Boge shocks - whats the status?

bonk182 · 20-12-2006, 01:50 PM

Hey people,

Its time for me to replace my shocks all around as the ride quality is shizer! i dont expect the fairmont ride quality that i used to have considering SL fronts and SSL rear, with 245/40/18. But i can feel the 'jar' that comes from each tiny pebble i drive over and its finally made me crack.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with boge shocks, and if you can get a true 'shortened' shock (not just xr height like the sensatracs). pedders sports ryders are just way to xpensive ($800 supplied! - PFFFT!) boges are around the $500 mark.

any advice would be much appreciated
James

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b2tf · 20-12-2006, 01:58 PM

KYB are a well priced shock and very good for the money.

bonk182 · 20-12-2006, 02:01 PM

how will they compete against the height of my springs? since i can only get kyb's (live axle) at an 'xr height'?

are you running kybs b2tf? - if so, at what height?

b2tf · 20-12-2006, 02:32 PM

Nah running Koni's here, but I have used KYB's in a previous car. Sounds like they may not be any use to you though if you cant get them in the right size.

**Mechan1k** · 20-12-2006, 08:01 PM

I found the Sportsryders quite a good shock ... very controlling and good on the rough roads as well.

AUIII XR8 MAN · 20-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Save up & pay the extra $$$ because it will be worth it with better handling & ride.

bonk182 · 20-12-2006, 11:26 PM

yeah sounds like the boges dont come in a true short either. might just have to do that... ryders you reckon?

**FTE217** · 21-12-2006, 10:32 AM

The Pedder gear is the next option after the monroe/gabriel/boge/kyb's.
Be it some of the brands above do nothing for lowered applications compared to Pedders.
Next best Koni/Bilstein.

mattp · 21-12-2006, 11:29 AM

The Boges do come in a shortened shock, and they are excellent. I have them in my AU Fairmont on King Lows, going to Superlows in early February. Ride quality in mine with Lows is excellent.

martymonsta · 21-12-2006, 10:47 PM

i have boge shocks in the front of mine and have no complaints when i asked about them about 3 years and had the option of long or short throw and stuck with the long cause i only dropped 35mm with a progressive rate spring on the front and wilkinsons said it was not nesesery but comfort was important cause it is a family car and we do a few k's anyway have fun

martymonsta · 21-12-2006, 10:59 PM

just to add if pedders are so good why did there rally car have bilsteins????????????

**FTE217** · 21-12-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by martymonsta

just to add if pedders are so good why did there rally car have bilsteins????????????

does any race car run the brand the car is ? (barring Ferrari's etc) let alone a small aftermarket brand

martymonsta · 21-12-2006, 11:53 PM

i just thought it was funny, i was watching fox sport last year and the black mitsy evo all decked out in pedders stickers flying round making people think there shockies were good enough for rally use comes into the service bay and they rip off the wheels and they took a close up of the rotors and you could clearly see the belstein sticker you think they would run it with the stickers off.
from working in the game i've heard that pedders were just monroes painted red but everyone deserves a choice

Lumpen Proletariat · 22-12-2006, 12:17 AM

We ordered a set of ED Sprint spec springs (some where between low and superlow) to replace the chopped King's Dad's Sprint had in it. The Springs were from Whiteline and they recommend Boge shocks to match. We were prepared to pay the extra for Koni's, Bilstein or the like, as Whiteline stock them but unless the car was either driven at 10/10s on the road all the time, or saw regular track work, they said the Boge were more than adequate and they are!

As both the Springs and shocks were done at once, the improvement can't be put down to 'just' the shocks but it was immense. The abberations that you used to Bang!Crash!Wallop! through the original Monroe's are much smoother and the car is much comfortabler to ride in but is still sharp as a pin in handling.

Boge mightn't be the biggest name in Australia but it IS a big European brand. they're OEM in many Upmarket Merc and BMW and are owned/manufactured by SACHS. Who are huge, especially amongst Porsche owners and the like!

Lumpy

crossingover · 22-12-2006, 12:51 AM

i just fitted boges short shock on my au there 25 mm shorter than standard shock and i am more than happy with the ride considering ive got 19 inch wheels is alot better than munroes.I bought mine from gt suspension in fleminton for $235 for front pair and the price was excellent.Whent it comes down to pedders well guys there shocks are absoloute crap they are all discontinued monroe stock that have been repainted and pedders stickers fitted to them,I am talking from experience as my brotherinlaw owned a franchise with the snakes and they screwed him hard.If pedders are as good as they say NO BULL why is it that they dont use there own shocks or coilovers on their rally cars ??

blackers10 · 22-12-2006, 03:18 AM

do you have a part number for them crossingover? as im going to be chasing some short shocks for my fairlane (same as falcon with IRS) as i have SL king springs and my shocks are buggered

bonk182 · 22-12-2006, 08:10 AM

Thanks so very much to every one for their input. Going boge shocks will save me a bit of coin. this is what steve from wholesale suspension quoted me...

"Front struts in Boge brand BO28-A80-A $165.00EA
Rear shocks in Boge brand BO28-A85-A @ $85.00"
supplied, plus post ofcourse.

im assuming the price is per pair so thats $250 for new shocks - sounds too good to be true?...(quoted munroes at 500ish supplied, and pedders at 770 supplied)

**FTE217** · 22-12-2006, 09:07 AM

Good choice bonk182. Let us know how they go when fitted.
As Lumpen mentions they are a large European company and a good product. Once only made in Germany but alas like all products made in many other countrys now due to labour costs.

Some of you guys are told some BS about the origins of product etc
Firstly most Name brands ie monroe,gabriel,kyb,boge etc are global manufacturer's with facilities in many countries building OE and Aftermarket products.
Secondly many of them make OTHER brands for Specialist companys who can provide them volume and margin as the OE companys screw them to the hilt.
So for crossingover ref Pedder passenger car product is MADE for them at THEIR specs and Gabriel make their 4wd products at THEIR specs.
Figure it out, so many brands but not so many Factories.
As for your brother inlaw's issues that's none of our business and as always there's 2 sides of the the storey I'm sure.

This other BS about said company not running their product on their rally car, cheez I'm ****ed why doesn't Ford or Holden run their products in Supercars !
I think some of you need to realise there's marketing and product "horse's for course's"

Sorry for long post and I'd like to make clear that I'm in the Suspension business for the last 20yrs and have worked with many of these brands and to this day visit o/s factories and attend many Industry shows.

JC · 22-12-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bonk182

Thanks so very much to every one for their input. Going boge shocks will save me a bit of coin. this is what steve from wholesale suspension quoted me...

"Front struts in Boge brand BO28-A80-A $165.00EA
Rear shocks in Boge brand BO28-A85-A @ $85.00"
supplied, plus post ofcourse.

im assuming the price is per pair so thats $250 for new shocks - sounds too good to be true?...(quoted munroes at 500ish supplied, and pedders at 770 supplied)

$165 EA means that, $165 each, so that's $330 a pair for thr front. The rear should be for the pair though.

bonk182 · 23-12-2006, 02:02 AM

ahhh yes, thanks JC - i forgot that struts come each and rears come paired. my mistake

still a bargain though!

Abacus · 23-12-2006, 02:07 AM

I'm finding the new Munroe GTs I stuck on recently are a bit skittish over road irregularities and corrugations. Would the Boges have been a better bet?

martymonsta · 23-12-2006, 05:26 PM

yes for sure the monroe gt's have no comfort in them at all but its good if you want a go kart like ride

Free347 · 27-12-2006, 11:15 PM

I've tried all the rest a few times now - will stick with Boges, love 'em!

Abacus · 27-12-2006, 11:23 PM

So do Boges kind of fill the mid-ground between Munroe and Koni/Bilstein then??

Free347 · 28-12-2006, 11:01 AM

They're at least up on the same shelf as Bilsteins etc in my opinion. If I were offered any set I'd pick Boges over the others now.

Abacus · 28-12-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Free347

They're at least up on the same shelf as Bilsteins etc in my opinion. If I were offered any set I'd pick Boges over the others now.

I've got a feeling Bluedriver might have a different opinion on that...