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Old 27-08-2012, 11:25 PM   #1
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Ok if you had a car and you could spend 20k on engine alone what would you put in it? Say if the car was a xb hardtop?

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Old 27-08-2012, 11:55 PM   #2
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Angry dirty Clevo
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Old 27-08-2012, 11:58 PM   #3
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Angry dirty Clevo
Or maybe a big block, but it would be Clevo all the way for me.
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Old 28-08-2012, 08:00 AM   #4
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Not sure what, but i know who is EASILY the best Ford spannerman for these *older* V8's in the land, and perhaps the world
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Old 28-08-2012, 08:01 AM   #5
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Is he in brisbane? Its not me is it? :p
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Old 28-08-2012, 08:10 AM   #6
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Is he in brisbane? Its not me is it? :p
No, he is in Melbourne, use to be head of Ford AUS Motorsports, trained on the F1 RepcoBrabham, had a Phase4 as a company car, engineered lots road registered daily drive 200MPH turbocharged V8 Ford's

Full of story and FoA history, easily the best in his field.

If i was doing a high budget Ford V8, he would be the one!

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Old 28-08-2012, 10:29 AM   #7
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Big block. A460 or eliminator block, 632cu (4.75 crank) profiler heads, big single carb, solid roller with around 840 lift = 1100 plus hp N/A. Plus single stage nos (300 shot). Oh and some big tyres

Heres something like that:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161095

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Old 28-08-2012, 03:01 PM   #8
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Big block. A460 or eliminator block, 632cu (4.75 crank) profiler heads, big single carb, solid roller with around 840 lift = 1100 plus hp N/A. Plus single stage nos (300 shot). Oh and some big tyres

Heres something like that:
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161095
Holy ****! That is a motor and a half!, may be a bit of overkill for me though. Onle again holy ****!

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No, he is in Melbourne, use to be head of Ford AUS Motorsports, trained on the F1 RepcoBrabham, had a Phase4 as a company car, engineered lots road registered daily drive 200MPH turbocharged V8 Ford's

Full of story and FoA history, easily the best in his field.

If i was doing a high budget Ford V8, he would be the one!
Ok I give up
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:34 PM   #9
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Ok I give up
Here is the link if your interested:

http://www.classiccargurus.com.au/Duvall_Motorsport

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Old 28-08-2012, 03:38 PM   #10
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In a XB?

1)Modular with a turbo or 2.
2)Dirty angry Clevo
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:41 PM   #11
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #12
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335 S/C.
What else would you want?
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:49 PM   #13
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Ok if you had a car and you could spend 20k on engine alone what would you put in it? Say if the car was a xb hardtop?
I'd get one of those Wiseco modded 5.8/351 Coyote short blocks, set it up for a nasty n/a application with GT (Supercar) heads and FR500 intake
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:53 PM   #14
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335 S/C.
What else would you want?
I want it so badly it makes me tear up to think it won't fit between the strut towers, but I would tear up more if I had to cut them!

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In a XB?

1)Modular with a turbo or 2.
2)Dirty angry Clevo
You and me think alike!

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Old boss/ Clevor style? Or new mod boss? Do I sound stupid yet?
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:59 PM   #15
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In an XB it's hard to go past a clevo. Have a look at the pavtek website. $13k buys you 600hp, so $20k just on the engine might get you into there 728HP Dart block combo.
http://www.pavtek.com.au/index.php?o...nes&Itemid=143
Your budget for your engine is huge, but it's not the only thing you need to worry about. Gearbox, tailsharft and diff could soak up to $10k to handle the power, plus fuel system, ignition system and brakes.
It snow balls and adds up realy quickly.
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Old 28-08-2012, 04:10 PM   #16
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Haha yeah if I look at that clevor one more time it will be for the 100th time! Its sooooo pretty! Thats one of the lead contenders if I were to get a crate! Yeah the rest of the car is basically planned already that was the easy part! just not so much the engine/gearbox combo ie if a modular the STD auto seems to be the pick, if a clevo the tremec looks the goods cause I don't like autos. Yeah I know they're faster at the track but this is a 90% street car.
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Old 28-08-2012, 04:33 PM   #17
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Come on! If you want to take on turbo this supercharge that go Big block. Example: XA 600cu, 9.4:1 comp with a tad over 900hp on pump gas im led to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKs3q...ure=plpp_video

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Old 28-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #18
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Yeah I've seen that about 100 times too, that's 100 pairs of pants ruined! this is why I can't make up my mind, they are all so good! Check this out http://awesomeengines.biz/612ci-bbf-maxx-pro-stree/
It's so tempting!
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Old 28-08-2012, 04:55 PM   #19
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Aftermarket block and go from there..
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Old 28-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #20
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Very nice looking engine. Big block all the way in your coupe. Heres one for $11k. Does 5.96 on the eighth in a 3417lbs car. Imagine that with a shot of gas.
But it is safer buying in australia, but this part of your project is the best! Working out what you want. But dont get a crate engine, get your motor custom built local. But its fun looking at whats around thats for sure. Good luck mate will be watching what you do.

http://www.429-460.com/t14366-557-kaase-engine
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:00 PM   #21
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Fun? My hairs falling out haha! Wouldn't mind building my own 545 or something... Hmmm now there's an idea!
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:09 PM   #22
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Well here's a photo anyway sorry if it is crappy I don't have many small ones!
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:11 PM   #23
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1 - if its an original K copde car, a cranky Clevo is the go.

2. - If not a Big cube 500+ big block crate motor. 1 to 1.5 hp per cube, easy cruising lots of fun
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:12 PM   #24
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For $20,000 I would get:

- New Coyote Aluminator crate motor ready for supercharging...$7,500
- Billet 8/71 TBS supercharger with teflon strips + belt, blower gaurd etc.. Under $5,000
- Enderle Big n Ugly 5 9/16th injector hat... $2,500
- Make my own custom alluminium high rise blower manifold... $1000 if that
- Custom parts, fuel system and tune would take up the rest of the money.
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Toyota 1UZFE 4L V8 with positive displacement supercharger
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For $20,000 I would get:

- New Coyote Aluminator crate motor ready for supercharging...$7,500
- Billet 8/71 TBS supercharger with teflon strips + belt, blower gaurd etc.. Under $5,000
- Enderle Big n Ugly 5 9/16th injector hat... $2,500
- Make my own custom alluminium high rise blower manifold... $1000 if that
- Custom parts, fuel system and tune would take up the rest of the money.
I reckon closer to $30,000 + with GST and shipping, computer,ecu
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Well here's a photo anyway sorry if it is crappy I don't have many small ones!
Am sure i seen this car at munchies
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #28
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well now that i suddenly theoretically have disposable spondooly, deneero,moola,cabbage,folding stuff......MONEY !!!...... i`d probably get a motor out of one of these................................
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Old 28-08-2012, 05:20 PM   #29
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No doubt. I like the honey chicken.
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Haha yeah if I look at that clevor one more time it will be for the 100th time! Its sooooo pretty! Thats one of the lead contenders if I were to get a crate! Yeah the rest of the car is basically planned already that was the easy part! just not so much the engine/gearbox combo ie if a modular the STD auto seems to be the pick, if a clevo the tremec looks the goods cause I don't like autos. Yeah I know they're faster at the track but this is a 90% street car.
I have a 500hp clevo that was a manual with a ceramic clutch and found it to be real pig to drive as a street car, it didn't like to lump around 2000-2500rpm. When replaced with a built c4 with full manual and 4500 stall, it transformed it into somthing you wanted to drive.
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