Vfacts november 2020

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-12-2020, 08:58 PM

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...ross-the-board

"Australia’s monthly new vehicles sales shot up in November – the first positive result in more than two-and-a-half years."

Ford finished November in 4th place, up 33.2%

Numbers -

Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 227
Ford Escape 453
Ford Everest 710
Ford Fiesta 10
Ford Focus 80
Ford Mondeo 11
Ford Mustang 230
Ford Puma 152
Ford Ranger 4X2 431
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,829
Ford Transit Custom 342
Ford Transit Heavy 138
Ford Total 6,613

Franco Cozzo · 03-12-2020, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 227
Ford Fiesta 10
Ford Focus 80
Ford Mondeo 11
Ford Mustang 230
Ford Puma 152
Ford Transit Custom 342
Ford Transit Heavy 138

lol

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Rob 351 · 04-12-2020, 07:29 AM

While only a fraction of Toyota sales, (like every other manufacturer) very encouraging for the blue oval.
Ranger PX3 4x4 just keeps selling.. Only about 30 units behind the new Hilux is extraordinary imo..Really shows how good the Ranger is and it’s building a great reputation in this country as the best Dual cab 4x4 and with a much improved PX4 coming next year, expect the Ranger to keep powering on for the foreseeable future...
Probably the best numbers we’ve seen for Everest also and encouraging numbers also for the new Escape..
Mustang, despite what some might like to believe, just keeps ticking along...
Number 1 sports car under 80k in this country pretty much since it was introduced 5-6 years ago..
Overall, taking Toyota out of the equation, very encouraging result for Ford and it’s dealers...

HSVKILLA · 04-12-2020, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

lol

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You may Lol but at least their not extinct.

Bossxr8 · 04-12-2020, 10:10 AM

Everest just keeps improving. It’s been building every year since it was released. The all new one is going to push it even further. It took Ranger years to catch Hilux. I reckon another 3 or 4 years and it will start getting close to Prado. They are really pushing the new one style wise. More US large SUV style.

unkey · 04-12-2020, 10:49 AM

The Puma hasn’t caught on at all yet .

kevino · 04-12-2020, 11:56 AM

Focus. 80?
Supply issues due covid maybe??

Franco Cozzo · 04-12-2020, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HSVKILLA

You may Lol but at least their not extinct.

By 2025 there'll be no Mustang in our market and the range will consist of Ranger 4x4/4x2, Transit and Everest.

They'll be a two horse race like Isuzu Ute

BENT_8 · 04-12-2020, 02:23 PM

Looks like the supposed hatred of the Hilux has diminished and the sheeple have flocked back.

No1 outright and 4x4 for November.

ozrunner · 04-12-2020, 03:21 PM

What's going on as where are Tesla sales as they are apparently bigger than Toyota et al and have 3 years left to make ice cars extinct

**anobserver** · 04-12-2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

By 2025 there'll be no Mustang in our market and the range will consist of Ranger 4x4/4x2, Transit and Everest.

They'll be a two horse race like Isuzu Ute

At least the ford teams will still have options.

MITCHAY · 04-12-2020, 07:26 PM

Is it just Covid or is one model making up 64% of total sales a long term trend for Ford AU? I'd be worried about that in the best of times to be honest.

Syndrome · 04-12-2020, 09:17 PM

How long will this increase in sales last?

FlipXW · 04-12-2020, 09:31 PM

People are flocking to the cheap Chinese junk. Im seeing those new LDV utes everywhere.

MITCHAY · 04-12-2020, 09:36 PM

I see a few tradies driving those Chinese crap utes and I shake my head

**anobserver** · 05-12-2020, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

How long will this increase in sales last?

Who knows? As long as people have money to spend, whether thats from a job or otherwise.

I shake my head.

**buggerlugs** · 05-12-2020, 07:45 AM

I see a lot of those little MG SUV's on the road. Are they any good ?

csv8 · 05-12-2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

What's going on as where are Tesla sales as they are apparently bigger than Toyota et al and have 3 years left to make ice cars extinct

Tesla doesn't report to VFacts.

csv8 · 05-12-2020, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I see a lot of those little MG SUV's on the road. Are they any good ?

Price sells.. 7 year warranty. They must have confidence in their cars. Cheapest Ford is $30k.

Syndrome · 05-12-2020, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Price sells.. 7 year warranty. They must have confidence in their cars. Cheapest Ford is $30k.

MG : 2,021 sales in November
LDV : 1,358 " "
Haval : ???

The Chinese aren't coming - they are already here with 4% of the New car market last month.

Adamz Ghia · 05-12-2020, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FlipXW

People are flocking to the cheap Chinese junk. Im seeing those new LDV utes everywhere.

I’m in the market for a dual cab, and for value for money nothing comes close to a T60. I can buy a brand new T60 Luxe for $33k, a Ranger equivalent goes for $65k, even a Triton goes for over $50k. To buy a Ranger and the same price point I’m looking at a 7 year old, 160k km XLT.

If the difference in price was a few thousand then I would go one of the majors, but when we’re talking tens of thousands of dollars they have to be considered.

Franco Cozzo · 05-12-2020, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I see a few tradies driving those Chinese crap utes and I shake my head

That's what I think when I see people in VW Amarok

There's a bloke getting around in a LDV T60 every morning here locally, he's usually on the receiving end of an overtake because he drives 20 under the speed limit on the highway.

I don't mind the look of them, the new GWM one is going to be interesting.

I think I'd go for the Chinese Special over the Thailand Special, they are on point for value.

naddis01 · 05-12-2020, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

I’m in the market for a dual cab, and for value for money nothing comes close to a T60. I can buy a brand new T60 Luxe for $33k, a Ranger equivalent goes for $65k, even a Triton goes for over $50k. To buy a Ranger and the same price point I’m looking at a 7 year old, 160k km XLT.

If the difference in price was a few thousand then I would go one of the majors, but when we’re talking tens of thousands of dollars they have to be considered.

What will the 7 year old 160000km T60 be worth?

Ranger XLT is $56k driveaway.

Franco Cozzo · 05-12-2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

What will the 7 year old 160000km T60 be worth?

Is resale value the only important metric of a car? If so we'd be the Australian Toyota Forum

naddis01 · 05-12-2020, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Is resale value the only important metric of a car? If so we'd be the Australian Toyota Forum

No of course not but if you are buying something only because it is cheaper initially, surely you need to consider it. You may end up paying more in the long run for the cheaper option.

jpd80 · 05-12-2020, 10:12 AM

So what was behind the dramatic increase in Ford’s combined SUV sales?
Endura, Everest, Escape and Puma all combined for a healthy jump....

Buyers liked what they saw and could afford to buy what they wanted.
Maybe a few more of those plain speaking ads and see what happens.

hayseed · 05-12-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

What will the 7 year old 160000km T60 be worth?

About the same (or maybe a bit more) as 14yr Old 320,000Km Ranger...

besides; resale value is, ALL about percentage of New Sale Price....

BENT_8 · 05-12-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

I’m in the market for a dual cab, and for value for money nothing comes close to a T60. I can buy a brand new T60 Luxe for $33k, a Ranger equivalent goes for $65k, even a Triton goes for over $50k. To buy a Ranger and the same price point I’m looking at a 7 year old, 160k km XLT.

If the difference in price was a few thousand then I would go one of the majors, but when we’re talking tens of thousands of dollars they have to be considered.

Friend of mine bought one as a business vehicle to tow caravans as he owns a van yard, loves it, his offsider was equally as impressed and bought one too.
The key to these isnt longevity, its about getting into a new ute at an affordable price, then flip it for another in a few years.

Dr Smith · 05-12-2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

So what was behind the dramatic increase in Ford’s combined SUV sales?
Endura, Everest, Escape and Puma all combined for a healthy jump....

Buyers liked what they saw and could afford to buy what they wanted.
Maybe a few more of those plain speaking ads and see what happens.

It would be interesting to see what was the % increase by state. Vic came out of lockdown in Nov (25% of Aus. economy) and I know some businesses have had their best November ever and some their best month ever.

jpd80 · 05-12-2020, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

It would be interesting to see what was the % increase by state. Vic came out of lockdown in Nov (25% of Aus. economy) and I know some businesses have had their best November ever and some their best month ever.

Whatever is going on, it’s great news for Ford in November,
it could be as simple as stock arriving and being sold as soon
as it arrives. Fingers crossed they back it up in December.