Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 16-12-2010, 11:42 PM   #1
EF
Formerly gt.4.me
 
EF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 296
Lightbulb why chev motors ?

i still dont fully get why hotrod owners put small block chevs in ford bodies ?
please explain :L

EF is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-12-2010, 11:52 PM   #2
FPV GTHO
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,331
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Sharing his knowledge of performance exhaust setups for the NA 6 cyc Barra Falcon from BA to FG. 
Default

Theres a massive aftermarket following for them, so theyre easy to get big power out of.

Alot of hot rods are running either fibreglass bodies, custom suspension and diffs and gearboxes from whever so i guess some people also feel what difference does the engine make.
FPV GTHO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-12-2010, 11:55 PM   #3
EF
Formerly gt.4.me
 
EF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 296
Default

yer i guess so. i am just weird fibreglass body or not if its a ford shape it gunnar have a ford motor but that just me i am just like that
EF is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-12-2010, 11:57 PM   #4
kezzer
Regular Member
 
kezzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 489
Default

pretty cheap to get parts for also, at the end of the day nothing is written in stone. I'd put an Ls7 or Ls9 in my FG if I won tattslotto haha
__________________
FG XR6: pacemaker sterline coated headers, Xr8 snorkel + modified CAI, 100cpsi ballistic cat, 20" rims, lower with shocks, custom catback exhaust, custom spacers, tune soon to come, 1/4mile soon to come.
kezzer is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 16-12-2010, 11:59 PM   #5
XB GS 351 Coupe
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Mid North Coast
Posts: 6,443
Default

Physically smaller in size, so fits easy, cheaper horsepower for horsepower, easier to get performance parts for, no contest really..
__________________
The Daily Driver : '98 EL Falcon, 5 Speed , 3.45 lsd

The Week End Bruiser : FPV BF GT 40th Anniversary, 6 Speed Manual, 6/4 Brembo and lots of Herrod goodies

Project 1 : '75 XB GS 351 Ute, Toploader, 9" with 3.5's

Project 2 : '74 XB GS Big Block Coupe, Toploader, 9" with 4.11's

In Storage : '74 XB GS 351 Fairmont Sedan



XB Falcon Owners Group



Mike's Man Cave


XB GS 351 Coupe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 12:49 AM   #6
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

as above, small dimensions ,decent power , and most of all very cheap, a mate bought a brand new chev 6.2 for his supra, complete with the works , coil paks an all for 5 k............ for comparison from ford an AU vct 4.0 long motor = near enough to $7000
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 01:23 AM   #7
barnz_xr8
Turbo 358W
 
barnz_xr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: bosnia(boronia)
Posts: 618
Default

there really simple to get between 300-400 horse's out of, but after that there just another small block that requiers heaps of coin to get realy swinging.
barnz_xr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 07:50 AM   #8
|||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 575
Default

its to balance out all the commodores with chev badges
||| is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #9
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

It's because they don't like doing oil changes. With an LS whatever V8, the motor has usually burnt or leaked all the engine oil after 300 kilometers, so it's just a matter of topping it up.
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #10
4Vman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
4Vman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,654
Default

Cheap, compact, plentiful aftermarket support and easy to modify...



__________________
335 S/C GT: The new KING of Australian made performance cars..
4Vman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:05 AM   #11
Nikked
Oo\===/oO
 
Nikked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tamworth
Posts: 11,348
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Long time member, loves Fords, sensible contributor and does some good and interesting posts. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Cheap, compact, plentiful aftermarket support and easy to modify...

This right here.
__________________





Check out my Photo-chop page

T...I...C...K...F...O...R...D
\≡≡T≡≡/
Nikked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:08 AM   #12
DBourne
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
DBourne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sydney.nsw.au
Posts: 6,119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Cheap, compact, plentiful aftermarket support and easy to modify...
Ding, Ding... and a sexy note to them too
__________________
flickr
DBourne is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:19 AM   #13
buggerlugs
If it ain't broke........
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 18,784
Default

I have often wondered this to. Now I know..............
__________________
Visitors welcome
Relatives by appointment only
buggerlugs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:22 AM   #14
Zedjay
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Zedjay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NSW Central Coast
Posts: 1,266
Default

the toyota/lexus v8 is a popular choice for hot rodders these day's too!!
Zedjay is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:23 AM   #15
wrongwaynorris
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wrongwaynorris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,868
Default

Maybe they like the sound of piston slap too .

http://www.pistonslap.com/
wrongwaynorris is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:30 AM   #16
4Vman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
4Vman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,654
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrongwaynorris
Maybe they like the sound of piston slap too .

http://www.pistonslap.com/
We're talking 70's 350 chev's, not LS1/Gen 3...



__________________
335 S/C GT: The new KING of Australian made performance cars..
4Vman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:32 AM   #17
pottery beige
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 18,988
Default

Rodders are the ultimate resourceful car modders... column out of this, brakes off of that, window regs that work, seats etc.... car building awesomeness whatever it takes......
pottery beige is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:32 AM   #18
protd
TUFF FORDS
 
protd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: cairns
Posts: 3,497
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtBourne
Ding, Ding... and a sexy note to them too

personally i think small block chevs sound like ****..
protd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-12-2010, 08:39 AM   #19
ZA-289
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ZA-289's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,343
Default

As said, Chevs fit alot easier than Windsors/Clevos.

Thats all there is to it.
ZA-289 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:52 AM   #20
Iggypoppin'
Chasing a FORD project!
 
Iggypoppin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: adelaide
Posts: 5,114
Default

In true ford hotrod style, you can't beat a flathead V8 for sound and cruisyness. My neighbour has a '32 ford roadster and a '51 4 door, both have hot flatheads and they sound super tough. As he said though, they are harder to get hp out of unlike a chev, and they are becoming harder to find.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by HSE2
Today we might get beaten at some of our own game. Tomorrow we reinvent it.
Game. Reinvented.

1996 BMW 740iL V8. TV, phone, leather, sunroof, satnav, all as standard. Now with 19" TSW Brooklands, 2 1/2" stainless steel exhaust, plus more coming soon.
Iggypoppin' is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:54 AM   #21
aquahead2001
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aquahead2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,301
Default

Originally it was because the '55 Chev small block was just so much more readily available than other motors to hop up a once side valve powered Ford. And when Ford did finally bring out an engine that could compete, the Ford small block, 260/289/302, it had it's sump bump and oil pump at the front and that made it harder to slip straight in to a rigid axle 1930's/40's Ford, where the Chev had the rear mounted sump pump and oil pump.

Also Chev were selling nearly double the number's Ford were for a few years in the 1950's too.

If you look at good old USA V8 motor history, from 1955 until the 1990's Chev has 3 V8 motor series, the small block, the original big block series (Porcupine or W Head) and then the mighty "Rat" big block. Ford on the other hand had Y-Block, FE series, Small Block, Windsor, 335 series Cleavland, and 385 series bigblock. And don't for get there was also a big block Lincoln Edsel Mercury series in there somewhere in the late 1950's early 60's too.
__________________
2012 PX Chilli Orange Wildtrak, 2006 SY Territory TS AWD, 1974 HQ Ute & 1964 Fairlane 500
aquahead2001 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 08:58 AM   #22
Iggypoppin'
Chasing a FORD project!
 
Iggypoppin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: adelaide
Posts: 5,114
Default

Another option hotrodders have is oldsmobile engines, I am unsure of spec but they are apparently a bit of fun once some tinkering has been done.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by HSE2
Today we might get beaten at some of our own game. Tomorrow we reinvent it.
Game. Reinvented.

1996 BMW 740iL V8. TV, phone, leather, sunroof, satnav, all as standard. Now with 19" TSW Brooklands, 2 1/2" stainless steel exhaust, plus more coming soon.
Iggypoppin' is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 09:51 AM   #23
Kingsley
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,285
Default

And when they want serious power, they throw in a Hemi!!!!
I must admit I'll walk past a Ford rod that has a Chev in it purely because it's like they're following a set criteria of how to build a rod or becoming one of the flock.
Even though they're a bit rarer, I love the look of the side valve Ford.
Kingsley is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 09:58 AM   #24
chevypower
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
chevypower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,479
Default

As decent as they are, you just don't put a GM engine in a Ford or vice versa. It's just wrong!!!!!! But I guess the Chevy guys put Ford rear axles in their cars and nobody complains.
chevypower is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 10:17 AM   #25
burnz
VFII SS UTE
 
burnz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 6,353
Default

nothing wrong with a 5.7L big block wedge in a rod..they look the goods.
__________________
I don't often hear the sound of a screaming LSX.
But when I do, So do the neighbours..
GO SOUTHS
burnz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 10:21 AM   #26
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ltd
It's because they don't like doing oil changes. With an LS whatever V8, the motor has usually burnt or leaked all the engine oil after 300 kilometers, so it's just a matter of topping it up.
your funny!!
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 11:31 AM   #27
ebxr8240
Performance moderator
 
ebxr8240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical advice. 
Default

An example is my brother in law.. We are both Ford nuts...
He's building an A.C Cobra in Vic..
He wanted to fit a Ford V8 but the 5.6 is way too big..
A 5.0 is too old as it needs to be 05 and newer due to EPA..
The 4.6 Cobra is too expensive especially for a second hand motor...
Being a panel beater it was easy for him to acquire an SS V8 assembly...
6.0ltr too....
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!...
BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN.
Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!
Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw..
Daily driver GTE FG..
Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4
ebxr8240 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 12:07 PM   #28
aussie muscle
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aussie muscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,312
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ltd
It's because they don't like doing oil changes. With an LS whatever V8, the motor has usually burnt or leaked all the engine oil after 300 kilometers, so it's just a matter of topping it up.
That sounds more like a chrysler 6 in every valiant i've ever owned
__________________
My ride: 2007 Falcon Ute BF XR8 Orange, MTO.
aussie muscle is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 01:21 PM   #29
aussie muscle
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aussie muscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,312
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gt.4.me
i still dont fully get why hotrod owners put small block chevs in ford bodies ?
please explain :L
Because ford don't make hotrods. and they haven't made cars that look like them for 80 years, and they don't look anything like they did back then, anyway.
__________________
My ride: 2007 Falcon Ute BF XR8 Orange, MTO.
aussie muscle is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2010, 01:24 PM   #30
wicksy
Just a bogan VF SS driver
 
wicksy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blackwater, QLD
Posts: 719
Default

i know someone with a a 32 ford coupe with a LS1 it goes hard
__________________
Just your typical Holden Driver
wicksy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL