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17-04-2012, 05:52 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi All,
I recently purchased a set of Day Time Running Lights and im wondering what is the best place to power them from? I have a Sub and amp in the car and Neons aswell. The neons are power of the HU so im not sure where the best place to power from. Taking in note that i would prefer the day lights to be on a seperate switch to all Lights so it can come on when i want. e.g Day Lights on and Headlights and parkers off. I am driving a 2000 Ford Laser KN LXI Let me know on your thoughts. Cheers
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17-04-2012, 07:35 PM | #2 | ||
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A 240v supply attached by a very short lead to an outlet in your basement
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17-04-2012, 09:59 PM | #3 | ||
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DRLs should be wired into parkers, they usually have some electronic trickery that they sense voltage, so you wire them into parkers, but they won't turn on unless the alternator is charging the battery and parkers are on.
Or you could run a wire to a switch from the positive terminal on your battery, have the switch with its on position pin feeding to pin 86 on a relay, earth pin 85, pin 30 to battery positive (with a fuse) and pin 87 to the DRLs and that will allow you to switch them on separately instead of having them off parkers, but still will have to have the car running I'm fairly sure because of its electro-magic going on in there. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 17-04-2012 at 10:09 PM. |
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17-04-2012, 10:10 PM | #4 | ||
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18-04-2012, 12:08 PM | #5 | ||
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Anywhere except fitted to your car.
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18-04-2012, 12:11 PM | #6 | |||
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DRLs should come on as soon as you turn the ignition on and should dim / turn off when you put the headlights on. Theres no switch for them inside. They come with proper wiring diagrams usually you will have to power them and then run a wire to the headlight which will dim them when the headlight is switch on. As for people dissing DRL's you need to have a look as some road research carried out in the US and Europe.
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18-04-2012, 12:19 PM | #7 | ||
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LOL people hating them. They are very effective for obviously long trips etc.
I installed some in my AU on the bumper inserts under the number plate, and also replaced my parker bulbs with white LED's to match. Its wired so that they only work with the parkers, when I switch to normal driving lights they turn off, also when I have the highbeams on (naturally). I also like the idea of using these instead of normal driving lights when on longer trips because during the day your driving lights do nothing other than waste the bulb, they also are far more noticeable. I wanted to use the Phillips range but they looked to bulky on my car, so I made a little custom setup which is pretty basic but does the trick. Im not an aggressive driver but I have noticed people in the right lane move over quicker, and in VIC this is an issue as most of the time the left lane is quicker!
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18-04-2012, 12:23 PM | #8 | ||
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You can call them 'daytime driving lights', the Police in just about every State has legislation about the use of these types of lights, I suggest you refer to your State's rules about their use before you wire them in
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18-04-2012, 12:29 PM | #9 | |||
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I pass plenty of police, most recently over Easter from Melb to Canb and even when stopped at a bretho they didnt ask or say anything. Ive seen some new model seem to keep the DRL's on while the driving lights are on, so I guess they might be hooked up to a light sensor? Dont know.
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here is the Victorian Law
From the Road Safety (Vehicles) Regulations 2009 Quote:
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18-04-2012, 12:32 PM | #11 | ||
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Right so with a bit of common sense your fine. But the vast majority of DRL's do not adhere to 217 with regards to "fog", as they are not fog lights and emit stuff all light "beam"
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18-04-2012, 12:33 PM | #12 | ||
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Hi All,
Well i have just finished my Day Lights and i wired them to the Parkers.
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18-04-2012, 12:37 PM | #13 | |||
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I am very confident that the law in NSW/Canberra and Queensland are pretty much the same as the Victorian law, I could have a look but I have to get back to work -
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18-04-2012, 12:43 PM | #14 | |||
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Its not like they will pull over a Merc driver for having their DRL's on (which I was under the impression they are automated not by switch) because there is no fog. If they want to crack down on anything they can start with the ugly blue, green, red etc parkers that people use..and those stupid washer jets.
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18-04-2012, 12:51 PM | #15 | |||
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Totally different. If you look at any new European car they have them fitted, and most US based cars now... E.g. Jeep Grand Cherokee, Mercedes C250, HSV Clubsports etc. Under the EU standard (which is what ADR will follow) they have to be a certain distance apart (I think 700 mm) atleast... Which would make the ones above illegal.
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18-04-2012, 01:32 PM | #17 | ||
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But then you have an ugly button/switch somewhere, IMO linking it to the parkers is good. But be sure to wire it so that when the headlights come on the DRL's come off because AFAIK parkers stay on when the main headlights are on..I dont why but they do on my AU.
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IE: it's a car with one headlight coming and not a bike.
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18-04-2012, 01:53 PM | #19 | ||
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18-04-2012, 01:54 PM | #20 | ||
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DRL's are legal in NSW
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I think you will find that the State Authorities will see them (DRL's) as all the same - fog lights
Plus the OP is adding them to an older car so all your arguments about Mecedes', HSV's, etc is totally irrelevant - sorry, and since when were HSV's 'imported'
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18-04-2012, 02:12 PM | #23 | ||
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DRLs are a european safety feature and must comply with the ADRs.
The reason for them is to increase visibility in low light conditions found there which are not all that common in Australia away from the alpine areas and some parts of Victoria and Tasmania. Looking awsum, fully sic and uber cool are not valid reasons for DRLs and will not stand up in court if they are not implemented or operated correctly within the law. |
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They are not classed as foglamps... Totally different. Do you know what DRL stands for? Day Time Running Light. Foglights are illegal unless there is fog or wet weather lowering visibility. You can legally retrofit them to an older car, see the post above outlining the correct dimensions.
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18-04-2012, 02:41 PM | #27 | ||
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God some people can get their knickers in a twist about nothing.
They are not dangerous like cut springs or something like that, they are little LED's that enhance visibility...its just so happens they draw less power than a bulb, last longer and are brighter in day time conditions...they are useless at night and are way to bright ("sparkly" bright), so anyone running around after dark with them on are asking for trouble. Have you guys not seen some of the large trucks getting about with them all over the front like a christmas tree? There are bigger issues with our roads and the cars on them than some DRL's/LED's whatever.
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18-04-2012, 03:40 PM | #29 | |||
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Just saying, if they are incorrectly fitted then they aren't legal, and could potentially dazel or cause an accident. The biggest issue is if they are too close together they can make the vehicle look further away then it really is, in poor lighting. I have them fitted in the OEM foglight position on my GT, and they comply with the law. I have had countless people ask me about where I got them, as they look factory.
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18-04-2012, 03:44 PM | #30 | ||
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Im sure some wizard at ADR HQ has worked out some magic that they have to be x mm from this and that.
But like we are all agreeing on, they are DAY time running lights. If you cant work out if its a truck, motorcycle or bus during the day then your got bigger issues than working out the width of a car in its own lane. Ive seen some shocking setups, but none are dazzling etc during the day. When dusk hits etc then there is a grey area but generally they are inoffensive except to the fashion police. While the law might argue with the example above, I fail to see how during the day this car is suddenly a danger to society. Im not arguing with you DASH BTW, I agree with what your saying.
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