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Old 28-09-2012, 08:10 PM   #1
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Default thinking of swapping my ba turbo for a r34 4 door gt-t?

So was going to sell my car cause need some money but someone has offered money my way and his 4 door r34. It looks fairly neat with only the basic mods and it's making 200rwkw's on 10 psi


What's your thought on a move like that? Will I get bored?

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Old 28-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #2
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Depends, R34 4-doors are fugly...one upside is a better chassis...
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Old 28-09-2012, 09:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: thinking of swapping my ba turbo for a r34 4 door gt-t?

I have r33

good things about skylines(mainly 2 doors):

1300kg

electronics,ecu and suspension/drive line better than todays cars.


Insane community numbers and second hand parts cheap.

Easy to make 220-250 rwkw with $5000.

A true sports car and chassis

R34 are heavier and have more ecu issues than previous skylines.

faster than xr6 turbo and better in bends


Cons:

They are getting cheaper and cheaper and you can lose alot of money.

Interior is a little plain.

Can feel like a toy car.


My view ,keep car but buy a older skyline for a race/fun car.

4 door skyline wont hold any worth.

watch for rust on fully imported cars.

Im on skyline forums.
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Old 28-09-2012, 09:31 PM   #4
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Default Re: thinking of swapping my ba turbo for a r34 4 door gt-t?

how is the ecu better. AFAIK theyre non programmable except with a nistune daughter board (which is ****) you have to run a piggyback to make them any good or a full ecu swap for the best setup.

A ford ecu is much better In my opinion.


Note i may not be right but this was my understanding from looking at them years ago
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Old 28-09-2012, 11:55 PM   #5
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Default Re: thinking of swapping my ba turbo for a r34 4 door gt-t?

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faster than xr6 turbo
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Old 29-09-2012, 12:59 AM   #6
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I thought the chassis were rubbish until you get into the GT-R, theres a review on youtube comparing an XR6T and Skyline R34
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Old 29-09-2012, 01:48 AM   #7
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Default Re: thinking of swapping my ba turbo for a r34 4 door gt-t?

A friend of mine owns a Skyline. He describes a love affair with it like Fatal Attraction.

Basically, they are money pits. You will be compelled to keep throwing money at them to make them better and better. You will do just that, but that money will get written off.

My mate bought a 4 door R32 GTS-t type M, for about 20 grand some years ago. Has thrown about that much into it again, fitting an R34 engine that's been worked. He has insane horsepower. But the gearbox let go many months ago... some gears don't work, one of them being reverse. Was going to sell it, but having driven in it when moving house he decided that was completely out of the question. So now more money must be thrown at it.

So... the way I see it. No one actually owns Skylines, Skylines own people. Your choice.
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Old 29-09-2012, 08:28 AM   #8
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I was a hard core jap lover once upon a time. Yeah they're fun to drive but I got sick of the stigma attached to them. I looked at the types of people that own them and decided I didn't want to be associated with that group of people anymore. It's mainly Skyline/Silvia owners.

Some may argue that driving a ford or holden makes you a 'bogan' but I see them as more a 'mature persons' car (though I'm only 25) to me, an FPV or HSV has that staunch presence that a "driff spek" Nissan lacks. In other words, they're a man's car.

Skylines and Silvias are for people who want to flutter about on sunny weekends at the beach scoping out school girls and honing their 'skills' in empty industrial areas. If you must have a Skyline, at least save for a GTR.

EDIT: And don't let anyone tell you they're cheaper on fuel than a 4l ford. RB's are terrible gas guzzlers. RWD turbo Skylines aren't much chop in a straight line either unless they're heavily modded and you're into roll-ons. It may prove a refreshing change for you after a BA though. Despite my feelings they are a fairly solid well-built car. Only problems I can think of are synchromesh in gearboxes seem to wear with age and crunch a bit, coil packs don't like too much heat (helped by removing plastic cam cover insert) and the standard turbos run a ceramic core that requires a turbo timer if you thrash the car a fair bit. Also, the rear wheels camber inward notably during launches.

Easy to drop a V8 into as well......

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Old 29-09-2012, 08:52 AM   #9
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In other words, they're a man's car.
Interesting philosophy.

So what sort of car do you believe is suitable for people who are NOT unsure of their masculinity or orientation and don't need props to project an image?
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Old 29-09-2012, 08:57 AM   #10
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The 34 is a great sedan but I cant help but wonder if the torque/hp will be missed.It is a lighter car but will still need nth of 250rwkw to impress you meaning ECU,Computer,Fuel and other possible small upgrades....can get rather expensive and very easy to over capatalise.

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Old 29-09-2012, 08:58 AM   #11
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Unless it was a 32 GTR ive never own one. (Id have a 35 to but the price is well out of my range)
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Old 29-09-2012, 08:58 AM   #12
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Don't do it.
You will get plenty of attention from police.
Which can get annoying andand are driving the price of grey imports down as the owners want to get rid off them.
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Old 29-09-2012, 09:01 AM   #13
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If you want to buy a skyline. Make sure you have enough in savings to buy another one.
They can be made to go very very well for very cheaply. But they can also get quite expensive.
Parts are everywhere, parts are cheap. Reasonably realiable provided your keep ontop of them. NOT as reliable as your falcon. But for a 15-20yr old car they are pretty bloody good.
You wont get bored, but you will miss the falcon. The rice rocket is a fun toy car. Little spent will see you in a falcon killer if you can drive..

Cops will love you, love to hate you. Not so much in a 34, keep it clean, neat and tidy and you will be left alone. Dont expect too much help from Skyline forums SAU. They have their 'little gang' and are a mentally retarded bunch of *********. They have alot of knowledge and will hold it over you.

I'd probably do it. They are a good car.

I own one lol. Been off the road for 10 months LOL.
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Old 29-09-2012, 09:20 AM   #14
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Interesting philosophy.

So what sort of car do you believe is suitable for people who are NOT unsure of their masculinity or orientation and don't need props to project an image?
I'd imagine something sensible like a nice Accord euro or a Hyundai i40 sedan which I also like. My next car could be a mk6 Golf or even a Veloster. The only thing stopping me is the image they project. I lose sleep at night thinking of all the SS owners that will taunt and abuse me for driving such a girly car so the F6 will have to stay for now I'm afraid as I have no other means of compensation for my orientation or masculinity.

To the OP: stick with your original plan and sell for cash. The fact He wants to swap, for a Falcon of all things AND it has light mods...Smells like trouble pie.

One does not simply own a lightly modded Skyline and not drop the clutch at every roundabout in a frenzy of tyre smoke, opposite lock and limiter bouncing.
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One does not simply own a lightly modded Skyline and not drop the clutch at every roundabout in a frenzy of tyre smoke, opposite lock and limiter bouncing.

What?

lol stupidest thing..
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Thanks for you replies. So I've gained a little bit more info on the car so I'll share and see what you guys think

As you know it's a r34 gt-t with an rb 25 neo which I believe has a ball bearing turbo which is a bit safer?

Mods are: fmic turbo back exhaust, valve spring's, kaz diff (what's that?), coilovers, strut braces, hks turbo timer, excedy hd clutch

It's currently running 200rwkw on a 10psi tune done by status automotive in melbs and powertune in Sydney
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Old 29-09-2012, 09:34 AM   #17
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I thought the reason you buy a car is because its for you? lol. Must have missed that memo.
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Thanks for you replies. So I've gained a little bit more info on the car so I'll share and see what you guys think

As you know it's a r34 gt-t with an rb 25 neo which I believe has a ball bearing turbo which is a bit safer?

Mods are: fmic turbo back exhaust, valve spring's, kaz diff (what's that?), coilovers, strut braces, hks turbo timer

It's currently running 200rwkw on a 10psi tune done by status automotive in melbs and power and power tune in Sydney

RB25 neo are the pick of the bunch. Sounds like its got the right mods for a nice all round package. Status and Powertune are both reputable RB tuners.
KAAZ diff is a locker, but at low speeds/low load it will free wheel so you dont get the inside wheel skipping. But hit the go button and it will lock up and drive both back wheels.
The turbos are still a little bit left to be desired in stock form.
Wont be as quick or as comfortable as the falcon, but it will be nice and theres not much more to mod wise to get the same spec performance as you currently have.
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I thought the reason you buy a car is because its for you? lol. Must have missed that memo.

New gen thinking ....
Most buy cause their mates want them to
Dont get popularity votes becasue we drive what we want

Theres a reason someone would unload a skyline and some coin for a turbo falcon, think about it
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RB25 neo are the pick of the bunch. Sounds like its got the right mods for a nice all round package. Status and Powertune are both reputable RB tuners.
KAAZ diff is a locker, but at low speeds/low load it will free wheel so you dont get the inside wheel skipping. But hit the go button and it will lock up and drive both back wheels.
The turbos are still a little bit left to be desired in stock form.
Wont be as quick or as comfortable as the falcon, but it will be nice and theres not much more to mod wise to get the same spec performance as you currently have.
Thanks for the info, another reason in considering going te a skyline is that I've wanted for a long time to do drift courses and stuff so this style of diff would be a good advantage for drifting?

There is another option for another car. A bloke down the road is selling a series 7 rx7 completely stock and I've always liked the idea of a rx7 with an ls1
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The reason would be 'need/want a change'.
Same reason everyone else trades/swaps/sells their cars. They just get over them and want something else.
Your a fool if you buy a car to impress your mates.

For those of you that do? LOL---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKjAVcvgpaw
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Thanks for the info, another reason in considering going te a skyline is that I've wanted for a long time to do drift courses and stuff so this style of diff would be a good advantage for drifting?

There is another option for another car. A bloke down the road is selling a series 7 rx7 completely stock and I've always liked the idea of a rx7 with an ls1
Yeah, dont be fooled, sliding a skyline is a little harder than people think. Still quite do-able though, just not as easy as your typical drift car like 180s and things. The diff will be perfect for that kind of thing, will step ALL the time and will be very predictable and controllable, pig in the wet though.
The car as it sits now, with coilovers, strut braces, kaaz, and 200rwkw will be close to the perfect trade off for a daily/drifter/fun car.
Will need a bit more balls though. Fuel pump, more boost will see you over 250-270rwkw which is what you want.

RX7 are nice start to finish conversion will set you back roughly 13k from previous experiences.
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Being new to the skylines an stuff and used to the tuneability of the falcon, correct me if I'm wrong to tune it better it will need a replacement computer?
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Thanks for the info, another reason in considering going te a skyline is that I've wanted for a long time to do drift courses and stuff so this style of diff would be a good advantage for drifting?

There is another option for another car. A bloke down the road is selling a series 7 rx7 completely stock and I've always liked the idea of a rx7 with an ls1
IMO if you want to do drifting, buy a unregistered car and use that. I would not use your main car as the drifter, because you will breakdown and hit walls and spin off the track.
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Definately.
If its been tuned already, I'd find out what its been tuned with.

I'd strongly recommend going with a Haltech plug in.(Its what I use on my 500rwkw R33) But Link/Vipec are right up there to.
Power FC, Nistune and all that are dated, still work but dont have the tuneablility of the others.
But choose a tuner, go with what they recommend.
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You would get bored after 5 minutes driving it . 200 rwkw in a 34 ( auto or manual ? ) , might run mid to high 13's . Not to mention being picked on by the cops , and every dick at the lights racing you ...

Maybe drive the skyline and see if its worth it . Your the one who has to drive it not us lol
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+1 for don't do it.

You will be kicking yourself almost instantly.
Sounds like your just after a 'change'. Maybe do something drastic to your XR, like different wheels or different colour?
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Way too much negative attention from ******* on the road wanting to race and police having a bad day, I'd keep the car you have now but put more money into it if you want change
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