New Wolf ECU to be released

StealthAu · 25-08-2007, 11:22 AM

Just reading through the lattest Street Machines Ford mag, and they have a write up on the Wolf V500. In it, it says there will be one released which will be a dedicated ford unit, which will be a dirrect replacement for the factory ECU. It will be able to control the BTR and all, thoght this would be of interest to all the people who seem to be interested in going down the fourced induction path.

T3man · 25-08-2007, 12:20 PM

Bring it on ...

mickyyyy · 25-08-2007, 03:47 PM

Im not a fan of wolf, but if anyone where to make a plug in unit it should be MOTEC and AUTRONIC as they are the top of the line and if you where you change factory with anything other than the mentioned above you would be going backwards

redef · 25-08-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Im not a fan of wolf, but if anyone where to make a plug in unit it should be MOTEC and AUTRONIC as they are the top of the line and if you where you change factory with anything other than the mentioned above you would be going backwards

thats spot on you get what you pay for.

StealthAu · 27-08-2007, 07:30 AM

Sorry but thats pure stupidity. Jump on there web site and check the specs of the v500.

Sledgehammer · 27-08-2007, 10:11 AM

Theirs alot of systems around, my opinion is that its more dependent upon the tuner of the system rather than the system....

FGII-XR6 · 27-08-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Im not a fan of wolf, but if anyone where to make a plug in unit it should be MOTEC and AUTRONIC as they are the top of the line and if you where you change factory with anything other than the mentioned above you would be going backwards

why write it off without even checking it out. it's hard enought to get specialised stuff like this FFS without rubbishing things without trying it.

StealthAu · 27-08-2007, 11:21 AM

Some of the key features of this model -
2048 map points
the ability to store 2 maps which can be switched between at the push of a button
Turbo Boost/Wastegate Control
Turbo Timer support
15 to 27 Auxiliary Output pins available as extra outputs (unused Injector and Ignition pins can be used)
8 Smart, Full sequential Injector outputs
8 Full sequential Ignition outputs
Fuel Pump
Thermo Fan
Idle Speed Control
Tacho Output
Turbo Timer
Internal MAP sensor reads boost pressures up to 30psi

And this a step backwards from the factory ECU?

FGII-XR6 · 27-08-2007, 11:56 AM

will it control twin VCT ? might be an option for BA conversion

bertis · 23-09-2007, 10:51 PM

any news on when this ecu will be released and price??

mickyyyy · 23-09-2007, 10:55 PM

once you all are more educated in aftermarket ECU's then you will understand why Autronic and Motec are the best. The next ECU's i would use would be Haltech EMS and microtech.

private9 · 23-09-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

once you all are more educated in aftermarket ECU's then you will understand why Autronic and Motec are the best. The next ECU's i would use would be Haltech EMS and microtech.

For those of us who aren't as educated in aftermarket ecu's as you obviously are, would you mind expanding on above? Naturally Motec and Autronic are the best, but why do you totally dismiss the Wolf?

FGII-XR6 · 23-09-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

once you all are more educated in aftermarket ECU's then you will understand why Autronic and Motec are the best. The next ECU's i would use would be Haltech EMS and microtech.

sorry to be rude here but what a stupid statement! this is a new unit and as such the only knowledge you have about is pre conceived notions. this company are doing something that will make performance mods more managable in the AU and we get the likes of you putting on it before it is even released no wonder companies are reluctant to develop new technology with "experts " ready to shoot it down before it rolls off the line. some of us have made positive statements about this venture and we are called uneducated! how can you be educated or un educated when the item is yet to be released??? i guess there will always be people around that will offer opinion on something they know nothing about then there are the more inteligent people who will evaluate the actual item on it's merits

V3RSAC3 · 24-09-2007, 01:55 AM

i'll be up for giving it a go ... would u still wanna drag me dan??? :P

mickyyyy · 24-09-2007, 05:23 PM

Ive said some things in this thread which will give you some info of what ppl dont know about ecu's

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...=1#post1732659

FGII-XR6 · 24-09-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Ive said some things in this thread which will give you some info of what ppl dont know about ecu's

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...=1#post1732659

I see nothing in there about the subject of this thread . that maybe because they are not yet in production and you know nothing about them then again nobody else does either as they are not on the market. see the point I am making here they are unknown at this stage so to make negative comments about the new technology on the basis of experience with the old unit is not logical. thats like saying i had an EA falcon that had trouble with the throtle body injection so i don't recomend you get any injected falcon as thay may be a problem. real clever eh an AU injection is totally different but evolved from earlier systems but it is a far better system than the EA unit. give this thing a chance to prove it self before you write it off

mik · 24-09-2007, 08:58 PM

anything that could cause you to grenade an engine ie after market ecu i would be very careful about getting one with the runs on the board so to speak, my brothers mate had an aftermarket ecu that had dodgey software caused him no end of headaches and finacial pain, im with mickyyyy on this one.

FGII-XR6 · 24-09-2007, 09:13 PM

any equipment is only as good as the guy who sets it up a turbo can grenade an engine real quick too if not installed properly but what mickyyyy is saying is that because he didn't like the old wolf ECU they must all be bad with thinking like that we would all still be living in caves. i can remember when made in japan meant cheap and crappy like made in taiwan is now but the improved things and now made in japan is generally high quality. my point is that things can and do improve with time effort and investment. but it needs people to support development for this to happen so please don't stifle development by being closed minded evaluate then decide don't make mindeless uninformed decisions

mik · 24-09-2007, 09:27 PM

not closed minded or uninformed at all just carefull.

mickyyyy · 24-09-2007, 09:44 PM

Ive been looking ecu's for about 6months now and have spoken to heaps of tuners and have spent alot of time with some in regards to ecu's.

Plain and simple Autronic and Motec are the best and every other ecu copy what they do but dont do it as good. Motec are better in the sence that they work very closly with big drag and track and offroad cars and also look at facotry ecu's and try and build them into their units becuase hands down factory ecu is the best.

FGII-XR6 · 24-09-2007, 09:45 PM

i wasn't saying you were i was saying mickyyyy was he is writing this off when it hasn't been released yet and that is closed minded and uninformed attitudes like his stifle development. being careful is a good thing and I hope with a careful approach you find what suits you . just be aware there are "experts" out there that don't know as much as they think they do. opinions are fine but results are what really counts

blu falc · 25-09-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Ive been looking ecu's for about 6months now and have spoken to heaps of tuners and have spent alot of time with some in regards to ecu's.

Plain and simple Autronic and Motec are the best and every other ecu copy what they do but dont do it as good. Motec are better in the sence that they work very closly with big drag and track and offroad cars and also look at facotry ecu's and try and build them into their units becuase hands down factory ecu is the best.

Meanwhile ALL the other EMS makers are randomly putting components together hoping that it will make an ECU that will run the car

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mickyyyy · 25-09-2007, 12:26 PM

There not ramdomly putting them together im just saying that there is so much more than just fuel and ignition and yes cheaper ecu's do the job as i have considered either EMS 8860 or microtech. But from there research and time spent and spoken to i personally think best tuners.

If you want a ecu to run the car and not really conserned of all the nice little things an ecu does then go microtech but if you do then factory ecu or Autronic or Motec. I could go on for hours talking about ecu's and what they do other than ignition and fuel. I'll through some at you all.

A factory ecu takes samples from the sensors and speed sensor and ecu datalogs and say well we have been doing a consistent speed so i can bring back to the tune and make it leaner so you get better fuel econemy

My steering wheel is fully hooked and it taking out power and the idel is dropping the facotry ecu knows that and corrects itself so it wont stall

I turned on the air con and its taking out power and idel has droppped so the ecu correct's itself.

Alot of new cars have this when u let ur foot of the brake the ecu knows by the speed sensor so what it does is open the tb a tad just to keep the car rolling at the speed.

All the above mentioned things are what factory ecu's do and the only aftermarket ecu's that do that are Autronic and Motec and this is why i perosnlly think spending the extra money to go for a better ecu.

EG EMS 8860 $1700.00 and extra $500 get you a Autronic SM4 or Motec M48
Haltech E11v2 $2200.00 for the same money or a couple hundred extra depending where you buy it from you get a Autronic SM4 or Motec M48

sly · 25-09-2007, 03:48 PM

None of these are legal in NSW anyway so why bother?

mickyyyy · 25-09-2007, 05:13 PM

Yes they are if there closed loop

StealthAu · 25-09-2007, 05:22 PM

Mickyyyy jump on wolfs website and check the specs of the V500, this is the emc that there will be a falcon specific version of. Some of there older models were lacking inn some features, which makes it easy to bag them without having a look.

F6 R-Spec · 25-09-2007, 05:52 PM

Nothing wrong with the wolf imo , the version 4 powers my charged escort mk2 not a prob.
The ver 5 even better ! self learn is for tunners you have no idea!

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A ver 4 has powered a skyline r33 gtst non strocked 2.5 litre ,c16 fuel ,no nos at 487 rear kw to an Ausie record at last Melbourne auto sallon tuned by EAS (Equiped Automotive services 9330 2001 vic & george ) of Melbourne tullamarine
The proof is in the pudding!

sly · 25-09-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Yes they are if there closed loop

General-purpose, ie programmable, computers are banned under the Clean Air Act 2000 from being used as ECU's. I asked about putting one in my car some time ago & was told by the workshop they would not put one in a road-registered car. They told me if I was caught with one it would costy me $10k or $20k, and it would also cost them $50k. I've also read a lot of TurboTaxi's posts as I'm interested in doing something similar, he said that no engineer he spoke to would touch a car with an aftermarket ECU.

So if you want to prove one ECU better than another, take it to the strip, put up and shut up.