..Future is Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo, Kuga, Ranger and Everest...see how that goes...
Go try an order a falcon see how you go. I did tried today. Falcon is dead, deal with it.
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Because Holden actually have a marketing team and spend money on marketing. Amazing what an actual professional marketing team can do, if you actually have one. All that Ford can muster now is photograph a middle-aged bloke raising his hands in dismay at the edge of a cliff, daring himself to "Go Further", or some thing like that...
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I can't wait for that FWD abomination.

IMO Ford not advertising the Falcon has been the right thing to do.

Holden never learn. They are the masters of spending money for nothing. Why there is even a VFII is beyond me.
Yeah they really do never learn.

Anyone would think they were in the business of selling cars...
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Go try an order a falcon see how you go. I did tried today. Falcon is dead, deal with it.
What did you try to order?
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Was wondering how long it would take for this topic to pop up. lol
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What did you try to order?
I can get what I want I was just astounded at the wait time although it's understandable.
Winter White manual lux pack turbo Ute.
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DJM83 and if you wanted a HiLux..you would get it in a week or two..Supply is Fords achilles heel..and they have never fixed it...I enquired about a new Landcruiser VX..delivery in a week....
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I can get what I want I was just astounded at the wait time although it's understandable.
Winter White manual lux pack turbo Ute.
What's the wait time that they're quoting you?
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DJM83 and if you wanted a HiLux..you would get it in a week or two..Supply is Fords achilles heel..and they have never fixed it...I enquired about a new Landcruiser VX..delivery in a week....
When I ordered a Hilux I was fed up waiting after 4 months and no firm delivery date so I got my deposit back and bought something else.
Supply is not solely a Ford issue.
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Because Holden actually have a marketing team and spend money on marketing. Amazing what an actual professional marketing team can do, if you actually have one. All that Ford can muster now is photograph a middle-aged bloke raising his hands in dismay at the edge of a cliff, daring himself to "Go Further", or some thing like that...
Funny how Holden's marketing team only is able to constantly sell Commodore at good numbers. I wonder how it will go when Commo goes FWD.
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What's the wait time that they're quoting you?
Around 4 months.
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My nine year old little man asked exactly the same question when he saw the Commodore Ad, why don't Ford advertise the Falcon, I showed him this


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I can get what I want I was just astounded at the wait time although it's understandable.
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Yes I see the two listed on Carsales both have cloth trim

Kind of strange the XR6T sedan seems to have lux pack by default and the ute does not??
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Yes I see the two listed on Carsales both have cloth trim

Kind of strange the XR6T sedan seems to have lux pack by default and the ute does not??
More then likely both sell easier like that.
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Yes I see the two listed on Carsales both have cloth trim

Kind of strange the XR6T sedan seems to have lux pack by default and the ute does not??
Yeah im not 100% going to pounce but a change in lifestyle will warrant a ute. There isnt even any good FG2 utes around hence why i went to look at new. Id prefer white but have second preferences.

Ive found a cpl of ex demo utes but yeah not sold on them and they arent the colours i want.
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There's two brand spanking new FG-X XR8's fer sale in Gatton, if you want one. Winter white too!
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So if it's a 4 month wait for a turbo ute, I need to order mine by June at the latest? Good thing I'm back from the States by then!
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So if it's a 4 month wait for a turbo ute, I need to order mine by June at the latest? Good thing I'm back from the States by then!
Was told no more orders after march as they have more orders than the plant can produce atm.
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I can't wait for that FWD abomination.

IMO Ford not advertising the Falcon has been the right thing to do.

Holden never learn. They are the masters of spending money for nothing. Why there is even a VFII is beyond me.
It will be like a Mondeo.... is that an abomination?

The V8's sell, why not upgrade and sell them.
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