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22-05-2009, 09:16 PM | #1 | ||
Teh Baest
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If u had a choice:
a) R32 GTR b) BF II XR6T c) 15k on your AU what would you choose and why? If option (c) what would you do to your AU? I should be in this position at the end of the year, but my mind changes every freeeeeekin day, has been doing so for the last 12 months... ATM i am thinking CMS 4.6L + Supercharger What would i need to strengthen up the auto to handle the 300+rwkw? How much? I want (a) as i have loved the R32 ever since before Skaifey and Richards pwned the Mountain. Been my dreamcar for nearly 20 years. I want (b) cuz they are so easy to get 300+rwkw I want (c) cuz i wanna be different BLAH! I know "dreamer" will prolly get thrown around a bit in the thread But im serious. Joe @ CMS knows im serious, ive told him some of my plans He's willing to accomodate By the end of the year I will have been saving for nearly 18 months. If all goes well, come September will have my house, so I dont need to save for anything else If i choose (c) before anything i wanna get the AU 2+ brakes... AU 1 brakes are ****ing me off...
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22-05-2009, 09:45 PM | #2 | ||
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15 k on my au for sure il just clean every little bit up make her run like gold
girlfriend has a r33 nice car powerful good handeling but jump back in the au and theres just something there beautie lol
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22-05-2009, 10:12 PM | #3 | ||
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$15k on the au hands down. No offence to you or your past 20yr fantasy lol but the skyline has had it's time. IMO Now they just look old and ugly lol and too many tossers drive em. Plus im blue blood till the end.
So what id do would do is be thinking an ba/bf xr6t engine conversion. or a full rebuild on your au with all the good bits and either put a Garrett GT40 on it. front mount intercooler, injectors etc. Or a either supercharger kit? I heard JMM were doing a stroker kit either 4.6 or 4.8L Id look at the stroker kit and supercharger kit in the Au personally. As it'd kick *** and be something different and unique. ;) |
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22-05-2009, 10:36 PM | #4 | ||
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Definately 15k on my AU.
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22-05-2009, 10:46 PM | #5 | ||
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15k on my AU would be awesome, but i wouldn't know where to start! Realistically however, i'm not sure if i would be bothered with the time involved doing up the AU. Honestly, i'd probably go for the BF xr6T... great performance that's hard to match considering what they're going for now... You should make this thread a poll.
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22-05-2009, 11:13 PM | #6 | ||
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On the AU!!!! Get a engine rebuild and super-charge it!!! You should have some change left from 15 grand, strengthen the auto and diff if you can. With the engine rebuild and supercharge with the best part of 15g's you should be able to make a reliable street driven set up.
If you buy a either of the cars A or B you have to start from scratch with mods etc and that mean over 15grand for the car and then another 15grand for mods, its another way to look at it.
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22-05-2009, 11:35 PM | #7 | |||
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Out of those options I'd go the XR6T, the AU will only end up causing heartache.
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22-05-2009, 11:40 PM | #8 | ||
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another vote for xr6t, easy and reliable power if you dont push them to the limits. and at 300rwkw it will be a well mannered car. a 300rwkw stroker supercharged AU 6 will more than likely be a pig to drive in traffic.
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22-05-2009, 11:56 PM | #9 | ||
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As much as i love my Fords and my AUs i would choose the R32 GTR if a clean, reliable, good condition one became available. I just think that they are beautiful cars and the RB26 motors is one of my favourite motors. There is plenty of hp to be had with little money and you cant complain with standard 13 second quarter miles anyway. They are even better when done up properly. Back in the day Jeremey Clarkson rated it as one of the best cars he had driven.
Which ever choice you go a, b or c, you will have an awesome car.
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22-05-2009, 11:58 PM | #10 | ||
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man every man and his dog has got a fast skyline and just about the same with the xr6t go the au, v8 preferably twin turbo dart block stroker shouldn't be to far off $12000 and a bit different imo.
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23-05-2009, 12:00 AM | #11 | ||
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Why would you spend $15K on an AU? It's worth no more than $3K now. You pump $15K in to it, plus time and headaches for a car that's maybe worth $4K in the end realistically if you wanted to sell it in a year's time. Buy a car that's already done.
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23-05-2009, 12:53 AM | #12 | ||
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In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, please dont flame me for it, any money pumped into a car is a waste of money if your looking at it from a resale perspective. But you alsready have the car, you just need to take it to the next level.
With this in mind, and if your like me and want to have something unique, you are attached to your car and will be prepared to keep your car in the family for a generation for sentimental reasons, then the AU while not worth squat now is the option to keep with, for the following reasons: You know that car and its potential. The car is already yours and you know its history. You know how to handle it. You know what mods you can and cant do to it. Parts are cheap to a certain extent. and it will be unique! BUT I wouldnt bother with the stroker if I were in your position. Dont get me wrong, Im not against CMS or the kits they will be selling. But there is always going to be the 'unknown' factor. Even though the possibilities for performance are there, you will be basically like a guinea pig for the first batch of stroker kits. Parts will be somewhat expensive until the popularity takes off. I reckon You'll get heart ache mucking around with this kit to get it to work well with an s/c IMO. What I'd do is Id put the funds into a tough reliable 4.0L with forced induction package. Rebuild the 4L to handle about 400fwkw. Spend some dough building the bottom end up tough and add a snort kit OR look at a xr6t engine/loom transplant. Rebuild the trans, toughen the diff, and add excellent suspension. If funds permit, do paint touch ups or tasteful body mods. I reckon doing this and doing it right, you'll not only have your boosted dreams in a car you know and love, but you'll have a unique, fun car that shouldnt attract the wrong attention, but will give you great reliable driving on a daily basis. You'll also be the envy of most of us here. :P PS. There will be some people here that will disagree with some of the things I have been saying, but remember, this is just my opinion.
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23-05-2009, 03:04 AM | #13 | ||
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Keep the AU- put 10g back on the house payments, spend 5 cleaning her up and in a few years buy a nicer car (any of your options)- for much less!
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23-05-2009, 07:00 AM | #14 | ||
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Hmmm, if your going to spend around 20-30k on a car (R32 GTR and XR6t), why not just get a T3?
If you dont want to get rid of your car, and want to spend 15 k on it, why not do something completely different, and put an RB25 or RB26, 2JZ, or even the BARRA turbo engine and driveline. Im sure they could all be done for around the 15k mark. You can pick up an XR6t wreck pretty cheap at the auctions (<$10 000) and that leaves $5 000 to pay a workshop and Ford to put it in and wire it up, shouldnt even cost that much really. Its a very hard choice Im sure, as the XR6t is wicked, and cheappily modified can net great results and is quite new if you will. The R32 is one of my favourite cars, and are just amazing all over, the technology in them is amazing, and also, a 12second car stock for around 20k is awesome. Just my thoughts. Your in a dilly of a pickle.
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23-05-2009, 08:18 AM | #15 | |||
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Or get that V8 that every young red-hot blooded Ford fan has always wanted. All the best with it. GK
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23-05-2009, 08:51 AM | #16 | ||
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Go for a) Not many on AFF have a), every man and his dog on here has b) or c).
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23-05-2009, 09:18 AM | #17 | |||
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Meh we all know when you get this modding bug there is no return or recovery, practicallity goes out the window , but who cares its your car your cash, You just have to do what YOU want be cause no matter which way you go there will be Knockers and baggers and them who love it :the_finge Trust me after 40 years of playing and thousands of $$$$$$$ there is no cure .. Me I luv the AU so any thing a bit left of center is how I would go ,something a bit differant. only advice would be dont do it on the cheap as it will end in heartache, thats not to say you have to have the best of evreything. but good quaility parts will be cheaper in the long run .. :
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23-05-2009, 09:21 AM | #18 | ||
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A mate of mine has a 500HP turbo six out of an EL, mated to a C4 auto. I think he's got it for sale (car's sold, engine is not). He's a mechanic and he's very good. Lemme know if you're interested in that.
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23-05-2009, 09:40 AM | #19 | |||
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Seriously, Option 1 does nothing for me at all. However I'm not you, and if it were me with a love for something like that, I would most likely do it. Option 2 does even less for me than option 1. B series Falcons leave me very cold. Again though, I'm not you. Option 3 is ok, however 15k is a lot to spend on a poverty pack AU1. I would not consider this option because because it is a povo pack AU1. If I were to work on a AU, I would start with a better base such as any XR 2/3 (6 or 8, depending on what floats ya boat). I also would not consider an auto in whatever vehicle you look at. Manuals are just better. Lastly, in all seriousness, I actually do think a T3 is a very good alternative. You clearly like AU's, otherwise you wouldn't have an option 3, or own what you have for as long as you've had it. They go like the clappers in standard trim. They have plenty of room to increase many aspects of performance. They will hold there value quite well (much better than option 2/3). They are different. Anyway, just my ramblings. BTW, did I mention get a manual. :Up_to_som
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23-05-2009, 09:53 AM | #20 | ||
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(a) is too old and probably ready to fall apart from 20 years of abuse
(b) would be my pick. nice and new, easy to get more power, or just drive as is (c) you would never go close to recovering the cash, even if you don't intend to recover it $15k is a lot to spend on a 10 year old car that will always be an ugly au falcon and if you sell it people will still want to pay less that $10k for the car. just my 2c |
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23-05-2009, 10:39 AM | #21 | ||
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I'd love an R32 GTR, but having a few mates that have/have had them I know that at their age now, they can be at times an expensive daily driver. Still they represent bargain performance motoring, and who cares who drives what (in reference to everyone saying tools drive them these days) - just do whatever floats your boat.
XR6T wins hands down IMO if bulk power is what you want. This is the option I'd choose. 15k modding an AU1 povvy - for me no. Once again though, you should do what makes you happy! |
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23-05-2009, 11:28 AM | #22 | ||
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I think mont 5.0's got the right idea? Spend 5k on the car put 10k on the house... and in a few years get a ba xr6 turbo for around 10k?
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23-05-2009, 12:03 PM | #23 | ||
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If it was my AU in the scenario?
15k would buy me a aftermarket block and a decent gearbox... Decision made.....
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23-05-2009, 12:30 PM | #24 | |||
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23-05-2009, 01:08 PM | #25 | ||
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Just over a year ago I started looking at buying another car, test drove an xr6t but compared to the au the steering just felt too heavy. I know after awhile I'd get used to it but still in the end decided to poor my cash into the AU, full 3" system, supercharger, new lsd and diff gears and all the other odds and ends, end result is a car thats an absolute ball to drive. Now I am living somewhere that doesn't have a carport or garage and I have a company car, been thinking about selling it as it just doesn't get driven enough, if I do go ahead with selling it I'd be suprised to get $7k for it, thats half of what I have spent on it in the last 12 months, a quater of what it has cost me over the last 2 years. No way in the world would I consider doing this again, there are plenty of other hobbies you can find that don't cost anywhere near as much.
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23-05-2009, 01:32 PM | #26 | ||
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Mate gotta be an Xr6t, if not a 220 with a couple grand on top would go hard. You could push 300rwkw no dramas in a Xr6t, plus ford are made better than that recycled Jap Crap! no offence. Reliable, safe, stylish, powerful..wot more could u ask for..
Good luck! GO with your instinct lol.
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23-05-2009, 01:36 PM | #27 | ||
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That or go middle of the road and get a BA XR6T. Six months back they were going for as low as $8000 and can easily be had for not much more than $10,000. With mine I spent about $1500 on exhaust modification, flash tuner with 10psi tune, and bigger FMIC. Was plenty quick even in that low state of tune.
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23-05-2009, 02:19 PM | #28 | |||
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23-05-2009, 02:27 PM | #29 | |||
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Hmmmm... Now that is interesting... I thought even the BA's were closer to 20. I must do a tad more research cuz if that is the case, it'd be a no brainer and i'd go that BA
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23-05-2009, 04:11 PM | #30 | ||
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i haven't seen a standard xr6 for under $12000 let alone a turbo, they must be a bit crap for $8000 to $10000. for that kinda money we'd all have one wouldn't we?
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